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Posted in: South Korea initiating WTO complaint over Japan trade curbs See in context

@showchinmono

You reference an article by Kono Taro, the very same man who once told reporters that individual’s right to claim was not terminated by the 1965 treaty after SK’s Supreme Court ruling in 2018 but then later backtracked and told reporters that individual right’s to claim have expired, the very same man who was once pro Korean who hired Korean secretaries to practice Korean but after joining Abe’s cabinet he became an ill-mannered tough-spoken non-smiling anti Korean to save his job (unlike the defense minister who was sacked for smiling in a photo shoot with his Korean counterpart), and the very same man who spoke against the ideologies of nippon kaigi in his early days but then adopted those ideologies of the old man’s club his new boss was part of. In other words, he has no credibility and respect whatsoever, and represents a part of Japan’s attempt at historical revisionism.

Regarding Roh, you and the Japanese media use your statement to try and absolve the previous stance of the Japanese government but fail to mention that Roh also said as part of that statement that the 1965 treaty did NOT cover illegal actions, comfort women, Sakhalin Koreans, and victims of atomic bomb. The Supreme Court ruling was for inhumane acts on forced laborers, ie. illegal actions.

Unfortunately, the way I see this is that Japan has no ground to stand regarding this issue. If it went to arbitration Korea would win with a 99% probability. 1% loss is due to potential bribing of Japanese officials. It’s unfortunate that Abe has promulgated this propaganda to such an extent that if it ever went to a verdict, Japan’s ego and credibility will be severely bruised.

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Posted in: South Korea initiating WTO complaint over Japan trade curbs See in context

@showchinmono

...you are making yourself look ridiculous. Don’t you get it yet?

Quite the contrary. You don’t seem to comprehend fully what the following says that makes you look exactly like what you accuse others.....

"It was the official view of the Japanese government in the past, that (forced labor issue) was not finally and completely resolved by the treaty," he said.

He and your past governments never said...

The ones who want to claim, just go straight to SK government. That’s how it works.

You can ignore Hatoyama all you like, but you can’t ignore comments made by other previous governments.

PS

On the contrary, your ex-president

Don’t automatically assume he is my ex president just because I support Korea on this issue. I will support Korea when it comes to history revisionism, environmental protection etc. and support Japan in other areas. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate Japan, I’ve just seen too many cases to know very well that hypocrisy and bullying tactics are commonly used against other people and nations, and will support the victims of such tactics.

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Posted in: South Korea initiating WTO complaint over Japan trade curbs See in context

@AlexBecu

The 1965 aggrement to normalize relations is the foundation Japan and S. Korea build its relations after past pain and grievances. 

It's time for S. Korea to take a step back and keep its promise to normalize relations. You broke the 2015 deal, if you break the 1965 deal what Trust is there to sign any other agreement with Korea?

Another day, another person blindly following another one of Abe's fake propaganda. I’ve posted this comment from ex PM Hatoyama before and will post again for latecomers like you. The problem with your comment is that all your previous governments admitted that individual rights to claim were not extinguished by the 1965 treaty. It is the Abe government that has back-flipped on this issue.

"The Japanese government should go back to its judgment that as for the issue of laborers, the individual rights to claim damages were not completely and finally resolved in the 1965 treaty," said Hatoyama, who served as prime minister in 2009-2010.

Hatoyama said that Shunji Yanai, then director of the treaty bureau at Japan's foreign ministry in 1991, told a parliamentary session at the time that the normalization treaty did not put an end to individual rights to damages.

"It was the official view of the Japanese government in the past, that (forced labor issue) was not finally and completely resolved by the treaty," he said.

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Posted in: S Korea formally asks IOC to ban 'rising sun' flag at Tokyo Olympics See in context

So many Japanese posters here complain about the Koreans objecting to the use of the rising sun flag in the west, yet the same Japanese never complain when they vociferously object to Koreans installing comfort women statues in the west. Talk about hypocrites.

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Posted in: Japan wins partial WTO victory in S Korea duties case See in context

The dispute is over the South Korean side 'misunderstanding' the meaning of the agreement which neutralised any future legal action in 1965. Repeated requests by Japan to honour the 1965 agreement and have the forced labour legal action rejected - on the grounds of that agreement - went ignored.

You don't seem to realize that you are blindly following another one of Abe's fake propaganda. I’ve posted this comment from ex PM Hatoyama before and will post again for latecomers like you. The problem with your comment is that all your previous governments admitted that individual rights to claim were not extinguished by the 1965 treaty. It is the Abe government that has back-flipped on this issue.

"The Japanese government should go back to its judgment that as for the issue of laborers, the individual rights to claim damages were not completely and finally resolved in the 1965 treaty," said Hatoyama, who served as prime minister in 2009-2010.

Hatoyama said that Shunji Yanai, then director of the treaty bureau at Japan's foreign ministry in 1991, told a parliamentary session at the time that the normalization treaty did not put an end to individual rights to damages.

"It was the official view of the Japanese government in the past, that (forced labor issue) was not finally and completely resolved by the treaty," he said.

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Posted in: Seoul, Busan pass bill to boycott 'war crimes' Japanese firms See in context

So here's the thing for all you confused people, and I don't blame you given that Abe and co continuously change narratives depending on the situation.

This dispute between Korea and Japan started when South Korea's Supreme Court ordered Japanese companies to pay damages to forced laborers. The decision for individual rights to claim for these damages is permissible as it was not covered by the 1965 agreement, and this has also been the understanding of all the previous Japanese governments. However, Abe has back-flipped on this by saying that individual rights to claim for damages has already been settled by the 1965 treaty.

So, Abe asked Moon to go to arbitration, but Moon declined saying he could not interfere with the judicial rulings. So Abe decided he could force Moon to overturn the Supreme Court's rulings by restricting exports of key supplies needed for the semiconductor industry and produce uncertainty in the economy. Abe stated that this 'export restriction' was a retaliation against the Supreme Court ruling.

So when Korea said they will raise this with the WTO, Abe realized Japan would lose so he quickly changed narratives to 'Korea didn't respond to consultative requests' and then finally to 'national security reasons due to loose export controls'.

Now, the fact that Abe tried to retaliate via economic means for a historical issue instead of solving it diplomatically, caused massive uproars in Korea, escalating into boycotts, withdrawal of GSOMIA, and now this. Koreans were living their ordinary lives as usual until Abe's error in judgment (which according to some Japanese newspapers he has admitted internally), has altered Koreans to lose trust in Japan.

Moon offered several olive branches to resolve it diplomatically, but Abe has refused. I think both are stubborn, but I wouldn't blame the Koreans for bringing up the past. It's Abe's back-flipping and poor decision making that got both Korea and Japan into this mess.

Abe is hyper concerned about the Supreme Court's ruling rather than the comfort women issue, because the former has the potential to blow out significantly and set precedence across all over Asia.

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Posted in: Seoul, Busan pass bill to boycott 'war crimes' Japanese firms See in context

I don't want to defend Japanese excesses here, but Koreans tend to put this fictional rosy glow on their past, as though they were a successful and prosperous kingdom until they ran into the Japanese.

I've never met any Korean who said their country was a prosperous kingdom prior to Japan's annexation. What they will tell you is that Korea was poor but were in the process of pursuing reformation just as Japan started 30 years earlier, and such reformation did not require colonization by Japan, just as Japan didn't need America to colonize it in order to modernize. The problem here is that the Japanese will always glorify (or justify) their annexation saying that they did it to modernize Korea, when in fact it was to rape Korea from its natural and human resources to aide its imperialist ambitions.

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Posted in: Seoul, Busan pass bill to boycott 'war crimes' Japanese firms See in context

Japan's position is that it extinguished rights of all individuals to compensation with regards to the Japanese occupation era, while SK's position was that the treaty was between the two nations and not about individual claims.

Actually, It’s not Japan’s position, but Abe’s position. I’ve posted this comment from ex PM Hatoyama before but will post again. Previous governments of Japan all admitted that individual rights to claim were not extinguished, It is the Abe government that has backflipped on this issue.

"The Japanese government should go back to its judgment that as for the issue of laborers, the individual rights to claim damages were not completely and finally resolved in the 1965 treaty," said Hatoyama, who served as prime minister in 2009-2010.

Hatoyama said that Shunji Yanai, then director of the treaty bureau at Japan's foreign ministry in 1991, told a parliamentary session at the time that the normalization treaty did not put an end to individual rights to damages.

"It was the official view of the Japanese government in the past, that (forced labor issue) was not finally and completely resolved by the treaty," he said.

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Posted in: Seoul, Busan pass bill to boycott 'war crimes' Japanese firms See in context

Fair enough. This is also what happened in Israel where Israelites boycotted German companies and products. Even today, top selling cars are all Korean, not German. Only after continuous apologies by the Germans have Israel slowly started to open up. We don’t hear the Germans whining about this and saying the Jews are childish. The Japanese?

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Posted in: Japan protests Putin message celebrating new factory on disputed isle See in context

Ouch! Abe brown noses Putin and gets nothing in return. Ditto with Trump. Abe bullies Moon and gets whacked. Inept leadership at its finest. Maybe he’ll get lucky with Xi.

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Posted in: Abe urges Putin to fulfill 'historical duty' to sign peace treaty See in context

Agree, Abe seems to be reneging on the SF Peace Treaty

Seriously, Abe is the king of reneging treaties. Last week, ex PM Hatoyama-san made the following statements in Seoul.

"The Japanese government should go back to its judgment that as for the issue of laborers, the individual rights to claim damages were not completely and finally resolved in the 1965 treaty," said Hatoyama, who served as prime minister in 2009-2010.

Hatoyama said that Shunji Yanai, then director of the treaty bureau at Japan's foreign ministry in 1991, told a parliamentary session at the time that the normalization treaty did not put an end to individual rights to damages.

"It was the official view of the Japanese government in the past, that (forced labor issue) was not finally and completely resolved by the treaty," he said.

Seriously how does one put on a straight face and lie non stop?

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Posted in: Under-fire lawmaker hits back at criticism over S Korea war remarks See in context

*Yes he once was the PM of Japan for 9 months or so , a historical  inextinguishable fact of NIGHTMARE of Japanese history. You know, however, this Loopy himself is not a treaty binding two nations. You should just laugh him away as a shame of Japan, but should see how generous Japan as a country is, ignoring and letting a lunatic do as he likes. No ones, no ones care about him in Japan.*

Typical. Excuse after excuse after excuse after deny after deny after deny. Next it will be blame after blame after blame.

Whether he was in office for 9 months is irrelevant. You missed the important bit where Japanese governments prior to Abe all held the position that individual claims were not settled by the 1965 treaty.

Seriously, why does Abe and co lie after lie after lie. The truth will eventually come out and this will be one hell of a bruising for your egos. You might as well stop the lies now and act honorably, you know, like a real adult, instead of a petulant child.

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Posted in: Abe urges Putin to fulfill 'historical duty' to sign peace treaty See in context

Japan and Russia had a neutrality treaty. Russia cancelled the treaty and declared a war on Aug. 9 one week before Japan surrendered on Aug. 15. This is a nasty thing.

So when Japan attacked Russia three hours before it actually declared war on Russia in 1904, that isn't nasty? Why is it always nasty when Japan is the victim, but when Japan is the aggressor it's okay to bully the victims? Do you guys have any sense of moral conscious?

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Posted in: Abe urges Putin to fulfill 'historical duty' to sign peace treaty See in context

Japan signed that "Peace Treaty" as an Occupied (non independent foreign policy) Nation. Thus, null and void.

Interesting how some people say null and void for treaties when it comes to Japan but when it comes to Korea, the Japanese say otherwise. Rampant double standards and blatant hypocrisy.

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Posted in: Under-fire lawmaker hits back at criticism over S Korea war remarks See in context

It hasn't. The agreement simply calls for these frivolous lawsuits and absurd judgments to be that of the responsibility of the Korean government.

You should refer back to statements made by your ex-prime ministers, not the revisionist statements made by Abe. Even last week, Hatoyama-san made the following statement in Seoul.

"The Japanese government should go back to its judgment that as for the issue of laborers, the individual rights to claim damages were not completely and finally resolved in the 1965 treaty," said Hatoyama, who served as prime minister in 2009-2010.

Hatoyama said that Shunji Yanai, then director of the treaty bureau at Japan's foreign ministry in 1991, told a parliamentary session at the time that the normalization treaty did not put an end to individual rights to damages.

"It was the official view of the Japanese government in the past, that (forced labor issue) was not finally and completely resolved by the treaty," he said.

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Posted in: Under-fire lawmaker hits back at criticism over S Korea war remarks See in context

In 1965, after 14 years of hard negotiations, Japan and South Korea concluded the “Agreement on the Settlement of Problems concerning Property and Claims and on Economic Co-operation between Japan and the Republic of Korea.” Under the terms of the 1965 Agreement, Japan extended $500 million in grants and loans -- a sum that totaled 1.6 times as much as South Korea’s national budget then. All problems concerning claims between the two countries and their nationals were confirmed to be “settled completely and finally.”

Among the eight items in the “Outline of the Claims of the Republic of Korea against Japan” that were raised during negotiations, “accrued wages of the requisitioned Korean[s]” as well as “compensation of damages by war to the requisitioned Korean[s]” were included. The Agreed Minutes to the 1965 Agreement clearly state that the claims that were “settled completely and finally” included any that fell within the scope of these eight items.

I suggest you listen to one of your compatriot posters here on this site who previously admitted that individual rights to claim haven't been terminated by the 1965 agreement. Better still, maybe you should research your government's position prior to Abe's regime, which was consistently of the position that individual rights to claim haven't been extinguished.

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Posted in: Letter threatening to hunt Koreans sent to S Korean embassy in Japan See in context

Seems like the protesters in Japan are more like terrorists who resort to making threats with bullets and fax machines.

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Posted in: Woman arrested after bodies of husband, daughter found at home in Fukui Pref See in context

Tragic. Is the rate of filicide higher in Japan per capita than other countries?

Maybe. But Japan definitely has by far the highest psychiatric care requirements per capita in the world. Maybe it's related to this.

Poor girl. I will pray for you.

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Posted in: 17-year-old boy found hanging in classroom in Gifu See in context

RIP boy. I'll be praying for you.

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Posted in: Japan briefs diplomats on Fukushima plant's radioactive water See in context

The water has been treated but still contains some radioactive elements. One, tritium - a relative of radiation-emitting hydrogen - cannot be separated.

So why does this report, or TEPCO, or the Japanese government not mention anything about the other radioactive elements apart from tritium which TEPCO recently admitted they failed to remove? Why is the Japanese government always hiding things? So dodgy.

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Posted in: Lawmaker who made Russia war remarks suggests same with S Korea See in context

SK and Russia both seized the islands in question when Japan was not in able to defend itself. This guy is an idiot, but he does mention an inconvenient fact. Those islands were taken by military action, and it would be difficult to regain them by anything less.

You should go back and learn the correct history, not some distorted Japanese right wing fiction. ROK was even’t formed when Japan surrendered Liancourt Rocks as part of its surrender agreement with the US under SCAPIN 677. Also, Japan lost the war to the allies so Russia owns the Kurils, just as Japan would have owned Korea had Japan won the war. Don't be a hypocrite.

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Posted in: Lawmaker who made Russia war remarks suggests same with S Korea See in context

Maruyama is being stupid by stating a full-scale war soon between SK and Japan is the best option to recover this Japanese Territory. Japan would win convincingly with the strength of her Navy, but there would be casualties on both side.

The neighboring countries have every reason to whine about Japanese attempt to revise history. Look at the damn country. It produces supremacists who never learnt from the past, and don't even know the dangers of wars. Coupled with people believing in fake propaganda such as the strength of its navy, you are bound to have a group of people convinced that they can start and win a war. And, this is just one person who spoke out. Imagine all the other people who think the same as Maruyama but are currently silent on the matter.

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Posted in: Lawmaker who made Russia war remarks suggests same with S Korea See in context

"Do you think there is any alternative to war (to regain control of the islands)?"

He later retracted and apologized for his remarks......

Well, that's a typical example of Japanese politicians backtracking on apologies. He’ll repeat this action for another 52 times and the Japanese posters here would say he’s said enough apologies. Seriously Japan, an apology is not lip service, and is definitely not what you say when you get caught for your crime.

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Posted in: Japan, S Korea agree on need for dialogue to repair frayed ties See in context

Through the ongoing dispute with SK, many Japanese have learned for the first time how different Koreans are from them.

As if Koreans were ever considered similar to the ‘superior’ Japanese. With all the best selling anti Korean books in special sections of bookstores (mind you, the only country that brazenly has a section dedicated to hate books), the Japanese have always believed Koreans are very different.

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Posted in: S Korea calls in Japanese diplomat over plans for Fukushima water See in context

@kwatt

If you do believe Japan demanded Soviet give full apology, please show us any evidence that Japan did it. No doubt S Korea did it.

Which part of I lived in Japan do you not understand? I was privy to all the news there. Go to your nearest library and look up archived newspapers. It ain’t digital era back then.

You really seem more pathetic.

Good, at least you acknowledge you are one. As for me being ‘more’, we know that’s one on your stubborn excuses.

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Posted in: S Korea calls in Japanese diplomat over plans for Fukushima water See in context

@kwatt

First you say Japan would never seek an apology because it wouldn’t have made the accident situation any better, then you say Japan wanted enough information which was only provided at a far later date, then you say Japan wanted to help the Soviets, then you say it was South Korea that demanded the apology because radiation reached Korea.

Dear oh dear, excuse after excuse after excuse. One thing is for sure, this mentality has not changed since the 80s.

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Posted in: Less bluster, but no compromise seen as S Korean, Japan ministers meet in China See in context

@AviBajaj

Exactly assembling parts together isn't technology nor innovation sk will soon learn its only a matter of time

SK seems to have learnt that a long time ago as they have been ranked the most innovative country for 6 consecutive years already.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-22/germany-nearly-catches-korea-as-innovation-champ-u-s-rebounds

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Posted in: S Korea calls in Japanese diplomat over plans for Fukushima water See in context

@kwatt

This is a big lie because an apology would have not made accident situation better. Japan wanted enough information of the accident soon at that time, but Soviet did not release enough information soon to the world, but it released much latter.

So according to you, you only ask for an apology to make situations better? Pathetic. I hope this is only your thought and not representative of the Japanese people.

And for the record, I was living in Japan when this happened, so I know this incident very well as some of us expats were very concerned, given all the hype in the media.

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Posted in: S Korea calls in Japanese diplomat over plans for Fukushima water See in context

@saitamaliving

The article describes and Tepco admitting the problem of not thoroughly cleaning the water yet (because of probably five solutions still being discussed).......

There you go, downplaying the incident again. Do you really think “failed to remove the dangerous radioactive contaminants” and “not thoroughly cleaning the water” are the same? The former implies that they attempted to remove the contaminants but failed. Also, most disposal options require the treatment of the contaminated water first. It’s not like that they have to decide on the disposal method and re-start the purification process thereafter. Further, you have the issues of limited storage space and the re-purification expected to take several years. It’s not all that hunky dory like you make it out to be.

But then again, you have so much faith in a government that is not being transparent about the whole thing at all, not to mention that they even manipulated (lowered) the “safe” radiation level to encourage people to return to Fukushima. Then you have an organization like TEPCO that has taken 7 years to admit that it had failed to decontaminate the water, 8 years to fix this issue, and still even to this date, cannot even decide how it will handle the contaminated water.

The Korean government has every reason to raise a legitimate concern to the Japanese ambassador, especially when Greenpeace (one of the NGO's you referred to) informed Korea during their recent visit that Japan’s intention is to dump the contaminated water imminently due to cost and convenience. Yet, you lambaste this as “Japan bashing”. Then you had the audacity to ramble on about how you were concerned about the radioactive fallout. So when Korea is concerned, it's bashing. When you are concerned, you're proud of such fact. There's one word for that double standard - hypocrisy.

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Posted in: S Korea calls in Japanese diplomat over plans for Fukushima water See in context

@ Alexandre T. Ishii

I can't understand why S. Korea to complain many things and coming to this Fukushima nuclear power plant destroyed by that earthquake and Tsunami.

Where in the article did it say Koreans were complaining?

I think so many Japanese people here have such a victim mentality. When the Chernobyl meltdown occurred, the Japanese government demanded the Soviets give a full apology because the radiation reached Japan. When it comes to Fukushima though, you now complain that neighboring countries can’t raise concerns about radiation being purposely dumped into the ocean, let alone provide apologies to affected countries just as the Japanese had expected apologies from the Soviets. Talk about hypocrisy!

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