What, specifically, has Trump said or done that's racist?
This has to be the most bad faith post of the day. Myself and many other posters, over several years, on an often daily basis, have taken the time to read/watch/document the abhorrent racist comments/tweets/actions that Trump has said.
No matter how many examples that are posted, no matter how many times, a handful of disingenuous, dishonest posters will ignore and pretend that the man is not a racist.
And that's enough for now, I think, lest I waste any more time trying to argue with those who often post dubious far right links and voice their support for far right trash, not just in the US but in Europe.
TH has left the thread.
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It's revenge politics for the lower class who want to strike back at successful, educated liberals.
Do people still use terms like "lower class"? I'm sure you don't mean it, but it does sound a wee bit snobbish. Remember, education is often denied or made difficult to access for working class and marginalized peoples. Betsy DeVos being a notorious offender and appearing to have nothing but contempt for the peoples of the US.
You're absolutely bang on about the raison d'etre for some Trump supporters. As long as they're sticking it to the libs, even if it means cutting off the nose to spite the face. National security, unity, education, medical care, endless war, climate change... issues that should transcend mere party affiliations, are routinely trashed, as if it's some kind of game.
The sickening thing is, if voters were somehow unaware of the type of bigot, liar and charlatan they elected - they have no excuse, now.
Those hardcore that stick by the man and applaud his prejudices and lies - they are guilty of the same, by association. No matter what layer of the social strata they hail from.
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I would never vote Socialist....I mean, Democrat!
Trump supporters already have voted for socialism, witness the ongoing bailouts for farmers.
Some even avail of socialism in this country, in regard to medical aid.
Just goes to show how little they understand political ideologies.
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That you guys have zero answer, so let’s try again, why would or should Trump have ANY regret for what he did? I think it’s true myself or how the Democrats are acting, but then again, liberals were quite ok and dismissive about the baby Trump ballon. So I think neither side needs to feel sorry. Use your first amendment rights the way you see fit, you guys liked the baby Trump, many of us liked the photo or thought it was funny.
Still you can't condemn Trump's bigotry and your own.
And not everyone who stands up against this racist clown is a liberal or a dem, or even an American.
I will stick to my prediction that when the n-word tapes come to light, Trump supporters will defend that, too.
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Most Trump fans I meet are lower middle class losers who don't mind if the system implodes because it wasn't doing anything for them anyway. Might as well cheer for the racist.
To be fair to Trump voters, not all of them are racist. Some actually believed that change would happen and that it would benefit them. Unfortunately, the trickle down theory is a lie and none but the elite win.
As for class, the working class are always shafted, doesn't matter what party is in power and whether the working class are black, white, brown etc.
The elite promote bigotry because it keeps the people divided. If working class people of all colors, faiths and orientations every decided to come together to oust the elitists, that would be true progress and unity.
But it's very unlikely that lying, establishment billionaires who claim to be draining swamps can ever deliver. Instead, they use tried and tested trickery and grow even more corrupt.
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Young people are an automatic target for the disillusioned and cynical. Forgetting that they were once young, themselves and celebrated various events and milestones in their lives.
Congratulations to the young people, our future is in their hands and I wish them every success and happiness.
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I'd day best actor is a shoo-in. I don't really have a problem with that, his portrayal was at times, chilling, sympathetic, horrific and compelling.
It's just that the film itself was rather derivative, but then, aren't most films?
Transpeople and pansexuals also missed out.
Possibly, but given that you tend to indulge in trans-erasure, this makes your comment somewhat insincere.
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Did liberals condemn the baby Trump balloon?
Ah, the default answer. Thus, proving my point.
At least Trump supporters have come clean that not only do they support racism, but they're loving it.
They can't backtrack on that.
Nordham is still in office and the Dems revere people like the late Senator Byrd and President Wilson, so why support these noted, signed, sealed and delivered racists?
And what has this got to do with Trump's racist tweets?
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Very telling that Trump supporters cannot bring themselves to condemn the picture.
They'd rather admit to supporting bigotry and pretending that racism is a joke. But then, some of them have form for not only supporting intolerance but also promoting prejudice.
It's hilarious how the anti-Trumpers here go ballistic over a funny photo ( Tee hee! )
It's hilarious how the term "anti-Trumper" is meant to be some sort of insult. I'd wear it on a t-shirt. Rather be anti-racist than an apologist for it.
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Don't make claims that the system is against her when in reality it is just a handful of private individuals on social media.
It's not just a handful of private individuals. Piers Morgan and his pal Trump have both made disparaging comments towards her. These are public figures with a huge and unfortunately, influential platform where they can demonize anyone they don't like, without consequences.
And whilst no fan of the royals, I cannot recall such vitriol directed at Kate Middleton. Even the BBC were clumsy in reporting.
When news of his relationship with Meghan Markle became public, he criticised “racial overtones” in reporting. Last week, it emerged he had complained to the BBC for broadcasting and publishing online an image from a neo-Nazi social media site that called him a “race traitor” and depicted the royal with a gun pointed at his head. Although the BBC internally and the broadcasting watchdog Ofcom rejected the complaint, ruling that the use of the image in a report about the activities of the group was in the public interest, the BBC did apologise for not warning the duke in advance.
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And "race"? Aren´t they all caucasians?
Leo Varadakar, Kevin Sharkey, Samantha Mumba, Liz Bonnin and Phil Lynott and many more would disagree (if Philo was still with us).
The point is, Patel is pretending that the abuse is not racist, when it clearly is. And she's made racist comments about Ireland, without a clue about its history.
But most right wingers are not well versed in anything outside their own narrow confines.
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Then please provide evidence of the British media behaving in a racist or sexist way towards Meghan.
It's not just the media.
But anyway, again? Ok.
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Not him, her. But she doesn’t have a good history as a person, but yes, if Harry is happy, good on him, but her reputation as a decent woman is once again, crushed.
Always the woman's fault. Especially if she be strong, black and or progressive.
You be very hushed about your own home wrecker in chief. Very telling.
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The problem with those that say the "right-wing" media have made a racist and sexist hate campaign against Meghan, is that when you ask people who claim such to provide any evidence, they can't.
The problem is that the right wingers who support the campaign with every fibre of their being, tend to ignore when evidence is provided. They pretend it's not happening.
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Yes, so keep it and anything else, cut all financial ties
It's still not cutting any cords. It's money he inherited. Like most elite.
What a home wrecker this woman, no wonder no one likes her, disgusting.
Harry chose his wife over his gran. That's hardly home wrecking. Remind me, how many divorces has the current PotUS had & how many affairs?
Ah, but that's it. MM and Harry don't like Trump & there was no wedding invite. This is a source of ire for the American far right.
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"I wish I could say this was over, but we have a long way to go. We've got the smoke in our communities at the moment and it is at very poor or hazardous levels," Lisa Neville, Victoria’s emergency services and police minister told a media briefing.
It certainly is far from over.
So now that they are unable to say “now is not the time”, they have adapted. Rather than suggest no connection with climate change, they have shifted to arguing there is no connection with any particular climate change policy and bushfires. Scott Morrison argued last week on ABC’s 7.30: “You cannot link any individual single emissions reduction policy of a country – whether it’s Australia or anyone else – to any specific fire event. I mean, that’s just absurd.” Yes, it is absurd, because no one is actually arguing that.
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I hope the Queen cuts off all their financial ties, allow Harry to keep his inheritance, but other than that, cut the cord.
That's not really cutting the cord, though, is it?
His inheritance will keep them both comfy and secure, far beyond the rest of us mortals could ever hope for.
People who get inheritance know little of the hardships of real life.
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Opposition to Trump's recent activities in the Middle East is not the same as supporting and condoning the vile Iranian regime, and no amount of whining will ever make it so. It's a cheap jibe from a man who is master of little else.
Correct, Jim. It reminds me of this quote:
Although dictatorship despises the people, it takes pains to win their recognition. In spite of being lawless - or rather, because it is lawless - it strives for the appearance of legality. On this point, it is exceedingly touchy, morbidly oversensitive. Moreover, it suffers from a feeling (however deeply hidden) of inferiority. So it spares no pains to demonstrate to itself and others the popular approval it enjoys. Even if this support is a mere charade, it feels satisfying. So what if it's only an appearance? The world of dictatorship is full of appearances.
That's author Ryszard Kapuscinski, back in 1982 on the Shah. He knew a thing or two about dictators, did RK. And it can equally apply to the current US administration.
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When Jeff Zucker told his staff to create such a narrative.
That's not answering the question. Unless you worked for the man?
It's quite telling, in that case, that Trump supporters do whatever they're told. As mindless automatons, they parrot their master's increasing bizarre and unhinged rhetoric.
They swallow the lies and regurgitate. Doesn't matter how awful the lies or tweets are, whether it emanates from far right sources (that they've never heard of until Trump tweeted them). Anything goes.
And of course, they will not admit (or even comprehend why it is) that they lie. Instead the will point the finger of blame on others. Democrats, liberals, the media etc.
They will offer up strange and surreal excuses why they lie. And they will applaud the lies, however debased they are.
They will confusingly admit that they even love racism (on this very topic) because it's in circulation.
Wait until their dear leader's comments and use of the n-word finally come to light. Watch how they squirm and twist before eventually deciding that it's just a word and then blame someone else.
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In general, the Saudis hate the U.S.A. more than anybody. What does that tell you?
That the number one sponsor of terrorism and defiler of human rights will continue to be feted by the US govt because, at the end of the day, it's all about money. The 3000 people who died on September 11th will be dismissed by supporters of both immoral regimes as victims of "friendly fire" or something equally disgusting.
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Too late, it happened, can’t undo the poster or the circulation. Love it.
I'm curious. When did Trump followers decide that truth isn't important anymore?
That the most important thing was to lie to the people?
Ironic, isn't it, when you see what happens in Iran when the people have had enough of their government lying to them?
And this is after just one particular lie (or not being honest upfront).
Imagine if Americans started an uprising against their lying government.
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The great liar lies again. And his supporters lap it all up. For them, truth is an inconvenience, something to be manipulated and bypassed.
He is succeeding he needs to continue to push the youth of Iran to oust these mullahs with their violence and bigotry.
He doesn't need to do anything except stop interfering. The people will triumph, be it over the regime in Tehran or Washington.
Remember how Washington supported the brutal and bloody rule of the Pahlavis? How thousands upon thousands were massacred, how Savak made thousands go missing, or tortured them? How students were regularly beaten and shot at for protesting?
Nothing but silence from the hypocritical US politicians back then.
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The establishment didn't care for Dodi Al Fayed, either. I'm no monarchist, but I wish the papers and pundits would leave the kids alone.
Priti Patel and other right wingers are pretending it's not racism. Patel would know, given her insensitive and bigoted comments about Ireland.
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First this, then on to talk about a drought. Hilarious!
Deniers not known for their consistency or intelligence.
But they are known for linking to conspiracy theorists...
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But whether he is or not, his case still serves as an example of how Japan's judicial systems needs some pretty major shoring up if it's to be brought up to modern international standards of human rights.
Aren't you in favor of the death penalty, though?
Makes little sense, in that case, talking about human rights...
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Am bored with the concept of another elitist and possible criminal being immortalised in the cinema.
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Climate change has nothing to do with these fires,
So say the modern day equivalent of the flat earthers.
However, scientists stress that while many sources may ignite fires — including arson — climate change is a major reason why recent the blazes in Australia have been so destructive. “There are now disingenuous efforts to downplay the clear role of climate change in worsening the intensity and severity of the Australian fires, or to blame ‘arson’ as a way to distract from the growing threat of climate change. These efforts should be called out for what they are: gross climate denial,” Peter Gleick, a climate scientist and co-founder of Pacific Institute in California.
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Fact is, nearly EVERYONE's getting richer. I don't see a problem with that.
Everyone meaning the elites.
I see a big, big problem with that.
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