I'm glad all the nuclear experts from around the world are gathered here in this forum. I agree that it would be a good move to let 3rd party officials check on the water before releasing. As mentioned in earlier discussions, La Hague or Sellafield do this on a routine basis with sometimes even more bequerel levels than at Fukushima. As this article from German public TV states: It is "Dangerous especially for the image". Here is the article via Google translate:
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Once the taifun arrived there will be different and more severe problems than this useless discussion about hiragana usage. Until then the warning did its job, everybody now knows about the danger.
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Just out of curiosity: How did they find him 17 days later?
Is "groped" really what is called according to law ?
No, and I guarantee it's not the word the police used; remember, this is Japan. Everything here is Japanese. And news articles on this site are notorious for being translated with the flavor of the translator.
I didn't stumble over the police report but in Japanese news I read 触る which pretty much translates as groping, but the actual accusation, also mentioned in the news is 強制わいせつ致傷, which basically means sexual assault and injury. Hm, actually the JT article states that as well.
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So many Japanese posters here coming up with illogical conclusions. Yet the same people go on vacation when JT reports that Japan failed to detect recent NK missiles on multiple occasions.
How can you be so sure Japan didn't really detect the NK missiles? Maybe they did and tried to keep it a secret, now with SK admitting asking for Japanese data there's proof, that JP can detect - and the data is even sensitive.
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@IloveCoffe (and some others...)
Wrong, Liancourt Rocks are disputed even acknowledged by Korea as agreed on the 1965 treaty...oh wait...
Senkaku Islands are disputed also acknowledged by Japan.
Yet, both countries SK and China avoid calling the ICJ, I wonder why.
Wouldn't it be great if SK as well as China agreed on an ICJ ruling? Japan already suggested that - multiple times.
Until sanity returns back into SK politics, we must live with that. Moon is a typical politician trying to move the attention away from his failing politics and back to nationalism. All failing leaders do that. Unfortunately.
To my knowledge, Japan already acknowledged to follow any ICJ ruling. Then these matters would be over and settled - maybe also what some countries don't like to happen. Distracting from domestic politics would become more difficult for them.
And imagine, also the double or tripple Japan bashing account holders since a couple of weeks here would not be useful anymore.
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In my opinion it seems ridiculous at all that it is necessary to additionally confirm the fact that there is no radioactive food being served. Well done, South Korea. Meanwhile the food available in Japan to me seems as one of the safest available. Just imagine some Fukushima tracing radioactivity was found during the last couple of years by any NGO in Japanese Food, what the uproar would've been. No, Japan will not let this happen, therefore any doubts about Olympic food being radioactive is just ridiculous and such accusations follow a different plan.
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The "problem" is quite easy to explain: SK borders NK and has additionally questionable bases in the Sea of Japan, therefore detecting a rocket launch in NK and to follow its path afterwards is comparatively easy. The problem comes with intercepting the non predictable course and here SK also "apparently" was not successful! Japan faces the additional hurdle not being able to detect a launch directly simply from its distance and not usable own land in the Sea of Japan. Low altitudes combined with irregular trajectories are difficult if not impossible to foresee. So GSOMIA can give radar information from SK to JP but if that doesn't help to defend, then what's the use? Some people apparently cannot understand the difference of detecting and tracking&forecast!
To come back to the political issue here, if JP "begged" SK to have the radar information also in the future, it would mean that SK can get through with any future breach of international binding contracts making them useless and also can broadcast to the world how right they are with everything in bashing Japan. So far SK could manage to persuade other countries or news agencies that the bilateral problems where both somehow SK's and JP's fault while putting the first move to JP although the connoisseur of facts know better. So of course SK has to somehow proudly shout out they could "detect" the missiles. Did they admit of being able to - or rather not being able to also track and forcast the course then? No, it's the same when SK papers jubilated that they won most of the WTO cases vs JP but failed to admit or even mention, that in the end the basic ruling was against them.
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The WTO threw out 12 of 13 claims made by Japan.
Lol, not even the biased Korean newspapers could count up that much. Also they didn't go into detail. Fact is that the anti dumping tarrifs in general are wrong, the other side points where just accessory. Forgt about those side points, but what do I talk, read the report: https://www.wto.org/english/news_e/news19_e/504abr_e.htm (I recommend the full version).
The neighbors have been embroiled in a tit-for-tat trade war
Since this decision is on a case that started in 2015 (by SK) and has nothing really to do with the current development between those two countries, I wouldn't call that a tit-for-tat behavior, it's rather as a lot of tats from SK.
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I mean you should be fronting the reporters and concerned representatives from each country rather than sharing your gems of knowledge just here on JT..
Don't worry, I already did so and some newspapers took down the scare/blame monger article or rewrote it so it fits the actual situation especially in comparison to other disposals. I actually received some thank yous from editorial offices, especially the smaller ones which usually just take over articles from Reuters&Co - although some also pointed out they'd rather have headlines and readers and didn't change the one sided information. So don't worry, I'll do my best despite the fact it is difficult especially if you have certain countries against it which rather do anything to drag on the blame game.
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If the water is cleaned from radioactive particles, only tritium will be released. Like it is done by any other nuclear power plant around the world - of which some release more Bequerel than now planned at Fukushima. The undertaking is basically nothing but an image problem which of course will be exploit by some countries (for whose we all know will do enhance the blame game).
Here is a neutral fact report about it: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww1.wdr.de%2Fwissen%2Ftechnik%2Ffukushima-radioaktives-wasser-meer-100.html
The other famous video https://youtu.be/IyrO1UjfJX0?t=99 from enviromental activists is excessively exaggerated. It only shows surface water, negelcting 3D and the numbers are so low it could not be even detected. It just colors the ocean on a scale like peeing in the water. They should do this with other nuclear power plants around the world, all oceans would be deeply red in a matter of seconds.
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You'll notice they don't dare do this with the Russian ones.
The answer is easy: The Northern Territories (those Russian ones) are currently administered and occupied by Russia. Doing the same there would be considered an attack. The Senkaku isles are administered by Japan, therefore it is simply an act of act of guard or defense.
On the other hand, why not agree on an ICJ ruling? Japan proposed this on all its disputed isles but so far neither opponent agreed or called on it.
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Whale hunting in general is a double-edged sword. As a leading industrial nation, I would like to see Japan to stop the whale hunting. It draws a bad light and apparently has not much of a use since whale meat is not really popular.
Then on the other hand there is always the alibi of tradition. Like Spain has their corrida/bullfights, certain countries use halal/shehitah slaughtering without any anesthesia, other island nations like Iceland or expecially the Faroe Islands also do whale hunting in an unbelievable cruel manner, recently having seen pictures of red colored bays, ripped open bodies with babys coming out and those slaughtered, too.
So it's not only Japan doing this but it's a weak point Japan can easily be blamed upon and as mentioned above as an industrial leader it will be under much strikter observation and blame than the other countries. In my opinion it is not the big ships seen here in this article that draw big attention, it's the beach slaughtering (of dolphins) which became famous by the blaming activists movie The Cove.
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Like I stated in other posts, proof after proof that SK has no interest in fostering Korean-Japanese relationship, provoking only. Just sad, I hope SK will get a new, better and reliable government.
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Trade controls as an issue are in a "completely different dimension" from military intelligence, Seko said, adding that he "can't at all understand why South Korea would connect the two."
Simple, South Korea only plays "adult" but is still a stubborn, unexperienced child. Incapable of learning apparently, too. It will be interesting to see, how the situation shows up on other countries' news. I suppose first there will be the Korean version published with the help of its global "truth" network. Then Japan will try to explain in a sophisticated matter with facts, which will not be headlined any more since they don't carry any aggression or are in any way outrageous. So the Japan-is-bad bashing from Korea will stay in people's heads in the end, mission accomplished like many times before. Japan needs a public relation office that also can handle social media.
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Concering the differnce to WWII memorials in e.g. Poland, that was a country badly beaten so putting up those memorials is just fine but how if it was for Poland to make and sponsor memorials to other countries not for the fact of memorizing but for putting Germany in a bad light. This is how the comfort women statues are used and as we recently (almost) all learned, there is no interest in solving that issue since the statues have such a wonderful, not want to give up, blaming effect.
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The maneuver is clearly, not just this time but every time, aimed against Japan. It's also clear that the Liancourt Rocks have been taken by South Korea by force. A fact is also that South Korea refuses to settle this issue, which is no wonder since it is obvious they'd lose at the ICJ. Therefore South Korea will never be able to have a sophisticated talk or relation with Japan.
This also leads to South Korean efforts to scatter their crooked views and oppinion around the world. I have more than once read in newspapers of different countries about the "East Sea, also known as the Sea of Japan" or even worse just the "East Sea" or "Dokdo". South Korea tries to bring those islets and the "Sea between Korea and Japan" into the news as much as possible by releasing news only using their names.
Koreans deserve a better government. Just wonder, if they will grow up to do so. Japan needs a better public relation, presenting the facts. I think they need to hire some social media experts focusing on this.
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Chip Star, if China is enemy of freedom and democracy, then SK and Japan are not freedom and democratic nations.
If I was refused to live in Japan and had to choose between Mainland China and South Korea, heck, the choice is clear. To speak it out: South Korea of course, despite the fact of their current childish government.
On topic: Useless talks. The comments I read from the SK delegation is nothing but "we might make it out of this mess we created without being hurt too much and not to admit anything to Japan, let's play the Fukushima card a bit stronger to distract the world a bit more".
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I hope that at least one country has the guts to tell South Korea directly to finally stop that nonsense they have going on for years. They really need to be made aware of the crap they stage and go for the future. But apparently all are afraid they'd be branded as history forger by the worldwide Korean network of truth.
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Seems like you and other posters here are trying to downplay incidents yet again.
I strongly oppose your accusation of downplaying the accident. I warned and continue to warn about the accident and that Japan was really lucky in an unlucky event: If it hadn't been for the strong wind blowing strong and straight onto the ocean during the explosions, a much wieder land area woul've been contaminated by radioactive fallout material making nearly half of Japan uninhabitable. Until today I miss this important part being told to the public officially. But the topic here is something else!
Even TEPCO admitted that it failed to remove dangerous radioactive contaminants stored in the tanks.
The article describes and Tepco admitting the problem of not thoroughly cleaning the water yet (because of probably five solutions still being discussed). You stop quoting afterwards. Here's the rest:
"Tepco said the problems occurred because absorbent materials in the equipment had not been changed frequently enough. The utility has promised to re-purify the water if the government decides that releasing it into the ocean is the best solution."
So I expect Tepco to actually do exactly that, re-purify it and then we would have the situation I explained above. They are being watched by the world and the press and believe me there will be numerous NGOs out in the Pacific to get water samples by the time of releasing water to make sure about the promises.
Japan needs to do a good job in informing about the plan including comparison examples, so the Korean attempt to link the event with its politics against Japan will hopefully fail.
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Here is the link for my post above (for any doubters): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww1.wdr.de%2Fwissen%2Ftechnik%2Ffukushima-radioaktives-wasser-meer-100.html
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After shortly reading into this matter I realize, there are many wrong information also spread in the comments here. That famous simulation video above is nothing more than how an indicator is being diluted in the Pacific. It does not carry any information on the current subject except the dilution in the ocean currents (with btw. does not consider any neccessary 3D projection, it's surface and even there has very tiny numbers. Anybody recognized the scale?)
So, what is to be relased? Tritium! Read it up, it is nothing compared to other material from a nuclear power plant. In fact, the planned amount to be released is less(!) than any other average nuclear power plant releases! Every year(!) Sellafield in the UK or La Hague in France release similar amounts of Tritium, sometimes even with a higher Becquerel amount than now planned at Fukushima! "The main problem is only the image problem." Oh, this information btw. is also from Germany (and backed by many scientists) from an interview with Christian Küppers from the Eco-Institute at Darmstadt.
The fact, that South Korea summend the Japanese diplomats show clearly again, that this matter is not environmentally based, it's simple Japan bashing! If they were concerned, they would talk in a sophisticated manner and not threaten the public raging. The ambition is obvious.
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Just a coincidence is it? - after Japan's occupation China broke into two, Korea broke into two and Vietnam broke into two. Malaysia suffered a long insurgency. No connection at all?
You mean those countries should've been continued to be occupied by Japan? They were not capable of taking care of themselves? What are you trying to say with your twisted examples?
What the article shows is basically what I alway suspected, also in my comments: Children are being used to carry on a certain basic hatred against Japan during the education life to serve public oppinion influence when neccessary for the current leaders. Now when those people actually go into business and start working, they fastly learn how important and nice Japan is. Therefore I repeat myself when saying I feel pity for the young SK generation to go through this instead of enjoying life to the future.
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I urge the Japanese government to issue some kind of guidline or textbook to correct some South Korean claims and demands, also putting a light in that history of developments. There are many places in the world where SK narrow perpectives are sowed and taken for an exclusive truth. Really catastrophic are those ugly Comfort Women statues, where communities are lied to around the world that they are just a simple historic memorials. Then when JP tries to inform about the true background some learn and don't allow the statue, but some prefer to keep acting blind causing high tensions around Koreans and Japanese even abroad. It's a shame, shame on SK for being so perfidious. JP needs to be more informative in an active way I think - otherwise, thanks to SK brilliant furtiveness, JP will continue to face fake feelings in the world which will be hard to correct again.
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To my humble opinion, there is no need for any Hormuz coalition at all. First of all it was Trump who started the mess by breaking a fine working contract. Then since things didn't develop as expected, some strange things happened in that area that could've blaimed Iran, but of which you strangely don't hear any more. Nothing. Why, something didn't work out or what? Then out of the blue, UK seized an Iranian tanker off the coast of Gibraltar apparently on request of the US blaming something like failed to comply to EU sanctions. Ahm, EU sanctions valid between Iran and Syria? It was only after this when suddenly a UK tanker got seized by Iran for some alleged similar reason. You can call this tit for tat or just look at the grounds given - then compare. Still, why would a Hormuz coalition be necessary now? To see which countries are on which side? Is doubt still a matter in deciding with common sense if joining or not? Does anybody think Iran would do this because it likes to act like this? Why was everything smooth until Trump tore apart the contract Obama did? According to the leaked UK-Ambassador dispatches it was because Obama did the deal. Wow, real smart. Now of course I could be wrong with all that story but to me I would like Japan to stay out of this. SK already said they joined, anyway, they need some kissing up to do. Japan could send out some support ships to show its bond to the US, but thats it. The constitution would anyway not allow much more.
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Point out clearly what are those "implications" and how they are relevant to the decision of South Korea’s Supreme Court that no government has right to stop an individual victim seeking a justice.
No need for denying a claim (although this would be the correct way of handling such demands in this case), but the ruling then cannot go against Japanese companies and selling off their assets, it must go directly against the SK government which here would be the correct institution to address these claims to according to the 1965 binding treaty.
And about the WTO, if SK actually wants to run against a wall again, fine. How does editing a national "white list", which is not connected to WTO rules be ruled about by the WTO. Then any country in the world could claim to be on that list. Simple logic denies any WTO apeal in the first place. It might work, if a SK court decided about it.
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Good morning, oh what a thrill gave me this article with its comments to wake up. To me I just feel confirmed that Moon equals lunatic in the truest sense of words.
One further note on that last comment above mine from Samit: Yes, the press freedom index of Japan dramatically fell after implementation of the State Secrecy Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Secrecy_Law and Fukushima, basically since Abe returned. Japan used to rank far ahead of South Korea. In 2010 for example, Japan was even ranked 11th in the world. Then it started dropping and currently South Korea is further up, unfortunately not really got that much better compared to the rankings before but since other countries lost, it gave it a push upwards. So since it didn't really get much better the rage and win against former President Park Geun-hye paid off there. Nevertheless, SK also faces state secrecy problems and defamation risks. So if you read the comment on the countries in the PFI JP and SK are not really far appart. otherwise you would not be able to read unbiased articles like this one here and allowing comments to flood in.
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I love that JT posters disagreed with this comment, which is 100% fact, based on sales figures as linked, choosing to agree with the other poster whose guess was way off (arguing Toyota must have sold 11 instead of usual 16 cars in a month).
I don't think they disagree on your numbers, they just voted you down for not recognizing the percentage game. If someone mentioned a handful of cars sold (which we all know is not fact) it just means that in a country with 50 Mio. + inhabitants, the number is ridiculously low anyway (which the actual number is) compared to the full market.
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I don't really see news here. The Anti-Japanese indoctrination in SK just needed some kind of trigger, which Moon makes sure is being pulled continuously now since his plans didn't work out, to boycott any type of Japanese product. So it's completely natural under those circumstances that sales dropped for Japanese made products. But one must always consider the percentage and here we see that it only affects Japanese companies very little if at all. The real loser will be the young generation of Koreans growing up in indoctrinated hate by demagogues. This is what actually makes me sad.
In the meantime Korean companies also continue to advertise their view; recently came across a commercial aired in Europe of Hyundai. It went something like: "You can only understand things if you know the past. We at Hyundai build cars, before we built harbors - with our own steel, and before we rebuilt our country and now we build this..." So very sneaky - like always.
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Wow, Moon really is an incabable and incompetent -beeep-. Riling up his people against a friendly nation that took many punches from SK during the decades keeping silent, apparently just for re-election. And what can the opposition do? If they critizice Moon they'd be branded as Anti-Korean. Terrible terrible leader and events in a once thought to be developed country. Unfortunately (or maybe lucky) for them, the US won't act as a mediator. The biggest price to pay will be the young generation, that is being indoctrinated to hate Japan although all the recent exchange programs taught them differently. Maybe that became more of a danger to SK, that the young generation finally learned about the good things Japanese and not just listen to right wingers bad stories. I sincerely hope someone will put some senses to that peninsula politicians, common sense is urgently wanted.
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