Like it or not, Article 9 is just a formality at this point. You will get to see what Trump is talking about soon enough. Think, and spread what you want regarding propaganda. That's fine...
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Why do some folks believe (When there is evidence to the contrary) That Japan has no military capabilities? Do you really believe that Japan will just sit by and continue to do nothing? There is some really bad news awaiting some of you.
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Talk about arrogance and stupidity? The latest response from china... And for some reason, I just want to punch that woman in the mouth.
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Yes, instead they will get the Wal-Mart of submarines. Hilarious!
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I am honestly glad they didn't get the bid considering how much Australia kisses china's ass. It just would not be a good move by any means. To those of you REALLY EXCITED about it (lol) It also means no US arms support for the sub fleet. Not saying that is a great loss, but it ain't good either...
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I think this is click bait, and socialist bull... No other news source dealing with Japan in an honest manner is reporting such trash.
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Christopher GlenSEP. 29, 2015 - 01:28PM JST Clearly you're "tough guy" talk is just not going to fly, especially not with Putin, who could easily put Abe on the ground in a Judo move (a Japanese sport!) while Abe just held his tummy and talked about magic arrows and said he'd hire a woman to get him tea.
You just made my day there. We are in complete agreement on this topic
Clearly you believe that judo is the only art practiced, and that pooten is the only guy good at it...
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Japanese arms dealers are glad to have finally found excuses and glad to have finally been able to get a PM to ram legal changes through.
If the Philippines cannot afford to pay the full price for these weapons, we taxpayers will.
And I still insist the Chinese don't have the navy or the martial skill to really do anything serious about their island claims and still hardly any shots have been fired.
So lets just wipe our posteriors with Article 9 and see how much further into debt Japan can get.>
Wow! Really? You are that far behind current events? I am seriously in awe here. You just really do not get it do you? or is it just faked ignorance to further your agenda?
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SK would swat Japan's military down like it was nothing.
That is some of the most delusional bs i have ever heard. If Japan really wanted those islands, they would have them. SK needs to get it's collective head out of it's butt and start worrying about what the north will do...
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Oh c'mon! This again? Really? Guilt trips. So according to this logic, I should ask the children of the man who murdered my father for an apology, and i should constantly harass them yea? Even though they had nothing to do with it? Dumb... Really dumb.
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The submarines that Japan builds aren't really suitable for the Australian navy's needs. The Soryu Class is designed to operate over relatively short distances in NE Asian waters, not the vast expanses of the the South Pacific.
The distance of the Soryu Class Attack Subs are "Classified". Unless your going to start building nuclear subs, distance will be an issue anyway. Just saying.
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Clearly the answer to this question is that Japan does not have the capacity to rescue these hostages, and likely never will. Japan simply doesn't have the option of sending in Arabic members of the JSDF as undercover operative to gather the intel that you would need before mounting a rescue operation, because they probably don't exist.
No they may not. But they clearly have other military options. They should stop taking a back seat and step up.
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Cannot stop laughing! OMG my jaw hurts! Absolutely hilarious JT!
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Wishful thinking. Thats all this article is.
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I also served my country 4 years as an infantryman, 2 years in Germany from 1988-90, two stateside. I clearly stated that Abe has NO bills awaiting approval that would beef up Japan's military capabilities with either more hardware or troops buildup! Please explain where I'm wrong as you seem to have a much more intuitive sense of tactical military strategy.
Japan DOES in fact have plans for more hardware. Including destroyers, submarines, and new fighter aircraft. Have you not been paying attention at all? This will be a 10 year buildup plan as stated by Abe himself.
What has the free world done to protect Japan? Ask anyone in Japan who they would call on to back them up when the sh*t hits the fan and it surely ain't gonna be the free world my friend! Again, please back up your argument with a little more insight as there ain't no substance to your argument.
They wouldn't have to call anyone. You think we have military in the region for a beauty contest or something? No! wait! I'm obviously imaging it! Just wishful thinking on my part. I seriously do not understand you peoples need to see Japan fail at everything. It sounds incredibly desperate to me. And just because you do not like the substance contained therein doesn't mean there "aint" none.
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Secondly, NONE of the scenarios Abe has presented show a weakness in Japan's ability to defend ITSELF. If Japan were truly vulnerable to Chinese aggression than why is there NOT ONE proposal in Abe's legislative bills that includes beefing up Japan's military capabilities with either more hardware or troops buildups or both, NOT ONE!
Good thing you are not a high ranking official in the Japanese military! Those folks would be doomed! You have no sense of tactical military strategy what so ever. It's insulting as a vet to hear.
Japan and it's security pact with the United States is all that has kept Japan safe from foreign aggression and will continue to do so. No matter what, Japan will NEVER be capable of taking on China alone unless it's fertility rate jumps a thousand percent, it increases land mass to allow for the incredible population boom and Japan decides to have a nuclear arsenal that would make the North or China think twice and those are the cold facts.
Wrong again! It is most of the free world including Japan that has kept Japan safe. Even China Has allies, and would not attempt to go it alone with Japan. You wanna talk about fertility rate? How about the fact that china's population is also falling due to it's mostly male population? Proven fact. I have said it here before. "Quality vs Quantity".
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Now, under Abe, the only choice is between more and deadlier armaments and offensive reach, and much more of both. Collective defense would have Japan attacking and submitting itself to attacks in circumstances where it had not been attacked first and could have avoided hostilities. The principle that democracies should work together to face the threat of dictatorships is a linchpin of the post-World War II world order. And, so a coalition of democracies could be a more effective counterweight to China’s encroaching militarism? More effective to what?
More effective twords your personal freedom! Your right to choose whatever religion you hold dear. Your right to earn a fare wage. Your right to choose when to have offspring. Your right as a HUMAN BEING! Do you not see what China "the peaceful nation" has planned? Have you the slightest clue as to the plan they have for Japan, and eventually others? Unless the lack of freedom is your thing, I should think you actually want the rights you have right now. Like being able to post your opinion in these forums yea?
There are a lot of pompous butt heads here in the US that have an over inflated opinion, and try to dictate to others how best to live their lives. A lot of folks get upset by it, but the one thing any decent military personnel will tell you is that "We fight for the right of those butt heads to voice an opinion" That is freedom! Do you not know about Tibet? Tienanmen Square? Have you no idea who these folks really are?
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To usurp the Japanese Constitution in such a blatant and callous manner and simply out of a clear disdain for it, as Abe believes that it was thrust upon the defeated by the victors of WWII, is not only a violation of the 日本國憲法 but more importantly a violation of ALL generations of Japanese past, present and future.
Well given the regional situation, What else would you have them do? I would really like to see someone offer a viable solution. I'm betting that none of you has one...
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I feel most of you are blowing this way out of proportion. And most of you do not seem to know what your really talking about. So instead you offer straw man theories based on past events as if they are some sort of holy scripture. If we are to believe what your selling, then you must offer conclusive evidence. You cannot sway public opinion based on rubbish. Having said that, I will also point out to you that NO ONE in America cares. No really! They could care less. Unless they are of Korean or Chinese decent, and a few folks like myself.
This is what happens when you constantly pick at a sore though. (Talking to you Korea and China) It gets infected and thus, you have made it worse. I believe anyone with common sense can see this. This situation is now on the slippery slope, and it's just the beginning. All the crying, moaning, finger pointing isn't going to change it. It's a done deal. Secure. PERMANENT!
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It doesn't matter if china was in Japans airspace. What was that aircraft doing there in the first place?
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Now that is some serious "I really want it to be true" Fiction right there!!! I applaud you sir/madam.
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Once again you have wasted your time trying to convince me that china is the "Dudly Do Right" of asia. 3 Paragraphs worth of pinko propaganda. I am indeed a Capitalist.
From Wikipedia: The country is ruled by the Communist Party of China (CPC), whose power is enshrined in China's constitution. The Chinese electoral system is hierarchical, whereby local People's Congresses are directly elected, and all higher levels of People's Congresses up to the National People's Congress (NPC) are indirectly elected by the People's Congress of the level immediately below. The political system is decentralized, and provincial and sub-provincial leaders have a significant amount of autonomy. There are other political parties in China, referred to in China as democratic parties, which participate in the National People's Congress and the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC).>
So, There you have it. As to my being afraid of communist? It isn't fear. More like disgust. No man/woman big or small will EVER dictate to me how to live my life. The one life i have been given by whatever circumstances in our vast universe. I'll pray if i want to. I'll sleep with who i want to. I'll watch what i want to. I'll go to whatever web page i desire. MY LIFE IS MINE!!! It does not belong to ANY government. And i'll live it or terminate it as i see fit. So now you can either pretend to be ignorant as to why I added this last paragraph, I'm sure others know. Or we could just agree to disagree.
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I do enjoy these little spats now and then, but you are simply twisting historical fact. Trying to interweave the past ideologies with the present. It just doesn't work. They are indeed still communist with the guise of "fascism" They haven't evolved as much as folks would like to give them credit for. Same attitude, Same oppression, Same China!! Just with slightly more sophisticated weapons. They are a cancer that needs putting down for the greater good of humanity. And trust me, Someone is going to do it because the world doesn't have time for this kind of crap anymore.
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Wrong! They are not even close to "Fascist". They are Communist! They mean entirely different things. Completely separate ideological views.
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I hope your confusing Hong Kong with Beijing. Beijing IS Communist! Beijing runs the show in China! Not Hong Kong. So stop trying dilute the spirit of what those folks really are. You may take it down a notch however and deem them Socialist, But in the end they wind up being the very same thing.
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I Hope the Vietnamese stomp a mud hole in china!
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