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Posted in: Japan reports 132,071 new coronavirus cases; record high 503 deaths See in context

Roy,

you are right, the entire prefecture of Aichi is struggling but you still cannot claim the Japanese healthcare system is on the verge of collapse. As we saw last year, Hokkaido and Okinawa were near 100% capacity while other areas of Japan went relatively

Again, we have seen this exact situation before, what's the point of downplaying it? To make us feel better? We are adults, aren't we? We have object permanence, problems don't go away if we close our eyes.

I am not downplaying anything. I simply stated your numbers in your original post were incorrect and did not agree with your assertion of being on the verge of collapse.

The facts speak for themselves.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/special/coronavirus/hospital/

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/10900000/001037520.pdf

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Posted in: Japan reports 132,071 new coronavirus cases; record high 503 deaths See in context

My previous post was mangled.

In an interview with Tokai TV, Dr. Kobayashi, head of the Sakura General Hospital in the town of Oguchi, Aichi Prefecture, stated that the official prefectural hospital bed occupancy rate of 70 percent did not reflect the true situation. “We’re actually at 95 percent or more,” he said. “No mistake about it. We’re on the eve of collapse. If this wave continues for much longer, or if another wave strikes before this one recedes, we’re in a state where collapse is going to be imminent. I can say that with certainty.”

One small hospital in one prefecture cannot be used to extrapolate to the entire country.

I’m sure that hospital is struggling but the country overall is not.

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Posted in: Japan reports 132,071 new coronavirus cases; record high 503 deaths See in context

Roy

As for the "hardly on the brink of collapsing":

In an interview with Tokai TV, Dr. Kobayashi, head of the Sakura General Hospital in the town of Oguchi, Aichi Prefecture, stated that the official prefectural hospital bed occupancy rate of 70 percent did not reflect the true situation. “We’re actually at 95 percent or more,” he said. “No mistake about it. We’re on the eve of collapse. If this wave continues for much longer, or if another wave strikes before this one recedes, we’re in a state where collapse is going to be imminent. I can say that with certainty.”

One small hospital in one prefecture cannot be used to draw conclusions for the entire country. That hospital is on the verge of collapse but the rest of the country is not.

Doctors in Fukuoka Prefecture are warning that they can only accept the most severe cases, despite an official bed occupancy rate of just 8.2 percent.

Totally understandable as Covid beds capacity is at 80% but serious case bed capacity is at 8%. They have space for cases as they transition from mild to serious.

I wonder why anyone would think that this now even bigger wave would have less ramifications on hospitals.

I made no such claim.

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Posted in: Japan reports 132,071 new coronavirus cases; record high 503 deaths See in context

Because it's not just about the people who die. Every day, some 15,000 infected need hospitalisation (people who recover at home are officially not counted into that number). Covid patients make for more than 50% of occupied hospital beds, some hospitals report as high as 95%. They are at the brink of collapsing.

Everything in that paragraph is verifiably false. As of 1/11:

29,346 out of 48,808 Covid beds are filled=60% of COVID BEDS. Not all hospital beds.

1,789 out of 5,613 serious case beds are filled=32%. Hardly on the brink of collapsing.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/special/coronavirus/hospital/

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/10900000/001037520.pdf

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Posted in: Japan reports 107,465 new coronavirus cases See in context

Time to sound the panic alarm .!. The healthcare system is once again on the brink of total collapse.!. Hotels are stuffed .!. No not with unnecessary foreign tourists. With Covid patients because the hospitals are already stuffed ….

Steve, Your such a drama queen. Your claims are verifiably false.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/special/coronavirus/

The healthcare system has made many adjustments and is doing fine.

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Posted in: Japan reports 36,605 new coronavirus cases See in context

Yesterday someone posted:

460,000 people still hospitalized either in a hospital or hotel…. Ambulances still getting turned away because the completely broken healthcare system is nowhere near recovery….

Well, according to the jgov there are

8,836 patients in hospital and 4,151 in hotels. I think the healthcare system is just fine.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Kishida's apparent nepotism may shake cabinet further See in context

There’s a bunch of words here ….

Excellent summation of your statement Steven, which is as out of touch as Kishida’s appointment of his son.

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Posted in: Japan reports 39,723 new coronavirus cases See in context

If you interested in the official breakdown of numbers

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

Second column: cases.

Third column: hospitalizations

Eleventh column: ICU cases

Nineteenth column: hotel cases

Thirty first column: home recuperating

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Posted in: Japan reports 39,723 new coronavirus cases See in context

These numbers are supplied and updated daily by the jgov

Steven, it’s not direct from the govt when you read it on the Mainichi website.

This is direct from the govt:

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 39,723 new coronavirus cases See in context

Doesn't he have an official source?

His official source is the Mainichi website. But they use a bad translation for “hospitalizations” as Pickle put so well recently:

Sep. 28  05:05 pm JSTPosted in: Japan reports 49,979 new coronavirus cases  

On a side note: I'm sure the person who translated 入院 治療 等を要する者 as simply 'hospitalized' is adequatelg proficient in both Japanese and English but this was a poor unnuanced translation, owing to the more esoteric and technical language used (afterall we can't expect all translators to be familiar with all terminology in all fields). Sadly this has led some people to believe that there are half a million people undergoing active treatment!

This has been explained by a dozen other posters but he refuses to accept it.

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Posted in: Japan reports 39,723 new coronavirus cases See in context

No Steven,

Actual hospitalizations are under 14,000 and continue to decline.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 49,979 new coronavirus cases See in context

However, there are still 500k people correctly listed as hospitalized rather in a hospital or hotel…. Under the care of Drs and nurses around the clock

Currently:

Truly “hospitalized”: 19,347 out of 48,088 beds.  

ICU: 918 out of 5556 beds.

Hotels(No doctors/nurses here) 7,932out of 68,968 beds.  

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 43,594 new coronavirus cases See in context

Going forward the only meaningful numbers will be hospitalizations and deaths since these will still have to be reported to the govt.

Currently:

Truly “hospitalized”: 19,347 out of 48,088 beds.  

ICU: 918 out of 5556 beds.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 43,587 new coronavirus cases See in context

Yes Steven is wrong again.

The latest “hospitalization” stats dropped from the Jgov this evening.

The nationwide stats thru 9/21 are:

Active cases: 499,170 cases  

Truly “hospitalized”: 19,347 out of 48,088 beds.  

ICU: 918 out of 5556 beds.

Hotels(No doctors/nurses here) 7,932out of 68,968 beds.  

Total corona beds available in hospItal + hotels=123,000

Home recuperation: (No doctor/ nurses here) 402,725.  

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 75,966 new coronavirus cases See in context

The latest “hospitalization” stats dropped from the Jgov this evening.

The nationwide stats thru 9/14 are:

Active cases: 738,000 cases  , down from 1.3 mil

Truly “hospitalized”: 24,407 out of 48,088 beds. 51% occupied. Down from 65%.

ICU: 1109 out of 5556 beds. 20% occupied Down from 24%.

Hotels(No doctors/nurses here) 10,952 out of 68,968 beds. 16% occupied. Down from  30%. 

Total corona beds available in hospItal + hotels=123,000

Home recuperation: (No doctor/ nurses here) 590,000.  Down from 1.06 mil.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 52,918 new coronavirus cases See in context

Commodore,

The info you linked to was for data from a meeting on August 24.

The current bed usage for Okinawa has fallen to 43%.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/special/coronavirus/level/

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Posted in: Japan reports 99,491 new coronavirus cases; 9,240 in Tokyo See in context

The latest “hospitalization” stats dropped from the Jgov this evening.

The nationwide stats thru 9/7 are:

Active cases: 1.3  million cases. Down from 1.74 mil

Truly “hospitalized”: 31,195 out of 48,176 beds. 65% occupied. Down from 77%.

ICU: 1366 out of 5602 beds. 24% occupied. Down from 28.3%

Hotels(No doctors/nurses here) 21,342  out of 70,284 beds. 30% occupied. Down from 40%.

Total corona beds available in hospItal + hotels=123,000

Home recuperation: (No doctor/ nurses here) 1.06 mil. Down from 1.4 mil

All numbers way down from last week. Under 33,000 hospitalized Covid patients in

a sea of 1.5 million hospital beds.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 112,404 new coronavirus cases; 10,640 in Tokyo See in context

Steven,

Not only has the entire healthcare system collapsed, in some parts of the country …. Crematoriums are also overwhelmed with the dead . So overwhelmed that people are having to pay to keep their loved one in cold storage. I won’t single out “what number matters because all of the numbers matter . Actual hospitalizations are still drastically too high :

Hospitalizations 1,386,117

Pushing a false narrative again. The healthcare system has not collapsed and the story you reference is in 1 city in Japan. Why don’t you include the link so people can read and judge for themselves. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20220907/p2a/00m/0na/014000c

Most likely due to Obon holidays and seasonal maintenance.

Actual hospitalizations now under 40,000.

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Posted in: Japan reports 112,198 new coronavirus cases; 9,486 in Tokyo See in context

Steven,

Google “Japan Covid hospitalizations”. The number in the chart is 36,778.

Same as I posted above.

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Posted in: Japan reports 112,198 new coronavirus cases; 9,486 in Tokyo See in context

The nationwide stats thru 8/31 are:

Active cases: 1.74 million cases  , down from 1.98 mil

Truly “hospitalized”: 36,778 out of 47,700 beds.  77% occupied

ICU: 1577 out of 5563 beds. 28.3% occupied Down from 35%

Hotels(No doctors/nurses here) 28,333 out of 70,393 beds.  40% occupied

Total corona beds available in hospItal + hotels=123,000

Home recuperation: 1.4 million (no doctor/ nurses here) Down from 1.58 mil

All numbers down substantially from last week.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 128,728 new coronavirus cases; 12,413 in Tokyo See in context

The latest “hospitalization” stats dropped from the Jgov this evening.

The nationwide stats thru 8/31 are:

Active cases: 1.74 million cases  , down from 1.98 mil

Truly “hospitalized”: 36,778 out of 47,700 beds.  77% occupied. Down from 83%

ICU: 1577 out of 5563 beds. 28.3% occupied Down from 35%

Hotels(No doctors/nurses here) 28,333 out of 70,393 beds.  40% occupied

Total corona beds available in hospItal + hotels=123,000

Home recuperation: 1.4 million (no doctor/ nurses here) Down from 1.58 mil

All numbers down substantially from last week.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 149,906 new coronavirus cases; 14,451 in Tokyo See in context

Nemo,

Tokyo is down 8600 from last Thursday per NHK.

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Posted in: Japan reports 169,800 new coronavirus cases; 15,428 in Tokyo See in context

Design,

No policy changes on reporting have been officially made yet. So the numbers are going down because the numbers of positive cases are going down.

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Posted in: Japan reports 169,800 new coronavirus cases; 15,428 in Tokyo See in context

Click on my user name to view my previous posts about hospitalizations.

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Posted in: Japan reports 169,800 new coronavirus cases; 15,428 in Tokyo See in context

Design-monkey,

Those are active cases not actual hospitalizations.

Serious cases and hospitalizations are way down. Tokyo and Okinawa now below 50%.

Kanagwa now at 75% from 93%

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Posted in: Japan reports 180,138 new coronavirus cases; 17,126 in Tokyo See in context

But since we're talking fractions: According to these numbers, in Tokyo, out of five tested-positive people becomes an inpatient. One out of 30 inpatients goes to the ICU. And one out of three in the ICU doesn't breathe on their own.

The numbers I come up with for Tokyo are 1/50 hospitalized and 1/207 in ICU.

Could be wrong.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 192,413 new coronavirus cases; 18,423 in Tokyo See in context

The latest “hospitalization” stats dropped from the Jgov this evening.

The nationwide stats thru 8/24 are:

Active cases: 1.98 million cases  up from 1.8 mil

Truly “hospitalized”: 38,866 out of 46,777 beds.  83% occupied

ICU: 1772  out of 5573 beds. 31.8% occupied Down from 35%

Hotels(No doctors/nurses here)33,033 out of 70,686 beds.  47% occupied

Total corona beds available in hospItal + hotels=123,000

Home recuperation: 1.58 million (no doctor/ nurses here) Up from 1.44

All numbers up slightly except ICU patients.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 243,483 coronavirus cases; 25,444 in Tokyo See in context

Painkiller,

And Okinawa rates increasing. Tokyo is not out of it yet.

Okinawa is DOWN 74 from yesterday and DOWN 1108 from last Wednesday.

So if by “increasing” you mean DOWN, then you are correct.

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Posted in: Japan reports 253,265 new coronavirus cases; 25,277 in Tokyo See in context

That's tens-of-thousands who are very, very ill.

The numbers don’t bear this out. While this variant is more contagious,

it is resulting in fewer serious cases:

ICU: 1936 out of 5573 beds. 35% occupied

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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Posted in: Japan reports 261,029 coronavirus cases; 27,676 in Tokyo See in context

The latest “hospitalization” stats dropped from the Jgov this evening.

The nationwide stats thru 8/17 are:

Active cases: 1.8 million cases down from 1.95 million

Truly hospitalized : 37,673 out of 46,777 beds.  81% occupied

ICU: 1936 out of 5573 beds. 35% occupied

Hotels: 31,000 out of 70,686 beds.  44% occupied

Total corona beds available in hospItal + hotels=123,000

Home recuperation: 1.44 million (no doctor/ nurses here)

Overall numbers barely changed from last week.

https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/newpage_00023.html

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