Just put everyone in a burquini, everone. Then no issues. While were at it, just eliminate telivising it, then no one is offended. No TV, no fans, no offense.
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So the US sends an unelected person, Poland and France send their leaders (minor countries don't count), and no other country sends anyone......... 15 out of 190 plus? Not a good look Japan.
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As far as logistics, the Pfizer has to be kept at -70C, so there is a logistical hurdle with that one (special refrigeration, not common). Moderna only needs -20C. Can be done at any hospital / clinic.
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It is true about getting vaccinated in the USA. Where I am at in Colorado, it's free and no insurance is required. Just show up with ID, get jabbed (Pfizer, Moderna, or J&J). If you get Moderna (what I got) or Pfizer, they immediately make an appointment for you about 28 days later. Drug stores, supermarkets, clinics, hospitals are all offering it. My Japanese wife just got her first Pfizer shot. Just a sore arm.
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So Wolfpack, does this mean we should shutter all businesses, avoid all social contact, wear masks and live in fear because locking down is the only way out of this? Vaccinated or not, you're a carrier of death. Am I understanding your logic on this?
So get vaccinated, but go back to being in a state of panic and isolation because, well, it's a virus. The ends do not justify your means. Vaccination greatly reduces the seriousness of the virus with less complications and deaths. The reality is we are going to have to live with this. It will not magically disappear if we just lock our selves in and wear masks all the time.
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The vaccines int he US are working. Yes, this variant is highly transmissible, however the real items to note are hospitalizations and deaths. Where vaccinations are low (under 50%), hospitalizations go up.
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There is not a new base being built. They are extending Camp Schwab. Ugh, the anti base faction at it again.
I do agree it would be very difficult for Denny to say to the populace that the "Americans have the vaccine, come to the bases and get it". The Ryukyu Shimpo and Okinawa Times would skewer him.
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I think it's a combination of people that have recovered from the virus, a +40% vaccination rate, and a very good above 65% at least one shot (from the two shot regiment). I think 80% in a combined fashion can happen by July.
How's Japan doing? Well, they need to hold more meetings, so a panel can recommend another round of conferences so the can decide to actually make a decision. I mean, they should have allowed someone other than doctors to give shots, approve the vaccines faster, and make a plan for mass distribution.
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Voice, how's your Mandarin? Just curious.
Honestly, I think the whole USMC presence could go. The AF and the little bit of Navy and Army could stay. That would reduce the burden and keep the US presence needed so you don't have to change languages.
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Here's the thing: I believe that a fair portion of the population on Okinawa (and not the flown in protestors) really don't see the American presence as good or bad because they have been there so long. Now, does this mean it's right? Maybe, maybe not. The Okinawan politicians just want the money but no Americans. Can't have it both ways. And if you think that once Futenma is shut down, the JSDFAF will be in there very quickly.
Just look at how long it took China to assert it's domiance in the Scarborough Shoals and Spratleys, and you see what not having a US presence does. The Philippines is not strong enough to defend themselves. The Us presence keeps Japan from losing out to the Chinese. The people who think that if America leaves there will be everlasting peace and nothing bad because it's just the Okinawans, then you really don't understand why the US is there.
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Nah, they are just normal every day working people that really don't care either way as it doesn't effect them.
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Voice, basically you advocate for the total removal of forces. I do not. There are a lot of expats that really do not understand the political/socio-economic/military reasons to have forces there. The economic is a small part. The thought of Japan rearming and becoming an offensive force makes sense on the surface, but is not reality. China would be on the island faster than you could drink awamori. And lastly it is not a clear majority of Okinawans that want the bases gone. The Ryukyu Shimpo and Okinawa Times are both in the bag for get rid of the forces but continue to pay the "omoiyari yosan". Every governor does this.
So, no LOL. It's not shut up. It's your supposition you speak for Okinawa and you don't.
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Voice: For once I agree with you. The above is very correct. And believe me, I do understand that the Okinawans got the worst of it. That is no joke. But today, the island can't survive on tourism alone. Having the US there does keep it free, but there's also the land issues and some crime (but never a real mention / comparison of the Japanese military and their crimes there. Of course any crime is bad, and there should be none.
So a combination of tourism, mostly service industry (because the agriculture and manufacturing there are really low), and the US military are the economy there.
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BurakuminDesToday 11:35 pm JST
Let the people be free and conduct business as they see fit.
Yeah right, because that policy worked so brilliantly in the US, Brazil, UK...
Sounds like you are simply parroting Trump and Bolsanaro.
And the US is at a nearly 40% vaccination rate, continuing to trend down in cases and deaths while Japan has their head buried in bureaucracy. And it was the Trump administration that got the vaccines going without the red tape. Japan continues to have artificial road blocks to getting the vaccine out to the public (no syringes, not enough doses, not approved in Japan yet, etc...). It's almost like a tragic comedy show.
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Voice, as I have said before you are no voice for Okinawa. My relatives there spoke of the horrors of the IJA and the fact they were committing horrible crimes against the locals, and it was the Americans that were good to them. Actual on the ground witness to the events of 1944. Not a political ideologue who thinks they are a shining voice for the people like you suggest to be. And from my small discussions with every day Okinawans, they are kind of ambivalent on the American presence. They know that a nice piece of the budget comes from Tokyo because of the US presence, and they know that is direly needed.
While I do believe that there should be a reduction, the bases are pivotal to keeping China in check. As you are currently witnessing in the South China Sea, if there is little resistance, China will take what is not theirs. This is why the US is there. The US has no reason to think that Japan will rearm and become a militant force. They have become beyond passive, similar to Germany.
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So how many protestors are from mainland Japan? Seems like the same sort come out for the protests, and it's not chock full of locals. With that being said, I do believe that the forces there should be reduced.
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Makoto ShimizuMay 9 10:40 am JST
Would Japanese government humbly accept vaccines from China? Due to the lack of vaccines over 10,000 people have died so far, millions got infected, lack of vaccines is strongly affecting the revenues of businesses and mental health of everybody. Prejudice against China should be put aside and consider their vaccines.
While this is a nice thought, I would not trust anything coming from China. They made the virus, and I don't think they did any testing that even remotely mirrors what Pfizer or Moderna did. I'm vaccinated with the Moderna vaccine. Almost no side effects, and even the second shot I only had a slightly restless night.
One million shots a day is great, but at a mass vax site only giving out 5000-1000 a day does not cut it unless they have hundreds of these places set up. The US has seen a dramatic lowering of the serious hospitalizations and cases because we have been able to get to ~35% vaccination of all people.
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So back when this all started, a lot of people were quite critical of the US response here on JT. Since then, the vaccinations started in November and a significant reduction in the CCP Virus has occurred. I find it very hard to believe Japan has not been able to get a handle on this.
Nearly 35% of the population is completed in about 6 months. 35% of 340 million people equates to about ~119 million people. Japan has a population of 120 million? Japan could be done by the end of the year if they really push for this, but a million shots a month won't do it.
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Aly RustomToday 07:52 am JST
Well that's rich coming from a country that has innoculated 1% of its population AND STILL insists on holding the Olympics.
Agree. In the US, if you are 16 or older, you can get the vaccine. That is now the only qualification. And just a hair over 50% of the country has at least one shot.
Japan can and should do better.
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You have to respect a country that wants to keep it's culture. By flooding your country with low wage earners (as stated above), enriching corporate big wigs, driving out natives looking for good work, you will reap what you sow.
@Jonathan Prin: Agree.
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I'm waiting for the police investigation, complete with a plastic sheet laid out with each karrage piece circled, fingerprinted, and catalogued.
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Where I live in the US, this state is starting to vaccinate anyone 16 or older (currently ~20%). So at least ~25% of the country is done..... We're getting there. But for Japan, it has been the increasingly bureaucratic system that has to get permission to have a meeting to plan a seminar to raise awareness then test before having a panel discuss the merits of a vaccine before doing their own trials.... Arrrgggggghhhh. The countries that are the most successful (as pointed out earlier), copy them. Wether it's Korea, UK, US, AUS, NZ. They seemed to have gotten this right.
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DocCarlosApr. 10 12:27 pm JST
Why not follow a real leader like President Joe Biden, VP Kamala Harris, Dr. Fauci. they got the vaccine to almost 200 million in 60 days. The Pfizer, Moderna and J&J have over a 90% efficy rate. Why has not Japan ask for their help to help the Japanese Pharmaceutical industry for a fee of course.
Till 80 -90 % of the populace the virus will not be controlled
Follow the USA and Canada measures as they are winning the war with the virus. over 25% of the USA are fully vaccinated since February and 40% or more have at least 1 dose.
The USA declared war and went into wartime measures to produce needles, vaccines and masks.
Actually, it was the deregulation under Trump that got these vaccines tested and approved, plus he even stated that 100 Million would be vaccinated by April. Currently 179M doses given, 68M fully vaccinated (~15-28% of each states population have been vaccinated). Not bad for being "wrong".
So if you read the link, all the MSM doubted this but where I live, this state is starting to vaccinate anyone 16 or older (currently ~20%). So at least ~25% of the country is done..... We're getting there. But for Japan, it has been the increasingly bureaucratic system that has to get permission to have a meeting to plan a seminar to raise awareness then test before having a panel discuss the merits of a vaccine before doing their own trials.... Arrrgggggghhhh. The countries that are the most successful (as pointed out earlier), copy them. Wether it's Korea, UK, US, AUS, NZ. They seemed to have gotten this right.
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Is this really a crime?
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I was of course thinking that, but was curious if there was something that I was missing. Maybe there's an "Australian Dr. Fauci" predicting doom and gllom? Or the government just wants control over the society a lot longer...... A hidden agenda.
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Seems like 2014 all over again. Democrat in the White House, and a Russian government willing to take what they want.
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So let me get this straight: The article says they have administered a million doses, and one person had a blood clot issue. So literally, it's a million to one odds of having this happen and they are stopping the usage? And they have had 30000 cases with 1000 deaths.
I'm not real good at math, but if you catch COVID there, you're looking at 30:1 odds of dying from it, but if you get the vaccination, you have a 1:1000000 chance of developing blood clots.
Someone help me see the Australian government viewpoint?
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I think the US is doing it the right way: You take care of your population first (as it was it the hardest by death toll, unless you count China and their "hidden" numbers). Now Japan waited way to long to study and approve any vaccine use, so they are to blame for their delays. But this is US leadership, working out with other countries a way ahead.
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I love the fact liberals here in JT utopia are trying to take this story and lean it towards things that are not associated with this new law: The US and those that are conservative.
Nice try. This is about a world leader that has his opposition poisoned. Please keep up.
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So digging just a little at the hard data means that adverse effects from vaccines are extremely rare. And with COVID, we just don't know if you catch it if you will fully recover, have a life long issue, or be completely healthy.
The COVID vaccines have been tested, albeit on a faster timeline, with the Moderna vaccine having a plus 94% efficacy. Which is far better than cathcing the virus and hoping for the best. 30000 people were tested. That is a nice sample size to actually draw conclusions from. And the serious side effect was at about .6%. Nothing fatal.
I think the anti vaxx crowd just needs to listen to the science (sound familiar), and understand that this is saving lives.
My second Moderna shot is next week. I'll let you folks on here know how that goes.
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