I’m sure many on both sides have said the same for Takeshima.
Nope, only on Japan's side. Korea has no need to "reclaim" Dokdo/Takeshima :)
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Samit Basu, so far yours is about the only reasonable conclusion here. The following is an excerpt from an article in SK's JoongAng Daily, pointing out Japanese hypocrisy - Res Ipsa Loquitur:
"Tokyo’s forceful protests against Seoul over the incident are in stark contrast to its subdued reaction towards Beijing in a similar incident.
In February 2013, a Chinese vessel aimed its fire control radar [although of course SK denies its own weapons system was turned on] at a Japanese ship near a disputed set of islets on the East China Sea. Abe reportedly told then-Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera to respond calmly and “not meet provocation with provocation,” according to the Kyodo news agency.
Analysts say Tokyo’s condemnations reflect its growing discontent of Seoul over a variety of issues afflicting the two countries’ relationships. Korea recently decided to shut down a Japanese-funded foundation for the victims of Japan’s wartime sex slavery, and a recent ruling by the Supreme Court of South Korea ordered Japanese companies to compensate Korean victims of forced labor during colonial rule.
Before departing on a trip abroad on Sunday, Japanese Foreign Minister Kono Taro told local reporters that he would demand that Seoul take appropriate measures over the radar issue and a visit to the Dokdo islets by a Korean lawmaker “amid a series of difficult issues.”
Observers in South Korea say repeated Seoul-bashing from Tokyo may be aimed to rally the Japanese public to the Abe administration’s side as its support dips due to unpopular labor policies."
Mr. Abe and his cohorts just got their own Divine Wind, it seems.
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OssanAmerica: "Apologies are meaningless if they are not accepted. Those not willing to accept them shouldn't be demanding them" -- You fail to understand what apology is. An offender who is truly repentant apologizes until the victim says "Enough, thank you". A perp who mouths the words of an apology but when the victim does not find it sufficient, pouts and acts the victim, was never really apologetic in the first place. Clearly, as has been so abundantly demonstrated by sorry corporate executives in recent years, in Japan a ritual show of "regret" is the same as the real thing, and expected to be responded to just as ritually.
Geeliez: "Very classy by Abe for being so selfless and mindful of Japan's immature neighbours" -- Thanks for the first really funny joke in days.
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Good lord, you'd think the Japanese invented cleanliness. Japan is the only country where people... you know the rest. It's just this kind of false pride and arrogance that led to the idiotic episode of the trash-ridden post-Halloween Shibuya being photoshopped to look like a different country altogether. Photos: http://www.kjclub.com/kr/board/exc_board_9/view/id/2497191
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"The fact that Japan was excluded by these talks, it's only a sign that they are more a facade than something concrete" -- [sarcasm]Yeah, without Japan, the most important entity in the Solar System, it can't possibly be genuine or relevant. [/sarcasm]
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Sigh... Japan, just man up, suck it in and accept reality. You lost Dokdo, and you lost this PR war. At least try not to make yourself look unnecessarily ridiculous by acting petty and childish -- yet again.
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Smithinjapan is absolutely on the mark. Abe & Co. are transparently trying to piggyback on the proposed US-NK summit so as not to be left out in the cold. Plus Mr. Abe badly needs a distraction from the Moritomo scandal. Plus it reinforces the traditional Japanese view of themselves as victims. Plus it's all good for him if somehow the abduction issue muddies the waters and the main parties leave the talks dissatisfied. It's as cynical as it is hypocritical.
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Japan held back not to start a new war. Nevertheless the claim persists. If they don't renew this claim regularly, they could lose it... To my knowledge, Japan agreed on respecting an ICJ rule, so it's up to South Korea to finally finish this blame game: Accept Japan's offer to settle this by the ICJ. But do you want to?
But Japan already doesn't have it! w And bringing up the ICJ is just more transparently hypocritical silliness, since Japan refuses to refer the matter of the Diaoyu Islands to that vaunted body.
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"Japan has asked South Korea THREE times to settle this dispute at the ICJ. All three times South Korea has refused. So just exactly what part of "international law" are they citing that supports their position?"
This might not sound so hypocritical and self-serving if Japan were to volunteer to take the matter of the Senkakus and the Kuriles to the ICJ. But don't hold your breath, www
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"The way in which chikan incidents are treated trivially in Japan"
One of the many effective ways to keep crime statistics down in Japan.
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"Whey they do the same against Mao, I may start paying attention to what they say."
That's a strange thing to say. You seem to be implying that it is hypocritical for the Chinese to take Japan to task when their own tyrants have also committed brutal acts, but what do Mao's, or any other Chinese despot's, crimes against the Chinese people have to do with JAPAN's crimes against China? One does not cancel out the other. If you want the Chinese to ignore Japan's crimes against China until after all those internal issues have been resolved, you are essentially asking them to never bring them up at all. So does this "logic" also work in reverse when the Japanese complain about foreign governments?
"those ridiculous comfort women statues that seem to be creeping up all over the world"
Do you ever wonder why it seems to be the world vs. Japan on this issue?
"Red sun with beams is such a beautiful traditional Japanese art"
The Nazi swastika flag is also a very attractive and eye-catching design. It's a damn shame they can't use it any more, eh?
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*These casks are used for shipping and storing spent nuclear fuel from nuclear power plants. Kobe Steel was the first Japanese manufacturer, in 1981, to begin manufacturing large-sized forged casks.*
"Forged" is right.
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"South Korea and Japan have signed an agreement ending this Comfort Women issue permanently in 2015. Japan has fulfilled it's end of the bargain. Either South Korea stands by it's international agreements or it has zero credibility as a nation."
These statues are not put up by the SK government. What people do with private donations in other countries is not the SK government's concern. On the contrary, it's Osaka and by extension, Japan, that's losing face -- big time -- in the international arena by making this petty, small-minded behavior.
In the US new books and documentaries are continually produced to make certain no one forgets the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII ; you don't see Americans getting up in in arms to protest this "deliberate prolonging" of a shameful episode.
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"Fallen or jumped" over a four-meter fence? Japanese police doing a fine job.
Keeping the stats low, that is.
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"Then how come the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are justifiable when only a few of the Japanese top brass started WWII?"
We'll get back to you when a few of the North Korean top brass start the next WW.
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Schopenhauer: "Isn't this an embarrassing matter to bring it up for Koreans themselves?"
Nope. Do you think the Armenians and the Jews should be embarrassed to talk about the genocidal massacres perpetrated against them by the Turks and the Germans? Japan is the perpetrator of this crime, and the shame rightly belongs to Japan. Stop trying to shame the victims into silence.
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"Korea, stop playing the victim card! It's starting to make you look pathetic"
Sorry, but these days it's looking more and more like it's Japan that's trying to play the victim. Of Korea's alleged lies and distortions of history, that is. And of course, the supposed innate criminality of Zainichi Koreans. Pathetic? Yeah, I'd say so.
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So for the Japanese, a foreign actor playing a Japanese characters is not an issue if the actor is white, but it is a problem if the actor is black (or Chinese/Korean)? Reminds me of how Japanese characters in manga are so often -- usually -- outfitted with incongruous caucasian features while Korean characters -- even within the same panels -- have been drawn with exaggerated Asian features, yet it's always rationalized away in ways that don't involve racism, prejudice, and delusion.
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Blame the foreigner. Yup, everything's normal in the land of Nichimoto.
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And, the saddest thing is, in his mind, this is the truth.
Well, perhaps not. It could be that he knows he is propagating a lie, but continues to do it on the theory that "A lie repeated endlessly becomes..." -- you know the rest. In fact, I suspect this is probably not a rare thing in Japan, where beautiful packaging is what REALLY matters.
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"It is none of the world's business what Japan teaches Japanese children in Japan"
Because this stuff worked out so well before, right.
And by the same token, I guess it's none of Japan's business what other countries teach their children... so let's hear no more stupid complaints about how other countries are brainwashing their kids to hate Japan in history classes, hmm?
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Why would Mr. Abe need to apologize? It was the US that forced Japan into defending herself with proactive, preemptive self-defense, everybody knows that. Everybody in Japan, at least.
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Whom he does not think were criminals
Just a user: mind reading again?
What, it isn't obvious to you? Then you're one of a TINY, willfully blind minority. Or one of the bigger weeaboo minority that will excuse anything Japan does, just because it's Japan.
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So it was all extra service in consideration of foreigners' tastes? -- What a load of BS. They did it without being asked, and never gave patrons a choice by simply putting extra wasabi on the side instead of hiding it in the sushi. It shouldn't even be necessary to refute this transparent lie, but I guess some people are bound and determined to see this in a positive light / defend Japan.
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Why would anyone approve a poison-filled site for a market in the first place? Something definitely smells "fishy".
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Schopenhauer : China and Korea are rewriting histories to their advantages
Rather an ironic claim, considering that when it comes to the business of History Beautification in modern Asia, Japan led the way and reset the bar. If you haven't had the good fortune to see that photo of Meiji emperor before and after Beautification, at a time when most Chinese and Koreans had never even heard of touching up photos, I recommend you check it out -- it's enlightening as well as very amusing.
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Somehow, this sounds way more "only in Japan" than most of those wacky inventions and gadgets.
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MrBum : Abe... How on earth is this bonehead the leader of this country?
There must be lots more like him in the country.
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"Tech stolen from the Japanese"
Prove it, or it's just more knee-slap BS. And as we all know, Japan is full of pakuri products that started out as copies of American and European originals. Maybe "Stuff Japan stole from the West" needs to be said more often.
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