Agreed, move to 2022, or even 2024.
I just can't believe they are already planning for the Olympics (again!) while we are in the midst of a serious pandemic.
It's getting more and more unreal each day, like we're in the Matrix or Wonderland.
I really hoped they would concentrate on the issue at hand following the postponement, but no, they insist on bringing it up again and again when we still have absolutely no idea how things are going to pan out.
Koike, please concentrate on saving the people of Tokyo from this mess you caused and stop acting like a spoilt child.
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Meanwhile, Tokyo is testing for COVID-19 at a rate of 150 tests per million people which is substantially lower than the 215 test per million people rate that the whole of Japan is currently testing at.
Good information ! Can you post the source?
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Was thinking exactly the same. It's like the coronavirus stats and other stats here. Always seem to be manipulated.
That's impossibly low.
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If the Japanese had collectively put as much energy into containing this outbreak from the beginning, instead of being so fixated on the Olympics and getting 40,00,000 tourists here this year, we wouldn't be nearly in the mess than we are in now.
Now is time to pull together and take responsibility to solve this issue. The longer one keeps one's head in the sand, the worse things will get, and that seems to be the path people here have chosen to take. I think that's the wrong choice.
Once this outbreak is over, let's then discuss the Olympics and strategies to entice the tourists back.
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Hopefully she's right and it's over soon and we can all enjoy the Hanami next year and hold the Olympics in 2021.
Meanwhile, Trump is saying it will over by April, and then Americans can get back to work.
But I don't think politicians should be making such sweeping statements.
In reality, i's just going to run it's course, unless of course we get a vaccine (but it may all be over before a vaccine even comes online).
But what about the experts? They don't agree, but some are saying it may take up to two years.
There are still too many unknowns.
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@gary I was actually leaning toward a sea route. Thought they might bribe some smugglers or other vagabonds but then I did some searching and found it's actually a lovely place with awezome beaches and stuff so it might be best to stay put. And only 72 Coronavirus positives in the entire country. Better than many alternatives!
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They utterly messed up the handling of the Diamond.
They have screwed up entire handling of the crisis so far and let it virus run rampant throughout Japan.
And a long list of other things.
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@Gary. As there are few flights in or out, probably a sea route, or perhaps overland to somewhere with more flight options is preferable? I highly doubt there will be a Japanese government sponsored rescue mission to Cote d'Ivoire to evacuate just 10 citizens. Whatever route they decide is best, they are probably going to have to pay some serious bribes.
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Well those that left Japan to travel for leisure within the past six weeks should NOT ask for help; companies who sent employees overseas should PAY charters themselves to get them back.
I myself cancelled two overseas trips because of this, one in February and one in March. It's called criticallly analysing the situation and taking responsibility for YOUR own actions. The writing has been on the wall since at least mid-January.
It's ridiculous that many people, even now, seem to be flying out of Japan for all sorts of selfish reasons.
All non-essential travel to/from Japan should have been BANNED at least a month ago.
Japanese people: YOU need to take responsibility. YOUR government doesn't care about you.
It's just utterly unbelievable how their had been a total of a sense of crisis here until the DAY AFTER the Olympics were postponed.
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From the article:
wash your hands, wear masks on public transportation to be considerate of others and avoid contact with the elderly and others vulnerable to the pneumonia-causing illness.
How is "being considerate" to others going to stop the spread? And how do you avoid contact with others in some of the most densely populated cities in the world? Wearing a dust mask on public transportation will reduce its spread???
Good luck, people of Japan!
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Are you talking about those dust masks? It's an issue and I fear it's getting to the stage where you'll be looked upon with disdain if you don't wear one when out and about.
Remember they do nothing to actually protect you from catching the virus. A dust mask only reduces the chances of the wearer from spreading it. You could just use a scarf or bandana.
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On January 16, the first case was confirmed in Japan. On January 21, the first case was confirmed in the US.
Niether country took testing seriously. From day one it should have been: test, test, test. Isolate poaitives, and trace any contacts. Then test, test, test. [Keep repeating].
This needs to be done from the start of the crisis, with the appropriate measures put into place like happened in South Korea, for example.
Politely asking people nicely to refrain from going out for a weekend NOT going to stop this.
My guess is that the authorities here are just using this weekend to begin work on the lockdown logistics.
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Dude [Kato] what rock did you crawl out from under? We’ve known this for the past three months. We’ve just been waiting for the Olympic to be postponed so we could have the actual numbers.
This is a repost from me about what Kato said about a week ago:
When you have people like Kato, the head of the Ministry of Health saying he hasn't heard about drive through testing before, and might consider it, if it's appropriate for Japan, it makes my blood boil. He should have been onto it months ago. I wonder who is briefing him.
And this from the Ministry of Health:
"Just because you have capacity, it doesn't mean that we need to use that capacity fully," health ministry official Yasuyuki Sahara told a news briefing on Tuesday. "It isn't necessary to carry out tests on these people who are just simply worried."
You just can't make this up!
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Well, a good comparison is NYC. They began testing and found their first case just three weeks ago. We know what happened there.
And just heard the BBC interviewing Japanese Director of Institute of Population Health at Kings College in London about the Japanese response (rough transcription)
Q: Why do you think there were not enough tests? Was it they were concerned about the Olympics ?
A I don't want to buy into that theory. When comparing, testing per head of population Japan is far behind that of South Korea and other countries.
Q: How do you account for that?
A They are expanding testing but capacity but the pace is behind
A: I don't know that.
Q: They are asking people to stay indoors at all cost in Tokyo and other cities. Can a weekend quarantine make a difference?
A: I am worried. It is time to get serious and think about social distanceing and potental lock down of entire cities.
You people who keep saying there is not going to be a crisis, really really need to get serious and consider getting out of Tokyo soon if you are in that area.
This has been brewing for months and months, just like it had in NY and elsewhere.
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Most Japanese people I know, and polls will confirm, don't trust the government at all. The issue is that they are taught from a very young age to follow authority without question and to not challenge it. The just resign them to the fact that that is the way things are. Kind of fatalistic.
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Just repeating the numbers.
Hopefully it's wrong, but we will see in just a week or so. If the numbers continue to climb over the next few days, then it's time to panic and get out of this metropolis like a few other commentators have been saying.
I just don't see it turning out well, and neither do the authorities, or, it seems the people of Tokyo, as is evident by their increasing sense of panic.
Remember the laughing Americans from a few weeks ago? Or the Spanish/French/British who ignored the warning signs?
It's a mistake to think it won't happen here, especially since there is uncontrolled community transmission.
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They are going to have a very important role to play as the UK government just announced they are turning the London Excel Centre into a field hosptial, with the initial 500 beds coming online next week. There will be a total of 2 wards, each with 2000 beds, and also 2 morgues on site. And, they are planning up to a total of ten temporary hospitals in the UK.
Japan, take note.
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An expert was saying on TV this afternoon that only 1800 artifical respirator equipped beds exist in the whole of Japan. It won't be very long until they are at capacity. They are looking more and more worried now. The government is finally taking things seriously now, but it will be too little, too late. Tokyo is just 10 days away from a NY situation. They have even been comparing it on the variety shows. That is why people are panic buying.
Don't think it won't happen here? Look at some examples of where they tested extensively, and isolated people early on.
HK, Korea, Singapore, Germany
Look at where they locked down early:
China (after a bad, bad start) Australia, NZ.
Look at where they pussy-footed around and left things way too late:
Italy, Spain, France, US, Japan.
You can see where this is going!
And what does Tokyo have in common with NY? Many people coming and going and congregating together in close quarters, a lack of testing and people who just ignored the great and continued on as usual.
Within days, Abe is going to implement that new law that allows him to lock the entire country (or parts) down. They are already discussing it.
The only way to stop this is to trace all cases, isolate and then fully lockdown when the time comes, so that you may flatten that curve.
But they should have done this week's ago, similar to some of the countries I mentioned above.
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So it was a dead cat bouncing!
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Does the request from the each of governors of Kanto region not to go out over this weekend unless due unavoidable circumstances, include supermarkets?
This should be clarified since at the moment, people are assuming it does, and aren't taking chances.
I was caught in this mess this morning.
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It is NOT exponential.
Exponential is like 2-4-8-16.. .Like that.
My understanding of exponential growth is the increase of something at a consistent rate.
Watch, "Arithmetic Population and Energy" by Al Bartlett. He gives an example of bacteria, doubling in numbers at a steady, fixed rate in a finite environment, and the consequences.
It's on YouTube.
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peeps, get out and enjoy the spring! Outside! One meter apart. Cough on your elbow and wash your hands frequently. Don’t touch your face. Limit contact with old people.
get out and have fun. 24 hour.....
Where do to live? In most big cities in japan it's impossible for people to go out and practice social distancing, due to the population density. And tell me, where would they wash their hands while outside ? And, avoid old people? How? 1-3 are old. Cough in your elbow?? Well, if you have a cough, it is the height of stupidity to be outside at the moment. Infact, everybody just bloody stay inside for a bit. It's the only effective way to get the RO of this thing down to less than 1.
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I don't have anything to add. For once, we are all in agreement.
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Sellers had marketed the development, which comprises 23 tower blocks capable of housing up to 12,000 people, as "the city complex where everything begins" with views of the ocean, Tokyo Tower and the metropolis' glittering skyline.
No thanks. Can't see what people see in this. Japan, you have a severely falling population and almost 15 percent of your housing stock is empty. Most places outside of Tokyo are in a deep sense of decay, and it's only accelerating. Mitigating and eventually solving this issue should made urgent national policy, with a focus on encouraging people to move back into the regions and implementing plans of revitalisation.
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Well, it should be held in 2022 at the earliest. Even commentators last night on TV were saying that we have no idea when this pandemic will end and that it is far too early to rush this through now with the real possiblity that this crisis won't be over by then. Nobody knows when this is normalcy will return, so let's all calm down, let the virus runs it's course, and only then, think about the Olympics.
Japan: relax, calm down and take care of your people first! The Olympics is not going anywhere.
IOC/JOC: Make a date in 2021, and you face the prospect of wasting more money/time, all for nothing. And you will look even more foolish than you do now.
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She's testing the waters. It is mostly young people who are out and about on weekends. She's hoping they will get the message that this is serious.
Doing it on a weekday won't make any difference since everybody at work or school.
I'm guessing this is just to get people in the right frame of mind before the coming lockdown. It will also make it easier to call it, since the excuse will be that people didn't listen and continued to go out when asked nicely not to.
The lockdown is probably coming.
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I've been telling everyone to wear masks and be careful for two months now,
Dust masks (p95 or better is different) don't work to project you from catching it?
But you should wear at least a dust mask or bandana when around anybody else since it will reduce the chances of YOU from infecting others. If EVERYBODY wore a mark or bandana equivalent, it would make a difference.
During this crisis, I think that you shouldn't be even allowed outside without one. It also means you're not going to get punched in the face because people feel nervous just being around a maskless person.
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My understanding of Overshoot = inability of hospital infrastructure to handle a sudden increase in admissions.
I.e. a sudden increase in patients overwhelms the hosptial system.
Agreed, this katakana nonsense has to stop. And, as you can see, we don't even use it in English!
Who makes these things up?
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