There are certainly legal issues surrounding the keeping of people on the ship for an extended period. But every other country is requiring that all passengers undergo further quarantine, except Japan. The two weeks they have been under quarantine started on February 5th but the possibility of secondary infections taking place right up until the moment the left the ship is extremley high. There it is incredibly risky to release them back into the public. Japan would rather save face that save lives.
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Two passengers from the ship have just died.
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@James Stowe, Removed to a location better suited to a quarantine. The ship, clearly was not. Or it could have been if it had been managed correctly and not by 'bureaucrats'.
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@Akie, I am sorry but you just have to admit that Japan failed. It seems that saving face is more important than saving lives. If you had tested and removed everyone from the start you would have only had a few cases. Now it is over 500!
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"The quarantine was largely for passengers because crew members kept sharing double rooms and continued to serve guests by delivering food, letters, towels and amenities, and entering passenger cabins for cleaning. Crew members also ate in groups in a crew mess hall."
The above quote from elsewhere on JapanToday shows us the true failure of this quarantine!
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The quarantine was largely for passengers because crew members kept sharing double rooms and continued to serve guests by delivering food, letters, towels and amenities, and entering passenger cabins for cleaning. Crew members also ate in groups in a crew mess hall.
Who on earth decided that this was ok? The company certainly takes some responsibility for deciding to continue the cruise in a 'business as usual' manner while in quarantine, but surely the authorities here should have followed stricter rules. Although this sentence put at the end of the article, it is clearly one of the primary reasons for the failure of this quarantine. Classic Japanese indecision at work!
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@Akie, the failure was the management of the quarantine on the ship. If it had been done correctly, then it would have probably worked. The idea of doing the quarantine was fine but they failed to do it correctly. @Alex80 would have had the cruise company Carnival handle it because they would have done a better job than the Japanese government.
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@Akie, Did you watch the professor's video? Of course, you didn't. He did not make up fake information, but he did criticise Japan's handling of the situation. Therefore, as no one is ever allowed to criticise Japan, he must be wrong.
Japan did what it did and, unfortunately, it failed. I am not happy to say that, but almost all oversers say so. It wasn't a terrible idea to keep passengers on the ship, but the measures taken onboard were not sufficient to keep people safe and stop the virus spreading. Saving face is not more important than saving lives. This exactly what China is realising.
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Alex80, I was making a joke about where the ship is built! Of course it's not important where the ship was built, just as it's not important in this situation what company owns the ship. You also avoided the question. Do you think the company Carnival should have managed the quarantine?
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@Alex80, do you think Carnival should decide whether or not to have a quarantine? And that they should manage it? You would let a cruise ship company be responsibile for managing the potential outbreak of an infectious disease in a country? If you think about it carefully , you will notice there is no logic to it.
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Akie, are you saying that Professor Iwata Kentaro PhD is a fake expert?
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Alex80, This has nothing to do with the ship or the company that owns it. They follow the rules of the country in which they are docked; that is Japan. Stop trying to find others to blame. Perhaps you would blame China, because that is where the virus formed?
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Alex80, so the Diamond Princess, (which was built in Japan) should have sailed all the way to America? That would have taken 10 days at least? What a ridicious idea!
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@Alex80 - Have you watched the videos from Iwata Kentaro?
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Many have pointed out the interesting perspective from Iwata Kentaro PhD who was on the ship yesterday.
I thought I'd post the links to both the Japanese and English videos he made.
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Ask the owner of the ship, P&O (British Company) or Princess Cruise (U.S management company)
Why? Do you think P&O or Princess Cruise should manage a quarantine of a new infectious disease?
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"The quarantine was not to protect the people on the ship. It was to protect Japan from the people on the ship."
Well, that may have been the intention but it has failed. You now have a potential 1000+ Japanese nationals with the virus being released over the next three days. This could have been a mere handful if everyone had been taken off at the beginning, tested and isolated in a proper environment.
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For those supporting Japan's planning here, watch the above video from Iwata Kentaro Phd who went on the ship yesterday. Above is Japanese and below English,
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It clearly failed as many experts have pointed out. They should have removed all the passengers on day one and isolated them in a proper enviroment with strict rules of contact. It seems the ship was not the best place for this and contact between passengers and crew continued. After the first batches of cases started to appear , it should have been clear what was happening. Instead, Japan wanted to keep it's total number of cases low by seperating the Diamond Princess.
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Alex80 “Dont forget Diamond Princess is actually owned by an American company. Objectively, it isn't related in any way to Japan except for the fact it's in Japanese waters.”. So ? What about Chinese nationals who were found with the virus in Singapore or other countries? They should all be added to China’s count?
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Alex80, Japan should have removed everyone and tested them immediately. Leaving them on the ship for them all to catch it was reckless. That’s why America moved in. They said Japan’s quarantine ‘failed’. We need to be concerned about the virus and people not whether the ship is actually in Japan or not. Focus on what is important here; people’s health and lives, not Japan’s image abroad.
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Most of them will be entering Japan this week and, because of the mishandling, most will be infected.
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The ship is in Japan and as are the patients removed from it. It's absurd for Japan to pretend they are not just to keep thier number down. No other country is doing this. Many cases are where Chinese nationals were diagnosed in other countries and they are not added to China's total number.
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Alex80 - But they are in Japan. When the 1000 or so Japanese passengers who may have the virus are released, can you add those numbers? What about the various Chinese people who were found infected in other countriies? Should they be added to China's number or the country where they are? In every case, excpet Japan, the latter is true. Japan is just trying to keep its number low.
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