Fantastic! Time to see some real data! We are going to be a lot wiser from this.
I hope JT will follow up on this story. I'm guessing NHK will probably not cover it ...
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HBJToday 05:35 pm JST
If we are in a SoE then how on earth can they justify only testing 2,684?
I know it was a Sunday, but emergencies don't operate by the calendar.
I see some people trying to pass off the high positive rate by saying 'it's because they only test people showing symptoms'. Well, how many people with symptoms didn't go to a hospital on Sunday BECAUSE they thought they won't get tested on a Sunday? How many people with symptoms couldn't get tested because their symptoms weren't enough to qualify for a test?
I'll say this until I'm blue in the face - the only way to truly know the extent of the virus and how it is spreading is to test shed loads of people. Not just people whose symptoms meet a strict threshold decided arbitrarily.
If you have absolutely no idea how many people are infected, then you can't make effective plans to stop it spreading, and it'll just spread more and more.
That's not to say that huge numbers will die. But some will. And because it was allowed to spread, some people will die who should never have caught it.
I agree. But another very compelling reason to test a large amount of people is to know whether any measures designed to reduce or limit the spread is actually working... Nobody wants the SoE to go on for longer than it has to, but without proof in data, the leaders can do whatever the want without being held responsible. Their dreams of Olympic gold are still alive and well it seems....
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ZorotoToday 06:14 pm JST
You are right at some level, though what's important is how many people are dying and whether the healthcare system can cope with the cases.
As far as deaths: In the top of the 1st wave, the highest 7-day daily average was 23 on May 4th. Right now, we are at 32 and climbing.
As far as the healthcare system: In many places, as you surely have heard, it is crumbling due to lack of doctors and nurses.
Hmm I don't really agree with this view, Zoroto.
The hospitals don't have to treat anyone who has not tested positive. So the burden can be controlled easily by limiting the access to testing, which is exactly what's happening in Japan.
The number of infected people hospitalized with severe symptoms in Tokyo is 59, one down from Tuesday, health officials said.
This number is so ridiculous that I almost cannot believe it. It's just so unlikely low.
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The Japanese government said Friday it will lift coronavirus-related re-entry restrictions on foreign residents from Sept 1, citing increased testing capacity at airports
Does this mean that arriving passengers will be tested regardless of whether they have a negative test result with them?
If so, and if they positive in the airport, they're deported?? That's insane. This has only become more uncertain than it was before...
Also... getting tested with 72 hours of departure, obtaining the result, then having the test result verified by a Japanese embassy or consulate is improbable.
Not worth the risk or stress at all I'd say.
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Earth to Abe, Earth to Abe....
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The Japanese Forrest Gump?!?
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Suga, you don't get it, old boy. Asking and urging is too little too late. April/May was the chance you had to put together a sustainable plan while making testing available. What a mess we're in.
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Forcing us to pay for something we don't need and don't want during a time when funding is needed elsewhere says it all about the truth of this mask program. Just one corrupt thing on a never ending list of scandals.
I do not agree that LDP's response to this pandemic has been off the mark, because it was never intended to be on any mark. It was intended as yet another opportunity to steal taxpayers' money for those self-serving criminals in power. Meanwhile Japan is sinking into deeper depth. The political leadership in this country is toxic.
What baffles me is why there is never any push back from the people or the opposition? Why are people not taking it to the streets?
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It is this restaurant:
I know this place and heard the explosion :(
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Iwate on the board with two cases today.
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I'm very proud of this girl! ^^
It is not easy at all for young people to question the established ways in Japan because of how change resistant it often is. I wish the education system here would encourage it more. A lot of people would probably consider her non-compliant and trying to stick out.
A future where crackers crack.... shocking lol.
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Number of in-patients in Tokyo have increased by 40 % between July 13. and 21. Number of seriously ill is still low but has increased by 100% in the same period.
The medical system could collapse in less than a month at this rate if nothing is done and people continue careless behavior.
I suspect the situation has never been in control in Japan but rather masked by extremely low levels of testing and fuelled by a hasty and uncoordinated re-opening.
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yoshisan88Today 12:44 pm JST
So are you suggesting that all the mask wearing, social distancing and other precaution measures are just a waste of time, money and efforts? My immune system can fight off any virus. Why are so many people are either close to fearmongging or treating the whole thing like a joke?
That's great. I hope you are ready to quarantine for weeks on your own expense if you get infected or are you going to pass it on to somebody else?
Also fyi, the reason why even some young people die from this virus is because the immune system overreacts in a so-called cytokine storm. We know that this virus is very aggressive and has the capacity to infect all internal organs and limbs at the same time, which in some individuals creates this response.
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This discussion needs to be about more than just death rate. Even people with mild symptoms may suffer long-term dibilitating effects. There's a bunch of people here acting as experts yet the story about this disease is still being written:
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This is what you can expect from a government whose direction contains no contingency planning and decisions are made based on wind direction and dice rolls rather than sufficient amounts of quality data. The reason why this initiative has not been dropped already is probably the huge loss of face it would result in for the politicians. The coronavirus policy in Japan is pure PR.
Japan deserves better I think.
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Shameful. Hospitals and their staff are the first ones who should have received support as early as February or March. They get nothing while Abe and his fellow crooks are busy stuffing their pockets with taxpayers' stimulus money.
Why do these essential workers during a pandemic get nothing? And where is Kato in all of this? Haven't heard from him in months.
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I wouldn't get to wound up by the high rate of positives in this testing sample.
After all, these are people who walked into a testing facility thinking that they may have been infected.
Getting tested in Japan is not one's own decision. You need the blessing of an official in one of the government's "health" centres. You cannot just walk into a white tent like in other countries.
A large portion of recent confirmed cases are among workers in Tokyo's nightlife. This is because these places are targeted for testing so everyone in the establishment is tested.
Don't get wound up, but be alert and take precautions.
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It's concerning how the government's manipulated testing scheme is being used to promote whatever policies they feel like putting forward. Grabbed more or less out of thin air when in reality the virus is everywhere, hmm....
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So today's agreeable, family friendly number in safety Japan is 75!
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To those knuckle heads still calling it a flu:
Does the flu result in permanent loss of smell and taste in 10 % of cases with such symptoms?
So far reliable data from reliable Germany suggest a mortality rate about x4 the flu and a higher rate of infection. Still something most would people survive for sure, but we don't know much about long term affects.
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If they need to declare an emergency to shut these damn nightclubs down then they should get on with that NOW. Its idiotic for the whole country to be exposed to a potential outbreak just so some 20 somethings can go out and party.
Surely the virus does not only exist in certain districts of Tokyo between 10 pm and 5 am. But it has become the narrative due to the targeted testing in these places. As long PCR is not subsidized and those to be tested are decided essentially by the central government, there is some reason to be skeptical.
Anyways, from now on I think it is going to be a balance of what can stay open and what will have to close again until a working vaccine is distributed. Highly doubt that Koike is going to shut down everything again even if things worsen significantly. Hoping for more transparency (of which there is almost none atm) so I could at least make informed decisions myself. I'd rather 'know' than 'believe'.
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The article mentions increased testing, but as usual the number of tests performed is missing. What are we to gain from this arbitrary number?
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Great! If the truth is too inconvenient or "uncomfortable" as stated by an LDP lawmaker, let's ignore it so we can continue do to nothing.
The government looks more and more like a "CCP Light" except it is doing a worse job of hiding its incompetence. LDP running this country is like dogs flying a plane.
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Alarming lack of leadership
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Tokyo has said it could re-impose restrictions if the figure crept up to 50 or more - something that last happened on May 5.
Well there they have it.
Coincidentally, May 5 was the day the nationwide state of emergency was extended until the end of May with the reason given as " to ease the strain on the country’s medical system".
Shall we expect clinics and hospitals shutting down en masse again rather than treating patients? Surely Super Stimulus Abe has made sure this won't happen ...?
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The travel restrictions had already been lifted for other parts of the country.
There were restrictions?? :o
I thought the Tokyo Alert was lifted a while ago, although not even sure what that means.
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27 vs 48? These numbers don't mean much anymore. Yesterday the number was higher was because one random establishment in Kabukicho was picked out for comprehensive testing. That's one bar responsible for a doubling in cases nationwide. It tells you that the number actual cases, asymptomatic included has got to be many, many times higher. We are being held in the dark for various reasons. 48 vs. 27 in itself is not representative of any trend.
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