Txrogers comments

"So the unvaccinated represent 90% of those dying, but very few have worms. Well, having worms while dying would be embarrassing."

The numbers you're using come from the early data when vaccinations just started. They are regurgitated and outdated. Get up to speed.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/nearly-60-of-hospitalized-covid-19-patients-in-israel-fully-vaccinated-study-finds.html

Boosters every 3 months until you roll over.

Tylenol was never authorized to protect against the irritation of braying jackasses.

But it has worked extremely well for decades. Thank goodness.

@Resident. Your question was answered but it looks like you missed it. Typical.

"Yes, that truth is that some people don't understand the that the purpose of getting immunity is to avoid the risk of infection in the first place. Once again some people don't see the contradiction of saying that getting a limb amputated protects the person from losing that limb later."

Read the links and data before commenting is my advice.

virusrexToday  08:41 am JST

No, one thing is that all vaccines in use are much better than not vaccinating, another is to baseless clame one vaccine is "better" just because the technology used on it is older

Another baseless infomercial.

You would think the government would focus on early treatment methods to prevent people reaching the "oxygen station" (which is one step closer to the grave)?

You have to give them credit though. When the nation decides to collectively go over a cliff, it's always government approved.

Australia government is either grossly incompetent or corrupt.

You forgot to mention severely obtuse.

Talk about a country run by "wheel chocks"

“There were two things that came through very strongly from the leaders. One was that this pandemic has a while to run and that there is significant work by all of us to be done, and it needs to look beyond our domestic borders,” said New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who hosted the informal retreat.

And what is this all significant work that will be done?

Let's hope it doesn't further add to the damage already inflicted.

Virusrex: Your a bit of the mark with why the Japan government went with pfizer. The reason is Time and Olympics.

On the subject of weak minds......

Fortunately that is not the purpose of neither, lockdowns buy time to get the population immune, and vaccines reduce the risk until there is no need to treat COVID any differently from other infectious diseases that are already controlled, the problem is not with the measures but with people that like to imagine fake purposes and then complain how these imaginary goals are not reached.

But unfortunately lockdowns don't work. Why don't you take some time and examine the data?

And apparently, neither do the vaccines either.

Despite boasting higher adult vaccination rates than any other developed nation, Israel is scrambling to stanch a resurgence of new COVID infections after the country's top scientists revealed that they believed the Pfizer vaccine is only 64% effective at preventing infections involving the Delta variant currently stoking problems across the globe.

Just last week, Pfizer and its partner BioNTech announced plans to seek approval for a "booster" dose, provoking a rare, and surprisingly adversarial, response from the CDC and FDA. The two government agencies warned that there was presently no reason to believe that a "booster dose" will be necessary.

So much for "science"...

The four -- two Britons and two Americans -- were arrested between July 3 and 5, but have denied the allegations, according to the police.

How can that be? I thought coke-heads always told the truth.

Losers

No emergency. No urgency.

Tiny sensors incorporated into wearable fabrics like masks and jackets could provide instant information on exposure to disease-causing pathogens such as the coronavirus, according to research published in the journal Nature Biotechnology.

What kind of instant information, and why are fabrics optimal?

If you want to study if a virus is in the air, then test the air.

So when the inevitable vaccine passport is introduced, will people inoculated with AstrraZeneca be able to travel freely with it? Taiwan/Pacific Islands/others who are given donated vaccines: say, "No". It is not worth it if these vaccines are treated differently depending on where you are.

People will unlikely be able to travel freely anyway. The "vaccine passport" is a scam and will not be relevant come next flu season and vaccinated people come down with Covid again.

Then the tune will be "vaccine booster passport".

And the sheep will follow.

Maybe you should read the article again.

OK - I read it 5 more times.

It still states: "Product name / price: "Carrot cake" Hall type 12.5 cm pound type, ¥3,240 (including tax)"

Maybe you can share with us what makes this all so sustainable? I suppose the cake grown in the daily trash is more sustainable and cheaper?

¥3,240 (including tax) for piece of carrot case. There is nothing sustainable about that.

"Everyone is only paying attention to when their vaccine shot appointments will be."

Anyone with a bit sense would even care.

"So when you can't prove any of your points your resource is what exactly?"

He sure has proven a lot more points in his arguments than you.

"Again, nothing says so, there is absolutely no reason why generic boosters can't be easily produced, giving exactly 0 profits to any pharmaceutical companies. "

Not true. Ever heard of patents?

Most businessmen have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97CfZ0tixqM

"These are good results that increase the flexibility of the inoculations without a sacrifice in safety, which ends up increasing also the public health and economical recovery around the globe. It really takes a lot of negativity to criticize the scientific community for knowing more instead of feeling glad the vaccines can be safely and effectively used even when mixed."

From someone that admitted that these vaccines were experimental only a few weeks ago, after saying they were fully tested. Not true. And rebutted by saying that it make no difference.

How can "without a sacrifice in safety" claim be made. It's ridiculous. Having data and analyzing it establishes safety. Not gathering it. Feeling glad about participating in an experiment gathering data is even more ridiculous and unscientific.

Now the story goes that it's perfectly normal to experiment on people to get data that the companies cant get themselves by taking more time with testing. And we should all feel glad. Sounds a lot like amateur hour talk.

Honestly, all these alarmists on here having the vapours over side effects that are either minor or a far more remote possibility than anything that might happen to you if you catch Covid.

How about the alarmists having vapors over Covid-19. I had it. And like 99% of other infected people, it was nothing.

Now I’m told that if I don’t get vaccine, I could die. Of what?

The one trying desperately to avoid addresing the point would not be me, why do you quote the main point that makes your reference irrelevant if you are going to ignore it anyway? Vaccines are obviously not being forced by a town offering them, and most importantly the people vaccinated are not participating in any experiment, the vaccines are being used for their protective, therapeutic value, which makes the Nuremberg code irrelevant."

Don't you even recognize the answers that are to the points that YOU brought up. The answers are powerful and you may not have not noticed, but they have selectively undermined your credibility and arguments.

The more you respond the more of that comes out.

Nobody said vaccines were forced on the town. Just you. Coercion is a powerful tool when government pushes things. Especially Japan.

You state that people are not participating in any experiment, after been caught telling people for ages that these vaccines were not experimental. So how would you know?

Doc didn't want to talk about Nuremburg codes. You did. Doc simply corrected your errors again.

And just because YOU don’t know that something bad could come out of an experiment process doesn’t make you free of guilt. That’s why criminal negligence is a crime.

This whole “vaccine” drive is overblown. And the narrative and incentives behind it all should be scrutinized.

Workplace inoculations, travel restrictions, and probably next are our schools and our next-to-no risk children.

Vax fanaticism and unsubstantiated claims seem prolific.

https://youtu.be/Aw3AbbEYpi0?t=1121

There is no pandemic for certain demographics.

And there is no need to innoculate children with experimental medicines.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1105162/japan-patients-detail-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-cases-by-age-and-gender/

Protect the ones that require protection. Something that government consistently neglects to do.

Tests have shown the vaccinations reduced the chances of catching the covid and passing it on by more than 50%.

That they do. In the short term, I wouldn't be surprized if they even excel those numbers. In the absence of longer term testing, that's about all we can claim.

I recall the days when Big Pharma first pushed opoids as non-addictive to solutions pain relief. In the short term, it worked out well.

I really have no reservations on what people choose to take as medicine. It only concerns me when I see everyone singing from the same hymm book based on certain narratives. And that I must take an experimental compound to save me and the society around me from an illness that i had previously contracted and recovered from without hardly even noticing.

As I said, if it relieves your concerns please take your jab and be content. And allow others to make their own decisions when they are good and ready.

And again you keep making the same antiscientific mistakes, what things the CDC say that are against the consensus of science. In reality they are just repeating the same thing that every other important organization are saying, but since you don't like the scientific conclusions your exit is to misrepresent on single example as if it were alone in what it says. In reality you just cannot accept what science in general have concluded as correct

Don't you understand this simple premise? The science that you reference are from sources that cannot be trusted. Period. And we will soon see to what extent.

At this point both opening or keeping closed the economy are decisions that cannot be taken only on scientific knowledge, because there is not enough of it.

For someone that keeps expousing facts, it seems you are a little shy on ones that have a real impact. But the fact is, the decisions are being made. And they are destroying businesses, livihoods, and probably additional lives as a result of diminished services during ill-concieved lockdowns. Based on your thesis that leadership is about making decisions. Except for one caveat: Leadership is about making informed decisions.

A decision has to be made anyway, so that is what is being done, there is no problem with recognizing this, maybe this is something new for people that are used to their leaders lying about their decisions but scientifically speaking this is not justified.

OK - Back to science again, are we? I propose to think twice regarding "science" that I believe is inconclusive. " Anybody involved with science even on an amateur level should understand the huge difference of giving a recommendation that goes against scientific knowledge (something you have not provided) and giving a recommendation in absence of scientific knowledge."

Lol

Readers can judge the science of the CDS based on their activities. They are politicized government body that has wandered far off a health science mandate.

https://www.hklaw.com/en/insights/publications/2021/03/two-federal-judges-declare-cdc-eviction-moratorium-unenforceable

The CDC reference links are nice. But they are not trustworthy. As with the “Science” teacher

And like the “Science” teacher being charged with incompetence and possibly criminal negligence.

https://news.knowledia.com/US/en/articles/fauci-s-failures-pile-up-republican-introduces-fired-act-fauci-d69f6daa3a460e94cbd6636ad3c22980970d311

Dear Virusrex. I did not suggest that Covid is not dangerous. There are millions of people dying every year from “dangerous “ causes.

I am not afraid of any of them because that’s all part of life.

I am debating your obsessive insistence that these expedited vaccines represent a logical end to a hopelessly mismanaged situation. At least at present time. I hope that experimentation leads to progressive and positive results. But it should have a measure of personal choice if doubt exists.

You will soon find out how dysfunctional and broken some of the institutions you reference for your data sources really are.

By all means pursue what you think is best for yourself. But I caution you to always question what you have posted as conclusive data. You may get a rude awakening.

Big news, science is self correcting and not immobile, if the evidence contradicts a previous conclusion then the conclusion will change, this is normal and desired.

Except under one condition: When the evidence was actually available a long time ago. And it was kept secret to push another conclusion.

“Correcting Science” is a bit disingenuous when it gets caught in the act.

As for Fauci, we will see how science treats his “scientific” methods.

But thank you for the words of wisdom nevertheless. I enjoy the levity.