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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

@ObviousDemon

Surely someone in Japan is wise enough to do a Cost-Benefit analysis on holding these guys.........but then again, a person with that logic would have to do a Cost-Benefit on the whole whaling Kabuki show......

Yes, a normal, logical person would think that. Unfortunately, Japan doesn't want to have to comply with what other countries and NGOs have to say because they think it would make them look bad in the eyes of the rest of the world. But here's the thing that they haven't figured out yet. More people would praise Japan for stopping the horrific murder of one of the most intelligent beings on the planet than would condemn the decision.

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Posted in: Do you consider the anti-whaling group Sea Shepherd to be eco-terrorists? See in context

@arrestpaul

Everyone has right to DEFEND themselves from attack. The whalers and fishermen are only DEFENDING themselves from "eco-terrorist" attacks.

The whales cannot defend themselves so Sea Shepherd is the only one defending them.

They've rammed ships, sunk ships, and disabled ships.

Umm, didn't the SM2 ram and sink the Ady Gil. Oh wait, you deny they did that even though they clearly did.

The IWC kicked the SS out as a NGO observer because of its continued use of violence.

About half of the IWC is bribed and therefore, controlled by Japan. That argument holds no weight.

"Eco-terrorist" is a perfect description of who and what the Sea Sheperd organization is.

Refer to my previous post about the definition of "eco-terrorist."

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Posted in: Do you consider the anti-whaling group Sea Shepherd to be eco-terrorists? See in context

@OssanAmerica

The FBI defines eco-terrorism as the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal nature against innocent victims or property by an environmentally-oriented, subnational group for environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an audience beyond the target, often of a symbolic nature."

Haha. The whalers are definitely not innocent.

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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

@YuriOtani

Illegal boarding of a merchant ship.

Do regular "merchant ships" have armed coast guard members on them and "Government of Japan" painted on the side?

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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

@otaku2012

All for some stupid whales.

Whales are one of the most intelligent beings on the planet. We are not. The whales brain is the largest to have ever evolved on the planet. We are one of the stupidest and most selfish beings on the planet. We care only for ourselves and don't care for anything else. We think that we can butcher our planet. Soon, there won't be anything left and we will all die and be the cause for our own self-destruction and extinction.

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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

@arrestpaul

Apparently the highest ranking lawyer in Australian law enforcement is under the impression that the incident took place OUTSIDE of Australian waters. Only the eco-terrorist Watson is claiming that it occured within Australian waters. It looks like the eco-terrorist Watson miscalculated.

Maybe Japan has bribed her/gov't into saying that. Japan only seems to get places when they bribe.

The SM2 is only following the eco-terrorist vessel. They're not trying to ram them, or sink them, or throw glass bottles of acid at them. No green lazer lights are being used to blind the crew. No helicopter is dropping lightbulbs filled with paint or acid on them.

The SM2 is NOT an armed vessel. In the latest pictures of the SM2 (it's painted white and has the words, "Government of Japan" written on it's side) you'll notice that there is NO harpoon gun mounted at the bow.

Let me remind you that the SM2 rammed and sunk the Ady Gil. There is no proof of the green lasers. Please, show me some evidence. The helicopter hasn't dropped anything on the whalers. The helicopter pilot refuses to drop anything out of the helicopter. It is only used for reconnaissance.

Get over the word acid. Oh my goodness, I drink citric acid every morning with my breakfast. The butyric acid is less acidic than orange juice, beer, wine, etc. From Wikipedia, "Butyric acid is a weak acid with a pKa of 4.82, similar to acetic acid (main component of vinegar), which has pKa 4.76."

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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

@genji17

With all the money the SS uses to build boats, and terrorize LEGAL activities, they could do so much more for the environment buy donating all that cash to conservation.

First, Sea Shepherd doesn't build boats the 2 main boats, Bob Barker and Steve Irwin, are built in 1950 and 1972 respectively. The other boats, Ady Gil and Brigitte Bardot, were built for circumnavigating the globe, not by Sea Shepherd. They were purchased after their previous careers. Secondly, the full name is Sea Shepherd is the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. So by donating to Sea Shepherd, you are "donating all that cash to conservation."

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Posted in: 3 Sea Shepherd activists detained aboard Japanese whaling vessel See in context

@It"S ME

And if course Australian laws supercede UN, etc ones.

How about the UN World Charter for Nature. I guess that doesn't apply because the Japanese gov't feels like they can ignore it if they want. But when somebody else supposedly breaks a UN law against them, it does apply. (@arrestpaul, you may want to pipe in here since you seemed to be so interested in it in one of the last articles.)

.21. States and, to the extent they are able, other public authorities, international organizations, individuals, groups and corporations shall:

(a) Co-operate in the task of conserving nature through common activities and other relevant actions, including information exchange and consultations;

(b) Establish standards for products and other manufacturing processes that may have adverse effects on nature, as well as agreed methodologies for assessing these effects;

(c) Implement the applicable international legal provisions for the conservation of nature and the protection of the environment;

(d) Ensure that activities within their jurisdictions or control do not cause damage to the natural systems located within other States or in the areas beyond the limits of national jurisdiction;

(**e) Safeguard and conserve nature in areas beyond national jurisdiction.

.22. Taking fully into account the sovereignty of States over their natural resources, each State shall give effect to the provisions of the present Charter through its competent organs and in co-operation with other States.

.23. All persons, in accordance with their national legislation, shall have the opportunity to participate, individually or with others, in the formulation of decisions of direct concern to their environment, and shall have access to means of redress when their environment has suffered damage or degradation.

.24. Each person has a duty to act in accordance with the provisions of the present Charter, acting individually, in association with others or through participation in the political process, each person shall strive to ensure that the objectives and requirements of the present Charter are met.**

Hmm, I guess the Japanese can ignore this one since they don't like this.

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Posted in: Huge waves damage Sea Shepherd boat during chase See in context

@cleo

That is amazing. I don't think anybody could have said it any better.

@OssanAmerica

How does throwing bamboo spears into a small inflatable boat, where the crew have no way of protecting themselves, define the character of the whalers? How does throwing large brass bolts and golf balls into a small inflatable boat, where the crew have no way of protecting themselves, define the character of the whalers? How does aiming an LRAD at a helicopter pilot who is flying over the freezing, Antarctic waters, where he would die in minutes if he crashed, define the character of the whalers? How does throwing flash grenades at people within a close range define the character of the whalers? How does shooting at and trying to kill the Sea Shepherd crew define the character of the whalers? How does running over a 13 ton, fibreglass boat and almost killing six people with a 700 ton steel boat define the character of the whalers?

Nor does it justify supporting the criminals who carry out such acts of violence.

Refer to the above part of this comment for only some of the violent things that the whalers have done. Sea Shepherd isn't the one down in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary illegally. The Nissin Maru is down there illegally because they burn heavy fuels and the burning of heavy fuels below 60 degrees was banned this past summer. They are also down in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary illegally killing whales. They use the loophole of "scientific research" to kill whales. Many experts and the IWC have said that the lethal research is unnecessary and can be preformed without murdering the endangered whales. How does it make sense to murder whales in order to find out their population numbers.

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Posted in: Anti-whaling activists use drone to track Japan fleet See in context

@arrestpaul

Who normally sets fishing quotas and seasons?

It doesn't even make sense that a country would set its own quota when there is an international government organization (IWC) that would set those quotas. Unfortunately, Japan has bribed half of the commission into supporting them.

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

"@arrestpaul

It doesn't make sense but that's exactly what the AG did.

The Ady was idling and not moving and the Shonan Maru 2 clearly turned into it.

Pete betrayed Sea Shepherd and still does to this day. He has given false information to the authorities. Paul cannot trust him anymore.

The UN has a lot of power. They were created to stop things like the Japanese governments injustices. Unfortunately, Japan seems to think that they have a lot of money to throw around and bribe other countries to support them and avoid the repercussions that they deserve.

The UN World Charter for Nature states:

21) States and, to the extent they are able, other public authorities, international organizations, individuals, groups and corporations shall:

(a) Co-operate in the task of conserving nature through common activities and other relevant actions, including information exchange and consultations

(b) Establish standards for products and other manufacturing processes that may have adverse effects on nature, as well as agreed methodologies for assessing these effects

(c) Implement the applicable international legal provisions for the conservation of nature and the protection of the environment

(d) Ensure that activities within their jurisdictions or control do not cause damage to the natural systems located within other States or in the areas beyond the limits of national jurisdiction

(e) Safeguard and conserve nature in areas beyond national jurisdiction

Do you have your eco-terrorist SS black shirt that lists the names of the vessels they sunk?

Why yes. Yes, I do. I am actually wearing it right now. Clearly, you didn't know that all 11 vessels that they have sunk had nobody onboard when they were sunk. There would have been 13 but there were people on the other 2 Icelandic whaling boats so they decided not to sink them.

Do you have your AG crew hat that says, "STAND BY TO RAM"?

You are wrong when you say that the hat is for Ady Gil crew members. It is actually a hat for all crew members on Sea Shepherd boats. The Steve Irwin and Bob Barker would be the ones to ram ships their own size.

Pro-violence, terrorist organization are having their funding frozen.

Sea Shepherd is an international non-profit, marine wildlife conservation organization, not a pro-violence, terrorist organization.

Proving that the eco-terrorist SS is using acts of violence to force others to do their bidding isn't going to be difficult. The eco-terrorist's own videos will the the highlight of any trial and proof positive of their violence.

Actually, it will. The US courts actually take into account both side's statements, even if one side is a government and the other is not. The Japanese whalers have caused harm to the Sea Shepherd crew. The Japanese whalers have never been hurt by Sea Shepherd. The Japanese whalers threw brass bolts, golf balls, and bamboo spears into the small inflatable boats with the intent to hurt the crew. They also threw flash grenades and shot at the crew on the Steve Irwin. The have numerously aimed the LRAD at the helicopter pilot, which can cause him to crash into the freezing Antarctic waters and freeze to death. The whalers are also illegally killing whales in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary. The Nissin Maru, once they pass 60 degrees, will be in the Antarctic illegally because it uses heavy fuel oils."

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

From the IWC:

As stated in Resolution 2007-1 below:

RECALLING that the Commission has repeatedly requested Contracting Parties to refrain from issuing special permits for research involving the killing of whales within the Southern Ocean Sanctuary, has expressed deep concern at continuing lethal research within the Southern Ocean Sanctuary, and has also recommended that scientific research involving the killing of cetaceans should only be permitted where critically important research needs are addressed;

the IWC is:

CONVINCED that the aims of JARPA II do not address critically important research needs;

the IWC:

FURTHER CALLS UPON the Government of Japan to suspend indefinitely the lethal aspects of JARPA II conducted within the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary.

ECO-TERRORISM AND PIRACY ON THE HIGH SEAS: JAPANESE WHALING AND THE RIGHTS OF PRIVATE GROUPS TO ENFORCE INTERNATIONAL CONSERVATION LAW IN NEUTRAL WATERS

2009, Joseph Elliott Roeschke, The Villanova Environmental Law Journal, Volume XX, Issue 1, pages 99-136.

http://www.seashepherd.org/images/stories/who-we-are/laws-and-charters-1-30-09_-JER-_Sea_Shepherd_Whaling_Paper.pdf

This is an article by an outside party that you should really take a look at, especially the conclusion on the last page.

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

@arrestpaul

Hahahaha. The video isn't "my point of view", it's the only video that shows the stern of the AG and proves that it accelerated into the path of the SM2.

Um, you clearly haven't watched the link that I posted. IT SHOWS THE VIDEO SHOT FROM THE SHONAN MARU 2 AS WELL AS FROM THE BOB BARKER AND ADY GIL. The name of your video is "Sea Shepherds Stage Ady Gil Crash into the Shonan Maru for Publicity " and mine is "Ady Gil Collision 3-way Split Screen". And how the hell does it even remotely make sense that the Ady accelerated infront of the SM2. That would be like parking your bike and asking to get hit by a school bus. Yes, now I can see how that make sense (in sarcastic voice).

Don't play chicken with larger vessels.

Wow, really. Thank you, Captain Obvious. THEY DIDN'T!

Whalers have been injured by eco-terrorist launched glass bottles of acid as was proven at eco-terrorist Pete Bethune's trial for high seas stupidity.

Um, you didn't even give any examples. Please provide some because I am unaware of any.

They have no authority to deputize any freebooter to enforce made up "laws".

What are you talking about. It's the UN! They have some of the most powerful laws in the world. The govern the governments of the world. Without them, this world would be a disaster.

In what court would the eco-terrorist Watson be considered anything but an eco-terrorists for ramming, sinking, launching glass bottles of acid, throwing red phosphorus flares, and conning naive animal lovers and over-the-hill "entertainers" out of their money?

To answer your question, most courts wouldn't consider him the things you listed. Ramming? Do you not remember 2 years ago when the Shonan Maru rammed the Ady Gil and it subsequently sank.

@Ady Belgium

Thank you for finally providing a logical answer.

<In Belgium we can say what we want, without be throwing into jail unlike in Japan.

Same as in Canada, the USA, and most of the world.

Japan thinks that they can do whatever they want, like ignoring laws, using allocated donation money for the wrong purpose, illegally whaling in a whale sanctuary and burning heavy fuels below 60 degrees to name a few.

Japan's case will never hold in US courts.

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

@arrestpaul Your video is from only your point of view. My video shows the collision from the Bob Barker, Ady Gil, and the Shonan Maru 2. It clearly shows the SM2 turning into the Ady. The Ady tries to turn starboard to avoid the SM2. The video shot from the Ady shows the men on the back of the boat and it is NOT moving, it's only idling. You can see the SM2 making a hard starboard turn into the Ady. You should examine all videos available a little more closely. In this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLdUISE3e8c) at about 40 seconds, the SM2 clearly turns. At 1:20, in shows the split screen on the 3 videos from the Bob Barker, Ady Gil and SM2. The Ady didn't start moving until the SM2 was almost on top of them. They didn't have enough time to do anything else. You should clearly do more research before you make untrue statements like you did.

Disabling any vessel in the dangerous waters of the Antarctic could lead to its sinking and possible loss of life.

Sea Shepherd has successfully prop fouled the whaling ships, one of which was didn't move for 2 days because of the prop fouler. They were completely fine. The only thing that would happen if the prop was completely broken is that they would have to be towed to the nearest port.

Whalers have been injured by eco-terrorist launched glass bottles of acid as was proven at eco-terrorist Pete Bethune's trial for high seas stupidity.

You are so wrong here. The whalers have only been injured by their own stupidity as seen in this video(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U1rINRY_RQ) and have never been hurt by Sea Shepherd. Please list off the injuries caused by Sea Shepherd because I am not aware of any and trust me, I have done my fair share of research. Make sure you do yours before you make uneducated comments.

The eco-terrorist's inability to consistantly hit the whalers doesn't mean they aren't repeatedly trying.

I would imagine that after thousands of throws, they would have eventually hit somebody. And if they did, where is the evidence. The whalers are constantly saying that Sea Shepherd has hit them with the butyric acid bottles but why don't they have evidence of the injuries or the so called "burns." The whalers always have all these video cameras taping all the engagements. Why don't they actually show whalers being hit with the bottles? Why don't they show their crew being scalded by the Butyric Acid? Why don't they show the marks left by the bottles thrown by the SSCS? They are always making these accusations but unlike Sea Shepherd, there is never any evidence to back it up.

The eco-terrorist have NO legal authority to attack or disable any vessel anywhere.

They actually do have the authority to enforce the laws being broken by the illegal whalers. The UN World Charter for Nature states in #24 (http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/37/a37r007.htm) that "Each person has a duty to act in accordance with the provisions of the present Charter; acting individually, in association with others or through participation in the political process, each person shall strive to ensure that the objectives and requirements of the present Charter are met." This gives Sea Shepherd the power to enforce the laws set int the UN World Charter For Nature. It allows them to stop any illegal activities like the "scientific" whaling operation.

The AG had a bow and arrows on board to shoot in the direction of the whalers.

They had bow and arrows on board to shot into the whales so that it would make people not want to eat the meat but it was still ok for "scientific research." They never said that they were going shot them at people. The whaling crew members have actually shot at Sea Shepherd crew before.

It would be considered attempted assault

Please, lets not talk abut attempted assaults here. You may be putting yourself into a sticky situation. At the killing cove in Taiji, the SS Cove Guardians have been physically and verbally assaulted by the dolphin killers but the police didn't do a thing about it but as soon as the SS Cove Guardians tried to take pictures, they were arrested (and one is currently being held) because of something that somebody made up (The Japanese said that the cove guardian had bumped into somebody at the dolphinarium.) I could gp on for days about assaults.

Australian, New Zealand, and the Neatherlands which are also pro-violence.

Yes, just because Sea Shepherd vessels and crew members are affiliated with these countries, it automatically make them pro-violence. And don't even think about saying Sea Shepherd is the violent one. Just remember, it isn't Sea Shepherd killing over 1000 protected whales and 23,000 dolphins every year.

Like I said before, the bottom line is that the whalers are committing illegal murder of protected whales in the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary and Sea Shepherd Conservation Society seems to be the only ones willing to protect the innocent, defenceless whales.

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

@It"S ME

Um, I'm so sorry I don't sit here for hours waiting for your uneducated reply. I have a life.

The Sea Shepherd crew never throw the bottles near people. I used drink pure lemon juice and eat lemons as a kid. So to answer your question, I would volunteer to be splashed with lemon juice or citric acid because that would be worse than being splashed with butyric acid. You would only smell bad. They have never hurt anybody with the bottles. The butyric acid is less harmful than orange juice. It only smells bad. It makes them not want to work in the place where the rotten butter was thrown and not want to eat the whale meat. The meat can still be used for their "scientific research."

And how is throwing a bottle into an open space with no people around a criminal offence. The whole whaling operation is ILLEGAL.

Sea Shepherd crew would stop throwing the butyric acid if the whalers would stop murdering the whales illegally.

Awaiting your answer?

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

When the eco-terrorist SS finally does manage to disable a whaler and then sink it, that crew will also face hypothermia and would most likely die as it only take a couple minutes.

The prop fouler would only cause the ship to not move, it wouldn't cause them to sink.

Sea Shepherd is the whales only defence. Without them, they would probably be extinct or close to it. The whalers are are murdering those who cannot defend themselves.

Sea Shepherd throws bottles of butyric acid and it is less acidic than orange juice. It is found in cheese. Japan and the whalers are blowing the whole "acid" thing WAY out of proportion.

The bottom line is that the whalers are committing illegal murder of protected whales and Sea Shepherd Conservation Society seems to be the only ones willing to protect the innocent, defenceless whales.****

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

AG accelerating the toy boat INTO the path of the SM2.

As you can clearly see in the video, the Ady Gil didn't even move. The video link shows the video shot from the Shonan Maru 2

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

@arrestpaul

I wouldn't allow an eco-terrorist helicopter to fly over my head either considering their decades long history of commiting repeated acts of violence. Using the LRAD to PREVENT an attack is exactly what the LRAD was designed to do.

If the LRAD is pointed at the helicopter, it could cause him to be disoriented and crash into the freezing Antarctic waters. He would be hypothermic and would most likely die as it only take a couple minutes.

Sea Shepherd has never hurt or tried to hurt anybody but the Japanese Whaling fleet has. If you don't remember, the Japanese whalers threw brass bolts, golf balls, and bamboo spears into the small inflatable boats with the intent to hurt people. They also threw flash grenades and shot at the crew on the Steve Irwin. The have numerously aimed the LRAD at the helicopter pilot. The Japanese are the ones at fault not Sea Shepherd.

Chris Aultman, the helicopter pilot refuses to throw anything out of the helicopter so that is impossible.

All Sea Shepherd member are vegan aboard Sea Shepherd vessels so clearly they are not pro-violence. They wouldn't kill a fly. The whalers are the ones that want to murder over 900 whales. (Def. of murder: to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously. From dictionary.com)

No Sea Shepherd boat flies under the the New Zealand flag.

I don't know what video you are watching but the Ady Gil couldn't move because they were completely out of fuel. They could not reverse. Check this video. It is a split-screen of all video available of the crash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLdUISE3e8c You can clearly see that the Ady wasn't even moving and the Shonan turned into the Ady.

Next time, and there will be a next time, maybe the incompetent eco-terrorist SS will remember how to use "reverse".

Are You making a threat at Sea Shepherd? Wow! This just proves that the whalers are the violent ones and Sea Shepherd isn't. And remember how Sea Shepherd called Chilean authorities on the whalers before they entered their waters. Sea Shepherd was smart enough to know that. Sea Shepherd forced the whaling fleet out of the Southern Antarctic Whale Sanctuary with only 17% of their murder quota.

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

kwatt, Proof that the whalers have throw a spear at the small, inflatable SS boats.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmKOFFJfkVw

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Posted in: Japan whaling authorities sue Sea Shepherd in U.S. See in context

How do you think that Japan's case will hold? Sea Shepherd is violent? If you don't remember, the Japanese whalers threw brass bolts, golf balls, and bamboo spears into the small inflatable boats with the intent to hurt people. They also threw flash grenades and shot at the crew on the Steve Irwin. The have numerously aimed the LRAD at the helicopter pilot. FYI, it can cause him to crash into the freezing Antarctic waters where he will freeze to death in minutes. Ohh, sorry for making your boats a little smelly.

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