The logic in this thread seems to be "if they let in anybody, they better let in EVERYBODY".
Why is it always binary here? What are so many posters on this site devoid of the ability to understand that sometimes nuance situations are required?
Which of the complainers can tell us the "proper" solution, where everybody is happy. I've noticed a lot of whining about who didn't get something, and literally not a single suggestion of what the "correct" answer is. You know, the one where everyone is happy.
Nope, it's not about "letting everybody in", but about the order of things, and things being fair. So no jumping the queue by the power of money or lobbying.
In this case: PR's and other residents of Japan, who, i.e,. already have a home here, should be let in first, before any new-comers. I don't think anyone is saying that e.g. tourists should be let in for a long time. So here's my solution for the order which I personally think would be fair - it wouldn't make everyone happy, but I think it would be justified:
PR's and spouses/children of Japanese nationals
the ones with already existing work visa and already existing student visa.New-comers and tourists, who have not established their lives here yet or don't even mean to, should be last on the list.
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From what I've gathered, this is all about the ¥¥¥. Some people are saying the association of international schools lobbied (paid?) this decision and got what they wanted.
The tuition at these schools is very high - so definitely not for the average Japanese kid. More for the kids of the elite, and some foreigners, who have no other choice (e.g. if their stay in Japan is temporary and if their kid doesn't speak any Japanese). This is really not about the children's right to get education - as that right is universal, and that would mean all kids, not just kids at the international schools.
(Also, many commentators are mixing things up: this is not about eikaiwa teachers, JETs or ALTs. It's about teachers at international schools (mainly elementary and jhs I believe), where the language used is mainly English, not Japanese.)
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About every 10 years something happens to just remind me that I am not, and never will be, Japanese. No matter how long I live here or no matter how many taxes I pay,.
But then I remember I actually am not Japanese in the first place despite feeling like I am, then I am ok with it.
Yup, very true. But it would be nice if Japan treated us foreigners also as human beings.
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I don’t understand why any of the above posts are championing this “change", it is still extremely discriminatory of those who live and work here, pay taxes, have families but are NOT Japanese. If anything, it’s made it even more difficult.
Exactly. The change has actually made it nearly impossible for some to return now, as you simply can not get a PCR test done in some countries without symptoms, or the results together with the flight time will take longer than the 72hours. And if you can get it done, it's very costly. As is travelling to the Japanese embassies in many countries, to get this additional piece of paper that is now demanded.
Also, if you leave now, there's no returning back, no matter what kind of visa or PR you have.
What does this "From Sept 1, those conditions will also apply to foreign nationals in other categories, including permanent or long-term residents and spouses and children of Japanese nationals or permanent residents." mean? Does it mean people in these categories stranded abroad?
Yes, people who belong to these categories who are now outside of Japan, wishing to re-enter. If you leave now, it's sayonara, as you won't be able to come back.
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Yeah, seems there are other things on the agenda prior to this happening.
Cant trust they will even let you back in once you return from Hawaii.
Oh, but, this is not for the foreigners, so don't worry about that. We ain't going anywhere for months (not, if you want to be able to come back home in Japan).
It's so that Japanese can still have their Hawaii holidays and Hawaii weddings. Maybe some high ranking officials daughters' weddings were in danger of not happening - now they're saved.
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Lockdown, social isolation supporters and the authorities they support have three principles in their international message to all:
1) Be ever fearful of the severity of the virus and of its unpredictability.
2) Feel very guilty all the time because even if you are well you may well be killing other people by association.
3) Don’t enjoy social life. Especially don’t have Fun, such as by laughing with, hugging, touching. Because these are all leading to #1 and #2 above.
Now, ask yourselves when these authorities will say, “ Okay, everyone. You can go back to the way you used to be”.
The answer to that question is ..... never.
Did you get that? Never.
As long as we rely on these authorities to govern our life, that life is gone forever.
Please have a nice day!
To memoryfix, and everyone else who keeps on claiming things such as "covid-19 is just a hoax and nothing more than a flu" and "lockdowns and social isolation are just a way the governments take away our freedom":
What would any government benefit from any of these restrictions or possible lockdowns? What would they actually benefit from asking their citizens to stay home and basically stop consuming?
Why would they ask this, if it wasn't to stop the virus from spreading, to flatten the curve, to keep hospitals running as efficiently and for as long as possible?
What other good would lockdowns do for them? Social isolation, restrictions and lockdowns will inevitably damage the economy, so why would they want it, if it wasn't for the reason mentioned above: to stop the virus from spreading. What would any government actually benefit from their citizens "being ever fearful", "feeling very guilty" or "not enjoying social life"?
I think you lot, who think governments just want to "control you and take away your freedom", have watched a little too many Austin Powers & Marvel movies and think the world is filled with evil scientists and mad men, who only want to rule the world.
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Construction works for the Olympics are finished. They are the only winners.
No they're not. The preparation work, construction work, etc etc is still going on, and there are thousands of people working hard for the Tokyo Olympic Committee and IOC. Thousands of people in Tokyo are also depending on the games to get their livelihood from the games.
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Tokyo's cumulative total reached 9,816, nearing 10,000, as the single-day figure, which compared with 168 cases on Monday, topped the 200-mark for the first time in three days.
We all know by now, that (thanks to the use of fax machines and black marker pens) there's a lag of couple of days in the figures, and that the low numbers are from less testing being done during the weekends. Therefore there's no need to rejoice over lower numbers because of less testing, or make remarks like "topped the 200-mark for the first time in three days", as it is to be expected. Rather state things as they are:
"There were 168 cases reported on Monday, but as these results are from tests being done during the weekend, during which there is usually less testing being done, the single-day figures have expectedly returned to over the 200-mark."
(You could also add that without the fax - marker pen - phone - fax - marker pen - fax limbo there would probably be much more capacity to conduct much more tests, revealing the reality, i.e. way more cases.)
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Yeah, Trump is the most st*pid American. I can't believe anyone supports this clown.
I agree, except you could fix the first sentence a bit: The most st*pid and dangerous living being.
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its amazing to see all these "you are a racist if you support Trump" liberals attacking a Black candidate for President so fiercely to ensure their old white guy candidate wins.
You are also a racist if you vote for Kanye merely because of his skin color. There's a long list of attributes a successful president should have, and skin color has nothing to do with those attributes: it shouldn't matter.
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Why not just report the numbers of those who are seriously ill or dead?
Everyone on here seems to agree that the positive test numbers are not accurate so they shouldn't report them.
But I guess that wouldn't lead to clicks, would it?
Because also asymptomatic people and people with "mild" symptoms spread it forward.
They are far more dangerous for others, than the seriously ill or dead.
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all foreigners can get the virus and carry it back in Japan regardless if they live in Japan or not. What's the problem with Japan's system?
The problem is, that all Japanese people can get the virus and carry it back to Japan regardless if they live in Japan or not. Yet, they can enter. Come and go, as they please.
All the while foreigners, who have lived in Japan for years, have their jobs, apartments, families and other duties here, can not enter. Who in some cases, will end up loosing said jobs, apartments and maybe even families, without anyone covering for the losses, for the sake of the discriminatory rules, racist attitudes and lack of flexibility. I'm honestly questioning - isn't this situation already breaking some international human rights laws?
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If you're in Tokyo, Maison Kaiser bakeries have great breads. Whole wheat, rye, etc. And also the marshmallow toast, if that's what you prefer. ;)
For real rye bread, check Raimugihausu in Kamakura. They've got an online store too.
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My practical tips for the skin issues:
wear a silk mask - silk is gentle for the skin and has naturally some antibacterial properties. It also feels cool in the summer (and warm in the winter).
wear an ear guard
if you need to go to work, i.e. you need to wear a mask all day, bring a few masks with you so you can change them throughout the day. Also bring a small bottle of micellar water, some cotton rounds, and light gel moisturizer.Every time you change your mask, wash your hands, wipe your face with the micellar water (drop some of it on the cotton rounds), moisturize your skin, wash your hands again, and put on a new, clean, mask.
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Spraying the silver is a good start,( all though I agree with drlucifer, it might be more of a PR move), but I wish something more would be done to control the number of people in each train car. Not everyone has smart phones so that they could use the apps.
I wonder if they could place some kind of sensors (e.g. heat sensors, just to detect the number of human bodies) in each car, and then screens visible to people waiting on the platforms - the screens would be green if there was plenty of space, yellow if it was moderately crowded, and red, if there were too many people inside. People on the platform could then easily decide whether to get on the particular car or not.
This wouldn't compromise anyone's identity, like a camera surveillance would do. I have no idea how feasible and how expensive this would be though - just a thought.
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By the way, instead of only reporting cases in Tokyo, the number for the whole country should be mentioned each and every time, JT.
Just checked on the Johns Hopkins University data, and it shows there 20258 cases for today, which is 304 more than yesterday.
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"While numerous people are still reporting on extreme difficulties in getting tested"
I’ve seen no such reports. This wouldn’t be speculation on your part, would it? Source please.
= multiple statements directly from the people being denied testing, multiple statements on public discussion forums (e.g. on facebook ), comments even on the comment sections of this same very newspaper you're now reading online.
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"Is the Government Legally obliged to report these figures ? Seems that by doing so, they're creating a sense of unease within the population - so without the figures maybe we'd all feel happier and go back to work ?"
Seriously, isn't it better to be informed than not informed?
I think that's the point here - the government would like the citizens to be happy and go to work, thus, if they're not legally required to report everything, they won't, as the approach seems to be 'see no evil, speak no evil'. Like blindfolding sheep who are to be slaughtered.
I also think people should be as informed as possible, and all knowledge reg. the development of the covid-19 situation should be open. It also makes people feel unease, when nothing can be trusted and they need to be guessing what the real situation is, and what's safe to do and what's not.
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While numerous people are still reporting on extreme difficulties in getting tested, even with very serious symptoms, you really can not blindly, merely, just stare at the number of cases and then declare "oh it's getting better".
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Vinke I disagree. What about Stewart Copeland? He's way better than Neal Pert, and those other 2 for that matter. Their music is better too. Phil Collins? Pop music crap.
Errr.... I have no idea where this aggression is coming from. I was simply suggesting startpunk check's also Yoyoka the drummer on youtube. She genuinely is amazing, and super talented, despite her age.
No other comment on any other drummers. I prefer jazz anyways.
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I have seen live Ringo Starr, Phil Collins and Neil Peart - three of the greatest drummers ever.
Please check also Yoyoka on youtube. Seriously.
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Sorry, need to edit my previous comment a bit:
"A bunch of babies, mums or dads, in the room at the same time"
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What are these group check-ups like? It's a foreign concept to me.
A bunch of babies and mums in the room at the same time, and the doctor checks them conveyor belt style? Whilst everyone in the room can hear each other's results?
If this is how it's like, then absolutely no thanks. Not even when there's no pandemic around.
This same problem applies to multiple health-related services and practices here: no privacy.
Therefore I'm really happy for the parents if they get the individual check-ups for their babies - this should be the norm.
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"Japan is in the middle of its annual rainy season, which frequently unleashes deadly floods and landslides."
This is not true. The "plum rains" are usually quite gentle. The total rainfall in this so-called "rainy season" is always less than August, for example. This is truly exceptional and obviously a sign of things to come with global warming.
I agree with you, but it's not just now, or just this year. I lived in the Gifu area last year, and during this same time the rainfall was just unbelievable sometimes. Never in my life have I seen so much water come down from the sky at once. There were also quite sudden, very violent and big thunderstorms.
I had to walk to work then, walking in between a mountain wall and a small river, and I was genuinely scared, if there would be a mudslide. Either it would bury me under it, and/or toss me into the river, and there would be nothing I could do about it. My employer ignored my concerns.
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Hey nay-sayers and "it's just a flu" gang, here's something to read tonight:
*" As virologists race to understand the biomechanics of Sars-CoV-2, *one thing is becoming increasingly clear: even “mild” cases can be more complicated, dangerous and harder to shake than many first thought.
*Throughout the pandemic, a notion has persevered that people who have “mild” cases of Covid-19 and do not require an ICU stay or the use of a ventilator are spared from serious health repercussions. -- This kind of rhetoric would lead you to believe that the ordeal of “mildly infected” patients ends within two weeks of becoming ill, at which point they recover and everything goes back to normal. While that may be the case for some people who get Covid-19, emerging medical research as well as anecdotal evidence from recovery support groups suggest that many survivors of “mild” Covid-19 are not so lucky. They experience lasting side-effects, and doctors are still trying to understand the ramifications. Some of these side effects can be fatal. According to Dr Christopher Kellner, a professor of neurosurgery at Mount Sinai hospital in New York, “mild” cases of Covid-19 in which the patient was not hospitalized for the virus have been linked to blood clotting and severe strokes in people as young as 30.*
*Another troubling phenomenon now coming into focus is that of “long-haul” Covid-19 sufferers – people whose experience of the illness has lasted months. For a Dutch report published earlier this month, researchers surveyed 1,622 Covid-19 patients with an average age of 53, who reported a number of enduring symptoms, including intense fatigue (88%) persistent shortness of breath (75%) and chest pressure (45%). Ninety-one per cent of the patients weren’t hospitalized, suggesting they suffered these side-effects despite their cases of Covid-19 qualifying as “mild”. While 85% of the surveyed patients considered themselves generally healthy before having Covid-19, *only 6% still did so one month or more after getting the virus."
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here it is an embarrassing unprofessional mis-mash website typical indicative of Japanese not enlisting assistance of foreigners to make it easy to read good luck ! https://jsite.mhlw.go.jp/tokyo-foreigner/english.html
...the page looks like it was made in 1990, not 2020. O_o
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We all get corona is unpleasant, the question is it unpleasant enough to warrant this kind of panic.
The answer in Japan at least is no.
By the way
concentration or memory problems
swollen lymph nodes
unexplained muscle or joint pain
symptoms of patients "recovered" from influenza.
It's not about "panicking", but being responsible and doing the right thing. Because of the nay-sayers ignore pretty much everything, even science, the ones being responsible have to be extra cautious.
Oh, and by the way - I had a really bad influenza last year, and yes, I had those symptoms DURING the influenza, not many months AFTER it, like covid-19 patients do.
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shortness of breath
diarrhea and other GI symptoms
rashesringing of the ears
...symptoms of patients "recovered" from covid-19, lasting for weeks or months. Sound pleasant? I didn't think so. But hey, as "there aren't that many deaths" and "it's just flu" all of these symptoms are a-ok, I guess.
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More or less half of these confirmed patients are attributed to the night clubs in the Kabukicho and Ikebukuro district.
Yes, so...? That's because that's where they're doing targeted testing. If they tested say, in your neighbourhood, they'd find the cases there.
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This is not a case of harmless property damage. he is leaving the woman stranded and isolated without transport. in the time it takes them to call a cab and/or JAF, he could attack and kill them. This is an act of aggression, and he should have been dealt with a long time ago. He is a potential killer, if not an actual one.
I agree. It seems bizarre and even somewhat funny at first, but when you think of it, it's psychotic behaviour and could lead to something really sinister.
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