SophiaHernandez comments

Posted in: Witness: Man angered by Texas deputies in yard killed them See in context

Another good guy with a gun.

nobody said he was that. its just a misrepresentation of that argument. A good guy with a gun is one who will use it to defend themselves their families or others when necessary.

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Posted in: 4 dead, 1 hurt after shooting, fire in Maryland See in context

Scrolled up and found

Why do you think gun violence is more common in the US than Europe or Japan, or basically anywhere else on earth?

Sorry, I didnt realise you meant 'that arent places that prove me wrong.'

When making comparisons from country to country, people generally compare developed countries- not developed and developing countries.

Dont be so elitist. there are people in those countries just trying to live their lives and get by, same as you.

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Posted in: 4 dead, 1 hurt after shooting, fire in Maryland See in context

while the rest of the world has stricter gun control and less shooting?

Is that right?

Mexico has extremely restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There is only one gun store in the entire country, and it takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.

In 2012 Venezuela banned private sales of firearms and ammunition hoping to lower crime rates. The army, police, and certain groups trusted by the government (colectivos) are exempted from the ban and can buy firearms from state-owned manufacturers. In 2013 Venezuela stopped issuing new firearm licenses, and in 2017 government banned carrying firearms in public places. Sixty disarmament centres were created in the country and the penalty for illegal firearm possession was raised to twenty years imprisonment.

Both have much higher gun death rates.

Didnt think you had a point. Deflecting as usual.

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Posted in: 4 dead, 1 hurt after shooting, fire in Maryland See in context

You can say the same about drugs, but you blame the gangs, cartels, dealers and junkies. Why blame guns for gun violence but forks and gangs get a pass?

America has more guns. thats our right People need them to defend against the criminals and the gangs. The US doesn't have the highest murder rate in the world. By far. Its actually about average. If people don't use guns they'll use something else.

19 people were killed in one attack by someone with a knife in Japan in 2016. seven in one attack in 2008. eight kids in 2001. Knifes fault? you better get rid of yours then, they might get up and stab you one day.

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Posted in: 4 dead, 1 hurt after shooting, fire in Maryland See in context

Bob Fosse was right. the residents should have had an armed guard on him. this wouldnt have happened.

Well, that ends the ‘good guy with a gun’ argument. What’s the hero supposed to do?

That wasnt the exchange. Here it is;

A lot of guys have guns, the non-crazy ones dont shoot people with them .

Well, that ends the ‘good guy with a gun’ argument. What’s the hero supposed to do?

You know we can scroll up right?

Anyway, let me clarify; the non-crazy ones dont shoot people with them unless defending themselves, their families or others. I apologiize for thinking you could make that leap yourself. And by the way, i didn't make the good guy argument, you did. Sarcastically I think, but its the only intelligent thing you've said so far.

I was going more, guns don't kill people, people do. You haven't addresed that one yet i notice.

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Posted in: 4 dead, 1 hurt after shooting, fire in Maryland See in context

Are the police suppose to teleport immediately to the crime scene?

I'll ask you exactly the same question about the good guys with guns. you seem to think they should be on hand to stop every crime before it happens. Actually thats the police's job. and here we know that they were told many times about this crazy guy wth a gun terrorizing the neighborhood and they did nothing. Bob Fosse was right. the residents should have had an armed guard on him. this wouldnt have happened.

Well, that ends the ‘good guy with a gun’ argument. What’s the hero supposed to do?

Thats not the 'good guy with a gun' argument and you know it. keep ducking the issue though, Bob.

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Posted in: 4 dead, 1 hurt after shooting, fire in Maryland See in context

Because the crazy guy had a gun.

A lot of guys have guns. the non-crazy ones dont shoot people with them. without someone to pull the trigger a gun is just an object. but its the guns fault. right.

Why didn’t the neighborhood watch group set up a rota system to make sure one good guy always had his sights trained on this crazy guy?

Good idea. the cops obviously could have cared less. even when the shooting started they didn't show up until 3 people were dead.

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Posted in: 4 dead, 1 hurt after shooting, fire in Maryland See in context

A fire too? The solution surely must be more gasoline.

no, obviously we should ban all gasoline. its only used for starting fires right? why are you blaming the guns and not the crazy guy, or the police who ignored him for years?

“He told the newspaper that the suspect had often confronted neighbors, who had reported him to police.

"We don’t know why he was doing that but this has been going on over and over again. A lot of people tried to complain about it but nothing was done,” Quansah said.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

Glad we can agree America needs more effective gun laws. Or no?

Absolutely. if theyre aimed at getting guns away from criminals and not hunters, hobbyists, farmers and people who simply want to defend themselves and their families.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

Well thank god only 3 people were shot, so we don't have to say it's a mass shooting! Brilliant.

Alternatively: Youre right, Sophia, you didn't mention mass killings at all. and by the way, its unfair that youre fielding all these insults without a word in return. no wonder were not reaching any middle ground.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

You're commenting on a story about a mass shooting. 

Actually i take the Gun Violence Archives definition which is "FOUR or more shot and/or killed in a single event [incident], at the same general time and location, not including the shooter,”

I'm comenting on yet another story about another ineffective gun law.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

Crimes of passion-no time to stop and check the laws there- included

A pre-meditated mass shooting is not a 'crime of passion'. Your logic fails at every step.

Come on now. The quote was,

"A person bent on killing will kill. Crimes of passion-no time to stop and check the laws there- included."

A strawman argument, and a stupid one at that. Tell me about the mass punching deaths this year?

the only person talking about mass killing is you. Take a breath, Clippety.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

If murder was legal, murder cases would rise.

Prove it.

If it weren't illegal, you think people wouldn't kill over an inheritance, or a robbery etc?

It is illegal. that still happens. would you go out and kill someone just cos its legal? cheating on your partner is legal. do you do that?

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

This is still, as it alway has been, the dumbest resort of a desparate position.

right. no ones ever been killed with a knife, or a punch. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38992393

Denial isnt an argument either. all ive had is 'if we make more laws, criminals will stop being criminals'

Well hate to tell you guys, two kids and an adult were just shot in a 'gun free zone'

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

What would happen if murder was no longer illegal; Do you think murder rates would go up or down?

Neither. A person bent on killing will kill. Crimes of passion-no time to stop and check the laws there- included. Someone who lacks the capacity to kill, like me, wont do it even if it was legal. What you think?

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

So why does gun-crazy America have a much higher gun death rate than other wealthy countries with sensible gun laws? If guns don’t kill people, it must be… the people?

Americas murder rate is below the world average. can't get a gun? use a knife/hammer/car/bomb/fist.

Wealthy countries dont necessarily make wealthy people. 34 million live below the poverty line in the states.

I told you, you have no argument.

My argument is that criminals dont obey laws. Your argument is...they do?

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

That’s your line of reasoning is it? Kids are going to get shot no matter what?

No. My reasoning is kids are getting shot, no matter how many laws there are. I mean...gun free zone. It doesn't get more strict than that.

Counter arguments work when there is an initial argument, with a logical sentient being.

insults arent arguments.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

Uhh he’s actually making a very cogent argument, it’s just one that you’re not willing to hear. So lemme spell it out for you.

Uhh, thats your argument, not takeda's. There are hundreds of gun laws in America. Assault weapons bans, machine gun bans, high cap magazine bans, gun free zones, red flags, safe storage, background checks, waiting periods, permit to purchase, license to carry, manufacture, design etc. all ignored by the criminals, and followed by law abiding gun owners only.

People say that looser gun laws will prevent gun violence

Not just gun violence. assault, rape, robbery, murder, burglary.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

Right. Why have laws if people are just going to ignore them anyway? Brilliant. I totally agree, let's get rid of murder laws.

You know your not actually making any counter arguments, right?

We have murder laws. people still murder. We have DUI laws, people still DUI. Robbery laws, assault, rape.

Laws can deter, sure. Many gun owners are law abiding. Hunters, sport shooters, collecters. Theyre also important for setting cultural norms and expectations. and for punishment. But if someone wants to commit a crime, they're going to do it. And gun free zones and 'assault weapons' bans isn't going to stop them. Case in point: this article.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

Amen sister, this is exactly why we should get rid of DUI laws. People are always going to drink and drive, even with laws in place, therefore we should do away with DUI laws.

Have all the laws you want. Criminals are gonna ignore them anyway.

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Posted in: Shooting at Idaho middle school injures 3; student detained See in context

They should of made the school a gun free zone, then this wouldnt have happened. oh wait. Well, maybe she just didn't see the sign.

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Posted in: U.S. Supreme Court to take up right to carry gun for self-defense See in context

How much tax do you pay on your car, that you've already paid for?

False equivalency. I paid sales tax on it once, when I bought it. the rest is road user charges. if you want to say this tax on firearms is user charges, I'd say I pay that on bullets.

And no one is forcing me to give up my car or become a criminal. Would you be happy if you were told to either pay tax on your bicycle again, sell it to the government or become an outlaw? how about your furniture, or anything else you've bought and paid for?

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Posted in: U.S. Supreme Court to take up right to carry gun for self-defense See in context

I read the list and understand that there isn’t example of guns being grabbed from anyone. You should try writing better if you want to be understood by rational adults instead of needing to backtrack.

Maybe, but putting your hands over your ears and going lalalala isnt an argument.

How about buybacks? you have a choice of giving up your semi-auto rifle, or having to pay a tax on something you have already bought if you want to keep it. if you're going to make the argument that the tax is only $200 then you don't live in the real world. also its per firearm. some people have many.

A red flag law means your ex can tell a judge, without proof, that you threatended to hurt them, and you'll have your guns taken away.

Thats gun grabbing. the rest is just infringements on our rights.

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Posted in: U.S. Supreme Court to take up right to carry gun for self-defense See in context

This all seems extremely sensible and actually helpful.

So you didn’t see the grabbing part either?

Come on. Buy backs? ban the sale of..? regulate possession of...? reduce stockpiles? end the sale of? All infringements on "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms"

Thought I forgot how to read for a moment.

Cognitive dissonance will do that.

Red flag laws take guns away from gun owners without due process. Gun storage laws prevent the use of them for self defense and so do waiting periods. Smart guns don't work and often can't be used for lawful purposes closing so called loopholes prevents transfers of firearms between family members and friends. all chipping away at our first freedom. All part of the very long list I posted to that you obviously didn't read or understand.

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Posted in: U.S. Supreme Court to take up right to carry gun for self-defense See in context

The gun grabber part I call hyperbolic nonsense

please elaborate. heres what I see

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines

Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act

Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities.

Reduce stockpiling of weapons

End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions

and the list goes on.

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

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Posted in: U.S. Supreme Court to take up right to carry gun for self-defense See in context

Same when you to meet Biden or even going to a Madonna concert. So what’s your point?

The point, which is painfully obvious, is that the NRA is a bunch of hypocrites.

You're welcome.

So what do you call it when gungrabbing Biden harris and probably Madonna are surrounded by armed security?

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Posted in: U.S. Supreme Court to take up right to carry gun for self-defense See in context

What kind of semi-automatic did John Adams keep in the window of his pickup truck?

maybe a Puckle gun, a ferguson rifle, a Girandoni air rifle or a a German breech-loading matchlock arquebus. All were rapid fire (the puckle gun had a pre-loaded cylinder which held 11 charges and could fire 63 shots in seven minutes - 9 a minute) and all available at the time the of Constitution  

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2018/03/11/multi-shot-assault-weapons-of-the-1700s-and-the-2nd-amendment/

Another question: what kind of computer or smartphone did John Adams use to exercise his freedom of speech?

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Posted in: U.S. Supreme Court to take up right to carry gun for self-defense See in context

The national ideal is a 24/7 fully armed citizenry acting in countervailance to everyone else within shotgun range.

Or a glock . an armed society is a polite society

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Posted in: 3 dead, 2 wounded in shooting at Wisconsin tavern See in context

This will help the American economy with more gun sales

Don't forget the bullets.

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Posted in: 3 dead, 2 wounded in shooting at Wisconsin tavern See in context

Next let's compare guns and can openers.

All right. lets get two guys to attack us. I'll use a gun to defend myself and you use a can opener.

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