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Posted in: Remain or leave? Carmakers confront hard Brexit choices See in context

@Kenji

Nobody in the UK talks like that. I think you've watched too many films.

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Posted in: Remain or leave? Carmakers confront hard Brexit choices See in context

@1Glenn

Firstly, the Government made it very clear before the referendum that if a majority voted 'Leave' or 'Remain', that is what would happen. Even if it were just one more vote than the other.

Secondly, after many thorough investigations, no evidence has been found of Russian influence on the vote.

Thirdly, voters in 1975 chose to join the EEC, not the EU. The public didn't change their mind, they simply weren't asked if they were okay with becoming part of a political union. The 2016 referendum was the first time they had been asked that question.

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Posted in: Japan wants frictionless UK-EU trade after Brexit: ambassador See in context

@CrazyGaijin

The Brexit referendum was not only very antidemocratic but also traitorous.

Cue John Cleese-style laugh.....HAHAHA....HAAAAA

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Posted in: Japan wants frictionless UK-EU trade after Brexit: ambassador See in context

Everybody wants frictionless trade, but the EU want it on terms so unacceptable to the British it's probably not going to happen.

I am very interested to see whether the bureaucratic elements of the EU or the common sense of European business will win out by the end of March.

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Posted in: IS teen 'shocked' after UK revokes her citizenship See in context

One of her answers in an interview was so bizarre. She was asked: "The head of the Foreign Intelligence Services in the UK says people like you are potentially very dangerous. What would you say to him?"

Her reply: "They don't have any evidence against me doing anything dangerous."

Most people (even the ones who are being dishonest) would say: "I haven't done anything" or "I am not dangerous".

Her answer gives the impression that she possibly has done something, but nobody can prove it. Just a really weird answer.

Also, people can inherit citizenship from their parents, just like British people who are born outside of the UK do. So, it's not unreasonable to say she has Bangladeshi citizenship.

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Posted in: UK politics fractures further as 3 Conservatives defect See in context

These three MPs are the epitome of self-serving. They all said they would respect the result of the referendum. Their own constituencies voted to Leave. They then stood for election in 2017 on a Tory manifesto that stated the UK would leave the EU, which entailed leaving the Single Market and Customs Union.

They claim that leaving is a huge mistake and a second referendum is now necessary because the situation has 'changed'. They have gone back on their own word, gone against their own manifesto, they have quit their party, and yet they refuse to hold by-elections so that their own constituents can have a vote. Absolutely hypocritical.

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Posted in: IS teen 'shocked' after UK revokes her citizenship See in context

Just remember....

British people who have gone to Syria to fight against ISIS have been arrested upon returning to the UK.

Whereas HUNDREDS of individuals who left the UK to join ISIS have been let back into the country without question.

This sends very mixed messages. And to add insult to injury, earlier this week, the head of the British police said that if this woman returned to the UK, she could expect a stern 'talking to' through questioning.

Is it any wonder people don't feel safe in Britain anymore?

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Posted in: Brexit accelerating Japanese exodus from UK: analysts See in context

@theeastisred

Of course Japan will choose the tariff-free option.

I didn't say otherwise. I am not talking about that. You have misread my comments again. I suggest you look at what I am saying instead of trying to disagree for the sake of disagreeing.

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Posted in: Brexit accelerating Japanese exodus from UK: analysts See in context

If Japanese companies are pulling out of the UK and moving to another country in the EU, you know it's because of Brexit. This would also suggest that they (Japanese companies) prize the European market before anywhere else.

However, if they are moving out of the UK and relocating to Japan, it's obvious that these companies don't need to be located in Europe, and their decisions haven't necessarily been made because the UK is leaving the EU.

These changes will have likely been made regardless. It also reveals the fact that the UK remaining in the EU wouldn't guarantee Japanese companies staying. 

Despite this, there are some who will scream "It's because of Brexit!" until they are blue in the face. I just don't think it's that simple.

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Posted in: Honda to close UK car plant in 2022 with loss of 3,500 jobs See in context

So after the Nissan decision to not produce the X-TRAIL in the UK story from the other week, I decided to do a little research...

Turns out the new trade deal signed between the EU and Japan means that it is now more cost effective for Japan to produce the cars in Japan and ship them directly to the EU. This is because of changes to tariffs.

Also, the amount of sales has slumped for certain car manufacturers over the last 5 years in the UK/EU. Especially diesel models. Again, this has been due to EU regulation.

Finally, a friend of mine who happens to work at the Swindon plant has told me the plant has been in decline for years and although Brexit will have been a factor, it still wouldn't have changed the outcome.

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Posted in: EU rebuffs May; says no-plan Brexiteers deserve 'place in hell' See in context

@Luddite

Yes, we do. Stop pretending you are an authority on the UK and the British people.

I am from the UK, Luddite.

I am sorry to disagree with you, but British people really don't often use the word "Briton" very often when talking about themselves. They are far more likely to say "British people" or "Brits". In fact, even in your own comment you chose the expression "British people". Some might try to use the word "Brits" in a pejorative manner, but the word itself has no negative meaning at all.

The only time we really ever use the term "Britons" is when singing "Rule Britannia", but as you know, that's not something we do even on a remote basis.

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Posted in: EU rebuffs May; says no-plan Brexiteers deserve 'place in hell' See in context

@BigYen

It's no problem at all. And you were right - I should have posted links to polls in my original post!

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Posted in: EU rebuffs May; says no-plan Brexiteers deserve 'place in hell' See in context

@smithinjapan

I've noticed you always say "Britons". Is there any particular reason why? British people don't usually use the word.

You voted for this stupid woman

No. In the UK, people vote for a party not PM. The vast majority of people don't want her to be PM (Including Tories).

you voted for Brexit

Yes.

Now you're getting exactly what you wanted

No we aren't. We are getting May's version of Brexit which just so happens to be "Remain-even-harder-than-EU-Membership."

racist cries for a "stronger Britain"

Sigh. Really? I mean, really?

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Posted in: EU rebuffs May; says no-plan Brexiteers deserve 'place in hell' See in context

@BigYen

Here is a comprehensive article from the Irish Times regarding all of the polling for a United Ireland:

However, all polls still show a border poll producing a majority in favour of the North remaining in the UK

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/polls-suggest-gradual-shift-to-united-ireland-1.3645214

Also, it is worth looking at the long-term trends. Here is the Wikipedia page with all of the polling data. Please note the "Northern Ireland Life and Times Survey" section. This poll has been conducted every year since at least 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Ireland#Assorted_opinion_polls

The last "Life and Times Survey" put support for rejoining the union at 22%. 55% support remaining in the UK.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-44468686

I had to laugh when I saw the "OFOC" poll. They are an extreme remain organization funded by the EU. Their one-off poll put 52% "Yes" for Irish Unification.

Finally, this a fresh article explaining why the NI Secretary is skeptical about holding an Irish Unity vote.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-47143679

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Posted in: EU rebuffs May; says no-plan Brexiteers deserve 'place in hell' See in context

@toasted

I think it's time you gave "The 6 counties" a rest. You are not from Northern Ireland. Regardless of how much people "will" it to happen, Northern Ireland will not leave the UK unless a majority vote for it

According to current polling:

Does N. Ireland want to leave the UK to join R.O.I? No.

Do a majority of people in N. Ireland want to hold a referendum on this issue? No. Not even close.

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Posted in: Nissan's second thoughts on UK-made SUV add to Brexit worry See in context

A couple of things to bear in mind:

First, as the article mentions, the X-Trail has always been produced in Japan. Nissan has simply decided not to start production of this model in the UK. So, no jobs in the UK will be affected, it's just that new jobs won't be created.

Second, Jaguar Land Rover's recent move to the EU had been planned and decided long before the EU referendum. After a bit of research, it actually becomes clear that Jaguar Land Rover moved to Slovakia because of EU state aid. Even if the referendum hadn't happened, they still would have moved.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/01/10/eu-rules-left-slovakia-free-entice-jaguar-land-rover-uk-110m/

What we're going to see now, is companies which have business decisions that were decided long ago, blame Brexit if they feel it will be unpopular.

As Jonathan Pie (Best Comedian out the at the moment) puts it: "Anything goes wrong, anything at all. Blame Brexit."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-x6Ct2OwOA

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Posted in: UK grocers, fast food warn of major disruption from no-deal Brexit See in context

@smithinjapan

There's always the option of not doing Brexit, like the majority of Britains now want, but nope... pride and all that.

Not true. Opinium poll from Jan 16-18:

Cancellation of Brexit: 20%

Go ahead with Brexit on the current timelines even if it means leaving with no deal: 40%

Delay Brexit: 20%

Even if we are generous and split the delay vote by 50/50 if that is not a choice, a majority still want Brexit.

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Posted in: UK grocers, fast food warn of major disruption from no-deal Brexit See in context

@Jimizo

I think the UK will be just fine. I would disagree and say that when push comes to shove, Britain is extremely good at adapting.

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Posted in: UK grocers, fast food warn of major disruption from no-deal Brexit See in context

This whole situation is much like the Millenium Bug. In reality, very little will happen. The British Media are trying their best to whip up hysteria so that enough people will be scared to change their minds. Not going to work. The pudding has already been over-egged.

Most people accept they'll be some disruption over the first few days and weeks, but must people understand that these food companies will also want to keep selling their products, and the companies themselves will do everything in their power to prevent any obstacles.

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Posted in: Sony to shift European headquarters from UK to Netherlands to avoid Brexit disruption See in context

I think some people have only just read the headline before commenting. As the artice says:

"the only change we will make is the change of registered location of the company"

This is a sensible move as the UK is leaving the EU. People would question the sense of the those running the business if they didn't do this. Some people who comment on these types of articles can't seem to distinguish between wanting sensible controls over immigration and having foreign companies operating in the UK.

@Kag

Dyson has moved to Singapore, not the EU. Kind of a big difference.

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Posted in: Brexit battle looms as UK lawmakers attack May's 'Plan B' See in context

@Scrote

EU army personnel of course! Macron and Merkel were signing a treaty yesterday to bring the EU army one step closer.

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Posted in: Brexit battle looms as UK lawmakers attack May's 'Plan B' See in context

Three things:

First, it never ceases to amaze me how many commenters who disagree with leaving the EU feel the need to call those that want to leave, "stupid".

Second, the EU has now said they will erect a hard border in the Republic of Ireland in the event of No-Deal. Varadkar is now starting to realise how little power he has over this situation, even if Ireland doesn't want a border.

Third, Queen Elizabeth has been drawn into this mess. Remainer MPs will try to force Brexit-wrecking amendments through parliament, forcing the the Queen to refuse Royal Assent if requested to do so by the Government. An extremely rare event (not happened since 1707), but now that the Monarch has been involved, it is highly unlikely that MPs who are trying to scupper/delay Brexit will be allowed to.

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Posted in: Despite Brexit, I’m proud to be a Brit See in context

Things Remainers say about Leavers:

They're xenophobic, uneducated, ignorant, ill-informed and they don't understand why being in the EU is a good thing.

Things Leavers say about Remainers:

They're undemocratic, dislike the working class, moan about losing the referendnum and they don't understand why most people voted to Leave.

I'd dare say that Brexit happened because of Brits who are proud to be British. They don't identify as European (culturally), and they don't want to be part of a European superstate.

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Posted in: UK in deadlock over Brexit 'Plan B' as May and Corbyn tussle See in context

I neither trust or believe what Tories say. I did my own research and came to my own conclusions.

However despite appearances parliamentary sovereignty has not been eroded as demonstrated this very week

If you believe that, no one will be able to convince you otherwise. EU law can be implemented with prior agreement from the British Government and without consent of the British Parliament.

pooling sovereignty with the other EU members’ has enabled the UK to punch far above its weight

Completely untrue. The EU ignores individual member state's concerns if they aren't in line with their own. The UK isn't able to trade in the way in would like to with countries from across the globe. Thus its hand are bound from even being able to attempt to punch in the first place.

The economic and political advantages have been demonstrated over the last 40 years, not least by growing from the 7th strongest economy on the planet to the 5th and it has not been held back exercising its military.

By leaving the ERM and by not joining the Euro. Two of the crowning acheivements of the EU. But still, remaining in the EU means you have to eventually accept the Euro.

I'm afraid to say that you have invested into the idea of the EU so much that you have to turn a blind-eye to points such as these. But, I appreciate that you do acknowledge that the UK has to sacrifice sovereignty to be a member.

Having trade deals and international agreements with other countries doesn't require you to surrender it.

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Posted in: UK in deadlock over Brexit 'Plan B' as May and Corbyn tussle See in context

@SwissToni

I find the following excerpts disconcerting:

"The more the Community is developed...the more parliamentary sovereignty will be eroded"

"The sovereignty of the State will surely remain unchallenged for this century at least"

If the entire project was so advantageous, why weren't they upfront with the public? Why was there any need to hide or obscure certain details from the people?

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Posted in: UK in deadlock over Brexit 'Plan B' as May and Corbyn tussle See in context

@zones2surf

I concur.

I would just like to add that the British people were never asked to hand over sovereignty to the EU. Edward Heath (Prime Minister during the Common Market Referendum in 1975) said that the UK would not lose its own sovereignty and that it was not going to result in political union.

A document written by the Government at that time called FCO30/1048 was kept secret for 30 years. It stated, facts concerning loss of sovereignty, monetary union and eventual politcal union should be kept hidden from the British public long enough so that they didn't realise what was happening, and it would be too late to do anything about it.

Whether it be the Conservatives or Labour, the British people have been betrayed again and again by the political class.

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Posted in: May seeks to end Brexit stalemate after winning confidence vote See in context

@Toasted

Only some of those who voted Remain are pushing for a second referendum. Many of the people who voted remain don't wish to see a re-run. So, I think it's fair to say that it is mostly the Establishment who are pushing for it.

@theeastisred

Leaving was decided in 2016. Despite people who oppose Brexit saying "people didn't know what they were voting for" and "we know so much more now", it has been decided.

There shouldn't be any talk of remaining. As has been pointed out here before, if Remain had won by even a single vote, there'd be no discussion about the possibility of having a second referendum with Leave as an option.

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Posted in: Brexit bedlam: May's EU withdrawal deal crushed by 230 votes in parliament See in context

@theeastisred

I haven't characterized anything. I merely repeated word for word what the poll said.

I wouldn't welcome a second referendum because of the following reasons:

It would irreparably damage the trust between the electorate and parliament

It will lead to civil unrest - No matter how much some who don't want to leave the EU say otherwise

If Leave wins again (which I believe it would by a much larger margin), the result still won't be accepted by MPs and people who don't want to leave the EU under any circumstances

If Remain won (again, don't think it would happen) by only a whisker, it would leave the situation unresolved. People would be demanding a 3rd referendum, the a 4th etc

It would need at least another 6 months, in the meanwhile, the debate becomes more vicious and toxic

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Posted in: Brexit bedlam: May's EU withdrawal deal crushed by 230 votes in parliament See in context

@theeastisred

You may consider No-Deal to be a dead option, but the majority of Brits don't.

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Posted in: Brexit bedlam: May's EU withdrawal deal crushed by 230 votes in parliament See in context

@theeastisred

The 8% for a referendum was on the question of remain vs deal

Can you tell me where is says "Remain vs Deal"?

It says:

"There should be a referendum on whether or not to accept the Brexit deal"

It says nothing about Remain being an option. How do you know that the referendum wouldn't be "Deal vs No-Deal?"

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