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haoushokuhaki

Talk about exaggeration. I looked into the Yahoo sport's articles you mentioned and could only find 1 criticism per 100 comments. And most of the criticisms probably came from bitter Japanese users. Good for Mao for winning the gold, but she still has a long way to go before she can hope to match the success of Yuna.

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@kavikahi

What are you babbling about? I have no idea what the heck you just said. I would love to "argue" with you, and prove you wrong. Unfortunately, I have no idea what exactly you are yammering about. And did you just accuse Yuna of bribing the judges? You truly are a sore loser.

@Cleo

The Olympics still is and always has been a place for amateurs, with the possible exception of certain sports(Hockey, figure skating, snowboarding etc). In which case, those pros face other pros. The US and Canadian Hockey team both used pro NHL players.

The vast majority of medalists in most other sports are relatively unknown.

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Posted in: Japan won 5 medals at the Vancouver Winter Olympics. How would you assess the results? See in context

Can't give you any links, sorry; it was on telly a few mornings ago, and again this morning. They said Japan spent 27 hundred million (27 oku) yen supporting sports; S Korea and the UK spent I think it was 120 oku apiece; the US was 150/180 oku (can't remember exactly) and Germany was 258 oku.

I've been hearing that same excuse coming from Japan for days. And it only sprang about due to Japan's dismal performance in the Games. Assuming the numbers are real, 27 hundred million yen = over 30 million US dollars all focused onto a handful of athletes. Thats still several hundreds of thousands of dollars per athlete. Are you telling me that Japan would have beat all other countries in total medal count if they spent 270 Oku rather than 27? Would the extra funding have magically turned snow boarder Kazuhiro Kokubo from a badly dressed punk kid who came in at 8th place to a guaranteed gold medal winner? Would the extra funding have magically let Mao who is already a millionaire beat Kim?

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If Woods was a football/basketball player, he would be praised.

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Posted in: China wins women's short track 3,000-meter relay after S Korea disqualified See in context

did I write that? No I did not, FWIW I watched it live and at the time thought, wow that was dodgy and suspected the Koreans would get Dq-ed and they did, there was no travesty in the decision, I dont think it was a bad call, so there in lies the difference. The ref is a skating expert, he knows the rules much better than you or I. Had it truly been a horrendous call like the bribery in ice skating affair I would have had some sympathy for them. moshio7, nice post champ, top quality.

The ref you are talking about was suspended for 2 years due to incompetence. Hes back and judging again due to his connections. I am not making this up. Please tell me what exactly South Korea did to warrant a disqualification. There was no push, no intentional trip or hint of malice towards the Chinese players. The Chinese skater tripped on her own after she stepped on the Korean girls skate.

Heres the official NBC replay of the incident.

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/assetid=658d3158-d8ce-4195-87ae-dc238d19e7c0.html#expert+analysis+short+track+day

No push. No trip. It was entirely the Chinese girls fault.

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Posted in: Kim Yu-na wins figure skating gold with record score; Asada 2nd See in context

I pity those of you who believe the the scores were fixed. Truly pitiful of you.

Yuna had the harder program(level 60) and she did it without a single mistake. Mao had the easier program(55) and she still made a couple of mistakes. Quit being sore losers and just accept that Mao lost to the better skater.

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Posted in: China wins women's short track 3,000-meter relay after S Korea disqualified See in context

The Korean skater did not push the Chinese skater. Look at the following replay.

http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/assetid=658d3158-d8ce-4195-87ae-dc238d19e7c0.html#expert+analysis+short+track+day

The Chinese skater nearly fell because she stepped on the Korean girls skates. If anything, the Chinese skater should have been disqualified for attempting to trip the Korean. Needless to say, this is one of the worst calls I have ever seen in my life. On the bright side, im pretty sure the decision will be reversed because of how obviously bad the judging was.

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Posted in: China wins women's short track 3,000-meter relay after S Korea disqualified See in context

Heres the video of the incident. Watch 0:20-0:24 for the supposed foul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA18lHtmGHE

I still don't understand why the Korean team was disqualified.

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Posted in: S Korea-Japan territorial dispute flares up again See in context

Which I answered in the above.

You really dont understand do you?

And your Louisiana example is a joke because nobody is claiming Louisiana.

The jokes on you for taking the Louisiana example at face value. It was only an example. The example applies to this situation. If I claimed Louisiana, then the US government could simply ignore me because they control the territory. All cards are on their deck. I have nothing to offer them. Much like how Korea controls Dokdo and can simply ignore Japan. The ICJ excuse has been refuted already.

Japan can whine all it wants but in the end the territory will remain Korean while all Japan can do is whine to the ICJ. Speaking of the ICJ. If Japan is so obsessed with the ICJ, then why dont they go to court with China over the Diaoyutai Islands? Is Japan being a hypocrite here?

And no. Not crying at all. Like I stated in the previous post, I'd like the Koreans annual finger chopping/feather beating harakiri blood bath demonstrations. It shows their character. It shows that "Korea does care" what Japan thinks.

Well then, sorry to disappoint you but there hasnt been any finger cuttings as of yet. Disappointed? Well you should be, cause the Korean side still has a big fat flag planted directly on the island right in Japans face.

Too bad for Japan and yourself huh? Cant get the island. Cant get the natural resources. And now cant even get a good finger cutting. I guess Japan loses out yet again.

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Wrong answer. Its because Korea owns the islands. All playing cards are on Korea's deck. If Korea doesn't want to go to court, then too bad for Japan. The island cannot become officially disputed if Korea doesn't acknowledge Japan's claims. Japan can cry about the island all they want. But its ultimately Korea who decides what the status of the islands are. Japan should just learn to deal with it. The ICJ is a horrible excuse that doesn't work. If Japan wants to go to court, it needs Korea's permission. And quite frankly, Korea simply does not care about Japan and its claims. So please quit bringing up the ICJ excuse. It doesnt work.

This is no different from me claiming Louisiana belongs to the republic of Vg86 and demanding the American government go to court over it. The American government would simply ignore me because all cards are on their deck. They control Louisiana, I dont. Much like how all cards are on Korea's deck with regards to Dokdo. There simply is nothing to gain in going to court. Its a huge waste of time.

However, if the American government for some odd reason did agree to Louisiana being disputed and decided to go to court. Then America is giving up ALL rights to Louisiana. America is giving up sovereignty and administrative rights to Louisiana by acknowledging the territory is neutral/disputed territory with no sovereignty. In doing so, Louisiana no longer becomes American. Once you give up territory, you cannot take it back so easily. At this point the Republic of Vg86 can refuse to go to court and Louisiana will remain a disputed territory for both nations to farm/fish/hunt in. Which is pretty much what greedy Japan wants with Dokdo. Mineral, fish and territory.

In any case, Dokdo is Korea. It will remain Korean. And its status as a soverign/disputed territory is ultimately up to Korea. Japan has no power or say in this matter. Too bad Nigelboy. Now go cry somewhere else.

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Big Observer

VG877, where are you from? Calm down! You make me smile too much! ROTFLOL!

You make me smile due to your gross inaccurate view of history, which you dont even deny judging by your decision not to even defend yourself. If you plan on lying about history, at least back it up with historical evidence or try to defend yourself. Quit bringing up the A-bombs which has nothing to do with this debate.

It´s impossible dialogue to Korean and Chinese zealots, or their vassals and accomplices.

Does that make you a Japanese zealot? It works both ways.

They don´t have the ability to forgive also means they will be chained to their past, and go to their graves without being able to let go. It´s their right. But hatreds should not be carried on forever, bitterness sours their own life more than anyone else's.

Uhhhh.... I think its clearly Japan who is the wrongdoer here. Not Korea or China.

They have jealousy and envy of Japan.

Jealous of what? Korea has better technology, controls Dokdo and doesn't have a shameful history of imperialism and getting nuked for it. China is going to become a superpower while Japan is dying. What exactly is there to be jealous of? You give yourself way too much credit.

They don´t accept the idea that a torn down country (that was target of two cowards A-bomb) could become the second largest economy,

Please go read up on why Japan was nuked in the first place. You should also look at Japan's GDP per capita. Nowhere near the best in the world.

one of the best human development rate.

LOL. So not true.

Nigel Boy >>Not crying at all since I do not expect Korea to act like adults and settle this case via ICJ because of their WEAK stance on the matter. Like I stated in my previous post, I will continually enjoy their annual finger chopping/feather mutilating/flag burning protests. Weak stance? I can tell you have no idea how the ICJ works. If Japan wants to go to the ICJ, then go right on ahead. No one is stopping them. Why does Japan need Korea's **permission** in order to go to court? If Japan is so confident in the ICJ then they should shut up and go to court rather than crying to the Korean government for permission. You do realize why Japan needs Korea's permission do you? And why the rest of the world follows Korea's rather than Japan's EEZ when dealing with Dokdo and its surrounding water? Or why the Japanese government refuses to send ships to the island it claims it owns. I find it humorous that Japanese people still use the ICJ excuse.

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BigObserver

Does someone know Korea was occupied by China, and China gave Korea to Japan (payment of war) when Japan won the China-Japan war?

Where do you get your information? China never owned Korea. China never gave Korea to Japan after the Sino-Chinese war. The Korean empire formed right after the Sino-Japanese war. Japan colonized Korea in 1910 which happened years after the Sino-Japanese war.

So what Japan can do? Just moving ahead forgotten Korea.

Its the other way around. Korea is forgetting about Japan. Korea does not view Japan as a power nor as an important market. Japan makes billions of dollars from Korean companies by selling mechanical components and parts. However, more and more Korean companies are now switching to parts from Germany and buying less from Japan.

With Korean electronics rivals stripping Japanese companies, and more Korean companies buying German. You will notice that Korea is in fact the one who is "forgetting" about Japan.

1) Bush said the islets belong to Korea!!! Who is so crazy to believe what Bush says??? 2) Japan did not invade Korea, China GAVE Korea to Japan in payment of war. Why did not China give other territory to Japan in payment of war? Because China had already sucked everything from Korea during the period that China had occupied Korea, and China considered Korea a refuse.

1) Its not just Bush. Its the US governments stance.

2) Japan did invade Korea. Ask any historian.

3) China did not give Korea to Japan. China did not even own Korea. Show me a paper which states that China owned Korea.

4) The Sino-Japanese war was fought in order to break Korea's pro-China stance and alliance.

@Cos: I´m European and most of Europe (except Britain, The Great Vassal) agree entirely with you. Sir, great post, well done. We´d like to give an advice: It´s impossible dialogue to Korean and Chinese zealots, or their vassals and accomplices. They don´t have the ability to forgive also means they will be chained to their past, and go to their graves without being able to let go. It´s their right. But hatreds should not be carried on forever, bitterness sours their own life more than anyone else's. They have jealousy and envy of Japan. They don´t accept the idea that a torn down country (that was target of two cowards A-bomb) could become the second largest economy, have the highest longevity and one of the best human development rate. Japan, again, welcome among best countries of Europe.

Lol at you claiming that most of Europe agrees with Japan on this dispute. Sorry kido but most Europeons in general do not know of this dispute. The EU's official stance is to respect Korea's sovereignty over the island, not Japan's.

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Nigelboy

I prefer that it continues simply because of entertainment value. I get a kick out of their annual finger chopping/feather mutilating/flag burning protests.

The fact is, no matter how much you cry. Dokdo will always be considered sovereign Korean territory. So please quit the bitterness and just accept it.

GoodJorb >>Much ado about nothing, both countries rely on American Troops for protection and therefore unless America says different things will remain status-quo. The Dokdo thing is why over done by both sides but in particular one side seems to out do the other though, taking out advertisements out in the NYT and printing that Dokdo is Korean on dry cleaning bags. Japan should just follow China's lead, slant drilling and catch fish on the boarder of the EEZ during their migration. >History textbook whitewashing in China's case is easy enough to find; >http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/08/world/fg-history8 >http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=3966 >http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/09/116_52682.html >A little harder for Korea; >http://www.workers.org/2009/world/koreamassacres1210/ Japan doesnt have the guts to attempt such a task. Otherwise, they would have done so a long time ago. There is no gain in attempting such a task. The natural resources on and around the island are still within boundary and it still doesnt change the fact that the islands are controlled by Korea. Japan would only be wasting its money, time and face in doing so. P.S. your Korea link doesnt work.

YuriOtani

VG877, I find your posts unhelpful and Japanese Bashing. Just what do the Koreans know about Okinawa? It is very similar to Korea in that it was annexed to Japan against their will in 1872. I have stated the ROK should get the rocks (Takeshima). A lot of good it will do them. However I do not see this improving Japan Korea relations. The comfort women will be a distraction even though it was settled with the lawful government of Korea in 1965. Yes Japanese people can read Korean. Schoolbooks is such a lame excuse. The hatred of all things Japanese will prevent good relations. Japan has made many apologies and asked to be forgiven but Korea refuses to forgive. Takeshima is an example of the tension that still exists to this day.

Just because I disagree with Japan's stance does not make me a racist. I do agree that relations can improve if and only if both sides cooperate. However, most of the blame still lies withJapan. It is Japan who was the agressor and thus it is Japan who must ultimately appease the victim. Not the other way around. If Japan wants to improve relations, it must act sincererly.

Instead the only thing Koreans get is along the lines of "we already apologized" or "that never happened" type of excuses. Obviously, no one is really surprised why Korea-Japan relations are so bad.

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The 6 day change from designated to undesignated back to designated was politically motivated.

It occurred during the US-Korea beef deal, Free trade agreement and Bush's upcoming visit to South Korea. It was a tool used by the US government to kill 3 birds with stone. Its very very likely that the South Korean government was also behind it, since both governments shared the same goal. Needless to say the US-beef deal ended peacefully shortly afterwards, FTA negotiations progressed, Bush's popularity in Korea soared, and the Presidents visit to Korea was a success.

The only people who lost out on the event were the Japanese Takeshima supporters who still to this day believe the US is "neutral".

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Cos

You wrote a whole bunch of nothing that only makes you look petty. Korean historians can criticize Japanese textbooks, because they know what is written inside. You on the other hand cannot even tell me why Korean textbooks are inaccurate. You don't even know the language. So what gives you a right to question their accuracy? Do people review movies they have yet to see? Much like how you are "reviewing" Korean textbooks you cannot even understand. And why do you get defensive when I call you biased. Admit it, you are biased. You even accuse Koreans of digging up the past, when its actually Japan who's doing the historical revisions years after the war has ended. Quit pointing fingers if you dont even know the details.

You also remark that Korean historians cannot criticize Japanese textbooks because most Koreans cannot distinguish an Okinawan from a Japanese person. What god awful logic is that? If you wish to debate me, do it properly. And please quit bringing up those arbitrary numbers. Where did you get the 95%, 5% and .05% numbers again? Did you use some complicated math formulas to read into the mind of Korean children, or are you making stuff up again? I asked for examples of Korean textbook inaccuracies and the best you can do is bring up made up numbers and your personal life stories. The fact is, this is the internet and anyone can make up a personal story to suit their agenda. Which you are probably doing right now.

And thats not the worst of it. You've contradicted yourself many times already. One obvious example is the Tsushima debate. You are infuriated at Koreans for mentioning Japanese war atrocities in the year 2009. Meanwhile you claim that Koreans are trying to steal Tsushima and use an event that occurred and ended in 1951 as an example. Hypocrisy much? There's just too much wrong in your post. A half assed apology by a low level government official and the ODA does not bring back the lives lost(you setting a price on human lives). The comfort women incident isnt even about money. Its about Japan actually admitting responsibility. Korean children are taught about the 1965 deal between the Japanese government and a Korean military dictator who never represented the people of South Korea. Of course you wouldn't know, you dont even know whats written in Korean textbooks. The list goes on and on.

As I mentioned earlier, if you wish to debate me. Do so properly.

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Ossan

Until SKorea act like adults and settle this issue permanently before the ICJ, all the historical and silly chest-beating arguments by korean nationalists are meaningless. The US considers these rocks UNDESIGNATED SOVEREIGNTY. End of issue.

You're still using the ICJ excuse? If Japan wants to go to court, why dont they? Whats stopping them from going to court? You mention the ICJ all the time, yet cannot seem to explain why Japan is unable to go to the ICJ.

Blue Tiger- show me. Last I heard the status was returned to Undesignated Status.

My goodness Ossan, did you not read what I wrote? BlueTiger is right. The President and the US government recognizes Korea as having sovereignty over Dokdo. Read what I wrote on 04:40 PM JST - 26th December. Then read the following link

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/07/113_28523.html

Dokdo's undesignated status lasted for a mere 6 days. 6 whole days. After that, the president of the United states confirmed that Dokdo was sovereign Korean territory. So there you have it. The President and the US government recognizes Korea, NOT JAPAN's ownership of Dokdo. The US only claims neutrality in order to not hurt Japan's feelings.

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Yuri Otani

VG877, you did not comment on my proposal to fix this. The only reason I included Tsushima is because of a local government or was it a group has recently claimed it for Korea. Most Japanese including me do not care about the Dokdo islands. If Korea wants then it is ok with me. The offical ceding of the Tsusshima island will balance things out. Make the Japanese people think they got something.. I am upset because a jr high school book can cause such distress. Am also upset the Korean people hate the people of Okinawa. What have we done to the Korean people?

I did not comment, because your your proposal doesn't work. You state that Japan should sign the islands over to South Korea in exchange for Korea dropping all claims to Tsushima. How is that possible when Korea currently controls every pebble and droplet of water on and around the island? What exactly is there to sign over? And since when did the South Korean government ever claim Tsushima as Korean territory? Please stop these baseless accusations of Koreans trying to steal Tsushima. There may be Korean fringe groups who want to take control of Tsushima, but there are also Japanese fringe groups who wish to reinstate the Emperor and start world war 3.

The only way to stop these fringe groups is to outlaw freedom of speech. Which is a definite no-no in a democracy.

As for the Okinawans. Honestly, most Koreans probably do not even know what an Okinawan is. To them, you are all Japanese.

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YuriOtani

There is no territorial dispute between Korea and Japan over Tsushima. The Korean government does not claim or recognize Tushima as Korean territory. You are creating a dispute over nothing.

sfjp330

Good point. Japan's claim to the island(Liancourt rocks) stems from its 1905 illegal theft of the island which broke international law. International law at the time and even today prohibits the taking of land for military purposes and the taking of land without the consent and awareness of neibhoring countries. Japan broke both laws. After WWII, Japan agreed to give back all territories it took from Korea by military force.

The fact of the matter is, Japan has no legitimate claim to the island. The 1905 claim cannot be used in court to support their cause, because it was entirely illegal. The sad fact is, Japans entire Takeshima ideology stems from its illegal 1905 theft. Which they still believe is legitimate.

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Ossan

If the President of the United states needed to visit Dokdo, he would have to request the permission of the South Korean government. Not the Japanese government. Do you know why that is? Because the US government recognizes Korea's sovereignty over the island. It recognizes that Korea administers and controls the territory. The US abides by Korea's EEZ and territorial rules when dealing with Dokdo. Not Japans EEZ and territorial rules. Japan has absolutely no say in this dispute. All the cards are on Korea's table. And the US knows this very well. The US refuses to take sides in this dispute, while at the same time recognizing that Korea's sovereignty over the islands. Which in all honesty can be translated into-

""The US sides with Korea in this dispute. However since it doesnt want to hurt Japan's feelings, it will claim neutrality.""

The US governments neutrality stance is merely lip service. Its what Japan wants to hear, but is far from the truth. Its true that the Board of Geographic names changed the Liancourt rocks from soverign Korean territory to neutral territory. But that was only for a whopping 6 days. 6 whole days! After that, the US government reaffirmed that the island belonged to Korea. Which was basically a punch to the gut of "Takeshima" supporters. Because it showed once again that the US government was on Korea's side.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/07/113_28523.html

As for your other remarks on Korean history, im going to take you as seriously as I take cartoons. Your credibility has been missing ever since you blamed Koreans for the rape of nanking.

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Knowitall

Maybe. Maybe not. The question is, why didn't they? Again, why didn't they? According to scholar Donald S. Macdonald

So, while colonization may not have been morally correct (but a recognized practice at the time), it did provided some benefits to the country.

Oh I dont know..... maybe it was due the thousands of uninvited Japanese "guests" who decided one day that Korea should be a part of Japan. You should do some more research on the subject. Korea had electricity, steam engines, box cars, western medicine, western schools, modern sewage treatment, water purification and more before the Japanese arm arrived. Western advisers were brought in to help the Korean government modernize.

But then the Japanese came...

But Korea is still screaming for blood 60+ years later. They aren't satisfied with Takeshima. They want Tsushima "back" too (even though they only had it for a short time in something like 1400).

Wrong. Go look up the Korean governments official stance on Tsushima.

Ossan

Ossan

Do you even know what is written in San Francisco treaty. Or are you parroting right wing Japanese blogs and 2ch again? Didnt you blame Koreans for the rape of Nanking in another article? Where do you get your source material?

The US government does recognize Korea as having sovereign/administrative control over the islands. What that means, is that it recognizes Korea as having ownership of the island. It is functionally Korean territory. If a US naval destroyer, tourist or even the President of the United States wanted to visit the island. Then the US government would request the South Korean government for permission. Not the Japanese government.

What the US however refuses to do however, is side with either country in the dispute. They remain neutral while at the same time recognizing that Korea controls the island. In other words, the US government considers the Liancourt islands to be Korean, but refuses to take sides in the debate.

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Knowitall

Maybe. Maybe not. The question is, why didn't they? Again, why didn't they? According to scholar Donald S. Macdonald

So, while colonization may not have been morally correct (but a recognized practice at the time), it did provided some benefits to the country.

Oh I dont know..... maybe it was due the thousands of uninvited Japanese "guests" who decided one day that Korea should be a part of Japan. You should do some more research on the subject. Korea had electricity, steam engines, box cars, western medicine, western schools, modern sewage treatment, water purification and more before the Japanese arm arrived. Western advisers were brought in to help the Korean government modernize.

But then the Japanese came...

But Korea is still screaming for blood 60+ years later. They aren't satisfied with Takeshima. They want Tsushima "back" too (even though they only had it for a short time in something like 1400).

Wrong. Go look up the Korean governments official stance on Tsushima.

Ossan

Do you even know what is written in San Francisco treaty. Or are you parroting right wing Japanese blogs and 2ch again? Didnt you blame Koreans for the rape of Nanking in another article? Where do you get your source material?

The US government does recognize Korea as having sovereign/administrative control over the islands. What that means, is that it recognizes Korea as having ownership of the island. If a US naval destroyer, tourist or even the President of the United States wanted to visit the island. Then the US government would request the South Korean government for permission. Not the Japanese government.

What the US however refuses to do however, is side with either country in the dispute. They remain neutral while at the same time recognizing that Korea controls the island. In other words, the US government considers the Liancourt islands to be Korean, but refuses to take sides in the debate.

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Cos

So in other words, you do not speak the language of the countries textbooks you criticize as innacurate. So what exactly gives you the right to criticize a book if you dont even understand what is being said? Or is it personal bias? I can tell its personal bias simply by looking at your major points. Rather than giving examples of historical inaccuracies found within the books you criticize, you instead resort to stories about your personal life.

Some of your examples are preposterous. You mention that Korean and Chinese books are innaccurate because they lay 98% of the blame on Japan and 2% on their compatriots. Really now? Care to tell me where you got those numbers? And why its so wrong to lay most of the blame towards the Japanese?

Apologies, the ODA etc. You believe that a couple of half hearted apologies and the ODA is enough to settle all historical grievances. In other words, you are basically setting a price on human lives. And that is your biggest mistake. No amount of money and "regret" will bring back the lives lost or fix the evils of the past. Those apologies by Japanese officials would at the very least be accepted if they wern't so insincere. And I mean insincere as in white washing history or justifying the invasions. Just look at Jamal if you want an example.

And last but not least, your logic does not work both ways. You argue that Japan's education is superior due to leftist teachers(what about the rightists?) and their students visiting exhibits on wartime atrocities. Well then, what exactly do you want Korean and Chinese teachers to do? Visit Yasunki and wave imperial Japanese flags? Are you forgetting who the true victims of the war were? It doesnt work both ways because one side was the aggressor, and the other side the victim.

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NeoJamal

It's hard to accept how the way the Koreans adopted western ideas seem to mirror the Japanese way as mere conincidence, may be it is.

Its not a coincidence. Are you forgetting what happened between 1910-1945? Do you honestly believe Korea needed Japan's help in westernizing? Remember, Korea never asked for Japan's "help". Nor was the concept of westernization and western technology invented by the Japanese. So why exactly did the Japanese come uninvited?

I respect the ancient Koreans for giving Japan the foundations of civilisation, even though many of these foundations are second hand Chinese sources, you could hardly call me a hypocrit for acknowledging that!

Theres a huge difference between Korea giving Japan the foundations of its civilization, versus the Japanese coming in uninvited, murdering those who resisted and building modern factories for Koreans to work in as slaves. Huge difference.

Darn right it's an excuse to bitch at the Koreans, ICJ can only intervene when both disputing parties acknowledge its jurisdiction over the case. Japan can go to the Hague but there will be no trial waiting there because Korea won't turn up. What's wrong with the court?

You don't really understand how the ICJ works. So im going to make this simple for you. Answer the following questions. Why does Japan need Korea's permission to go to court. Why can't Japan go to court by itself? Do you know what disputed means? And do you know what sovereign territory means?

Is it the fact that a Wenom is the President and no Korean serves as a Justice of the Court?

The current president of Korea is Japanese? Since when? And why is the current Secretary General of the UN-Korean rather than Japanese.

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Then one must commend Japan for having the most culturally influential invasion and occupation of an alien state in history. This brutal invasion if you would is preserved in Seoul's historical architecture including Seoul station and Seoul University, South Korea's legal system, business practices, media and more that today's Koreans enjoy for granted because of the brutal Japanese occupation.

Spoken like a fascist. You're telling me that Korea, the same country whom in ancient times was a pedagogue to Japan. And in recent times has outstripped Japan in electronics and other tech related fields, was unable to modernize without the help of Japan?

Korea never asked Japan to invade them. Those modern ideas and inventions that Japan "gave" to Korea wern't even Japanese inventions. They were western ideas. Why did Korea need Japan when they could have gone straight to the source, without having their country enslaved and humiliated? Dont be a hypocrite. Im pretty sure if roles were reverse, you would be screaming bloody murder at the Koreans.

I must commend Japan for sincerely suggesting this territorial dispute to the International Court of Justice, an intermediary option that many states including Singapore and Malaysia have used in the past. Koreans on the otherhand simply replied 'NO'.

I was waiting for someone to bring up the overdone ICJ excuse.

If Japan wants to go to the ICJ, then why dont they do so? No one is putting a gun up to Japan's head and telling them not to go to court. So whats stopping the Japanese government from going to court? South Korea is certainly not stopping them.

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Cos, you can fluently read 4 languages(English, Chinese, Korean, Japanese)?

Mind telling me whats so wrong with Chinese and Korean textbooks? Im not saying this to be snide. I just want to know whats so wrong with those textbooks you mention.

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Sharing territory doesn't work. Otherwise, I demand the US government share half of America to the Republic of VG877.

This entire dispute is stupid. The island is functionally Korean, and it will remain Korean. They already have people, patrol boats, flag and buildings on or around the island. And it has been this way for decades. Japan has no realistic way of gaining access to the island, barring war. And the way I see it, Japan might as well be committing suicide if it were to start another war.

Why dispute over an island that you have no realistic chance of winning? Japan is being really immature here. South Korea controls the island and will continue to control it. Deal with it. Quit bringing up these international pissing matches every time you feel insecure. It pisses off and annoys both countries, and ruins bilateral relations.

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