voiceofokinawa comments

Posted in: Defense minister, Okinawa governor at odds over U.S. base relocation plan See in context

Yubaru,

Once again, keep dreaming. The landfill will be completed.

Probably, as you suggest, the landfill work may forge ahead as scheduled without any justifiable reason given why it must. If the government insists its fixed policy must be implemented no matter what, then democracy collapses right then and there. Are you a supporter of undemocratic principles?

If you were, you would be a traitor against the country where you were born as well as the country you adopted.

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Posted in: Turkey to re-inforce military presence in northern Cyprus See in context

Looking at the Ukrainian conflict, I cannot help but think that the days of colonialism/imperialism imbued with the law of the jungle have not completely disappeared from the earth. Breaking out of territorial disputes here and there (e.g., Armenia vs Azerbaijan, Greek vs. Turkey, and Turkey vs. Cyprus) after a long hiatus of peace and stability seems to me to be the repercussion that has been sparked by the Ukrainian war. 

What have great powers like the U.S. done in the past 77 years to prevent imperialism from fomenting itself again?

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Posted in: Defense minister, Okinawa governor at odds over U.S. base relocation plan See in context

Yubaru(Today 01:40 pm JST),

Once again, attempting to put words in someone's mouth that never stated them. Your attempt to obfuscate the facts is amusing at best, but in reality, quite childish. Never said anything about "nonsensical" your words not mine.

Who's playing a word game here, you or me? You present these figures as if you were telling the truth very objectively. But what you try to say between the lines of your sentences is more than apparent. What you want to say is the referendum and the election result were nonsensical

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Posted in: Defense minister, Okinawa governor at odds over U.S. base relocation plan See in context

Registered voters and turnout 1,153,591 52.48%

Total votes 605,385

Oppose 434,273 72.15%

Support 114,933 19.10%

No opinion either way 52,682 8.75%

Did not vote 548,206 47.52%

The total number of registered voters in Okinawa Prefecture, according to official statistics, is

777,000, of whom males account for 476,305 and females 5000,695. Now, according to Yubaru, nay-votes for the government's plan to relocate Futenma to Henoko was 434, 273 or 72.15% and aye-votes 114,933 or 19.10%. He then argues that these figures are nonsensical because the actual number of voter turnout was 52.48%.  

Note, however, that those who abstained their rights to cast votes are the people who will accept whatever result the referendum may boil down to. You can add their number to the nay-votes category if you wish, or vice versa. In other words, you don't have to be bothered with them in statistical counting.

Statistically speaking, it's true that the majority of Okinawa residents (72.15%) are opposed to the government's plan. This in spite of the fact that government did all it could to garner aye-votes, cajoling them to do in favor of the government.

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Posted in: Harris calls U.S.-Japan alliance 'a cornerstone' See in context

By hyping the importance of the alliance, the U.S. seems to be signaling a message that the U.S. miliary presence in Japan, in Okinawa in particular, will go on forever.

Thus, for the U.S., landfill work in Henoko for the construction of Futenma's replacement is a very satisfactory move on the part of Japan, fulfilling the promise it made to the U.S. over the heads of Okinawa. Okinawa's strong opposition to it, as has been repeatedly shown in referendums, polls and ongoing protests is out of their mind because the two countries share the same precious values of democracy.

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Posted in: Turkey vows to defend interests against Greece amid tensions See in context

Greek and Turkey are both NATO members.

I hope this will not be a repercussion sparked by the Ukrainian war.

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Posted in: Harris calls U.S.-Japan alliance 'a cornerstone' See in context

Harris calls U.S.-Japan alliance 'a cornerstone'

A cornerstone for what?

Kamala Harris is not the first U.S. VIP who called the Japan-U.S. alliance a cornerstone. By hyping the importance of the alliance, however, the U.S. seems to be signaling a message that the U.S. miliary presence in Japan, in Okinawa in particular, will last forever.

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Posted in: Abe damaged Japan's democracy, left legacy of power abuse, critics say See in context

Abe damaged Japan's democracy, left legacy of power abuse, critics say

The Futenma issue in Okinawa exemplifies it most conspicuously.

His government kept saying there was no alternative to the current plan to relocate Futenma's facilities to Henoko. But Futenma can be closed now and forever without undermining deterrence. Why didn't the Abe government pursue this line? It's because Henoko relocation was Washington's fixed decision from the very beginning and he couldn't say no to it.

Henoko sit-ins against the relocation marked 3,000 days May 25, according to local newspapers, and yet the landfill work in Henoko is being forged ahead, which Abe had originally sanctioned in sympathy with the U.S. government and in complete disregard of Okinawa's strong opposition to it.

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Posted in: The controversy over Abe's state funeral See in context

To Prime Minister Fumio Kishida and his ilk, the late former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe must appear large enough as to be given a state funeral. A dramatic and tragic ending of his life while giving a speech on a campaign trail amplified that image even more

But, as political scientist Yoshinobu Yamamoto says, it's too late to voice opposition to the state funeral of Abe, which is scheduled on Tuesday. Notwithstanding, one can keep criticizing him for his servile pro-U.S. stance on all security matters during his stint as prime minister.

U.S. Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emmanuel said Thursday that he and other U.S. dignitaries would attend the funeral with this in mind – Abe was the most U.S.-friendly prime minister in recent years. Considering Abe's great contribution to the U.S., attending at his state funeral by Vice Present Kamala Harris and Ambassador Immanuel may not be enough. President Joe Biden should be there.                    

The only solution for the Futenma issue is to close the Marine base now and forever with no condition attached. Sit-ins by protesters against the relocation marked 3,000 days yesterday, according to local newspapers, and yet the landfill work at Henoko is being forged ahead, which Abe had originally sanctioned in sympathy with the U.S. government and in complete disregard of Okinawa's voice.

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Posted in: Hundreds demand cancellation of Abe's state funeral See in context

It's next to impossible, now, to cancel the state funeral of Shinzo Abe, which is scheduled on Tuesday next week. But one can keep criticizing him for his extreme pro-U.S. and anti-democratic policies during his stint as prime minister. U.S. Ambassador to Japan Rahm Emmanuel said Thursday that he and other U.S. dignitaries would attend the funeral with this in mind – Abe was the most friendly prime minister to the U.S.                       

The Futenma to Henoko relocation is the case in point. The only solution is for the base to be closed unconditionally now and forever. Sit-downs by conscientious protesters against it marked 3,000 days yesterday, and yet the landfill work at Henoko is forging ahead, which Abe had originally sanctioned in sympathy with the U.S. government but in complete disregard of Okinawa’s consensus.

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Posted in: Chinese moves on Taiwan rattle remote Japanese island See in context

The suffix ”gun" or "kun" in the original yunagun is usually attached to place names and may be the same as that in Ahagun 阿波根, Hiyagun 比屋根, Myaagun 宮国, and Tidukun 手登根 . The remaining stem "yuna" may be the same as that in Yunabaru 与那原, Yunagusuku 与那城, Yunamini 与那嶺, and Yunapa 与那覇. The stem "yuna" may also be related with "Yona" in "Yonago" in Shimane Prefecture.

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Posted in: Chinese moves on Taiwan rattle remote Japanese island See in context

It may sound strange that the y-sound in proto-Japanese changed to the d-sound in the Yonaguni dialect. But the sound change from y to d can be thought of as follows:

yunagun dyunagun dunagun dunaun dunan  (Yonagumi dialect)

Cf.

yunagun yunagun yunaun yuno:n (yunoon)  (Ishigaki dialect)

yunagun yunagun yunaun yunan  (Ishigaki dialect)

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Posted in: Chinese moves on Taiwan rattle remote Japanese island See in context

Of course, I am trying to nip a claim like elephant200's in the bud -- the claim that "Yonaguni" (or "Donan" in the local vernacular) is part of Taiwan because the Chinese characters given it, 與那国, can mean "close to China".

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Posted in: Chinese moves on Taiwan rattle remote Japanese island See in context

In the Yonaguni dialect, the figures 'four' (4) and ‘eight’ (8) is "duuchi" (Cf. Japanese: "yottsu"/“yattsu”; Okinawan: "yuuchi"/“yaachi”; Miyako: "yuutsu"/”yaatsu”). "Yama"(=mountain) in other dialects is pronounced "dama" in the Yonaguni dialect.

It seems safe to say then the y-sound in word-initial position in proto-Japanese changed to the d-sound in the Yonaguni dialect. Thus, it may be surmised that “Dunan” is derived from a proto-form very close to the Ishigaki dialect’s “Yunan” or “Yunoon”.

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Posted in: Kishida calls for U.N. reforms to address Russian aggression See in context

There is no doubt that UN is a front for the U.S. in spite of itself. 

U.S. forces fought the Korean War under the name of U.N. Forces. The vestiges of that state of affairs remain in U.S. bases in Okinawa. Formally, Kadena Air Base, USMC Air Station Futenma and White Beach Naval Base in Okinawa are U.N. bases.

There is a lot of room for it to be reformed, structurally as well as ideologically. So, power to the shoulders of Fumio Kishida.

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Posted in: Putin escalates Ukraine war; issues nuclear threat to West See in context

A cornered rat may bite the cat that has chased it. I've posted on another thread that a cornered Putin may resort to using nuclear arsenals to fend off the U.S.-assisted Ukrainian army, thus igniting a world-scale war. A dangerous and worrisome situation, indeed. He has already indicated that his military may use such weapons if needs be.

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Posted in: Japan, U.S. eye joint research to counter hypersonic weapons See in context

Desert Tortoise,

You assume wrong. If the Chinese start landing troops on small Japanese islands along the Ryukyus you need JGSDF and US Marines to land and fight them on land.

 According to a bilateral agreement, it is JSDF that has primary responsibility to deal with a contingency like what you are talking about. So, what's the use of building an Osprey base in Henoko?

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Posted in: Pelosi condemns Azerbaijan over Armenia attack See in context

In old days, attacking another country simply for its own sake was nothing wrong but was fully taken for granted. In pre-war Japan, school children were taught an episode in mythology in which a god named Okuninushinomikoto tugged an island toward him with a big rope.

School children were brainwashed in this way to believe that imperialism was good for the country.

Russian President Vladimir Putin's war on Ukraine may be interpreted in this vein, which is rendering broad repercussions in other parts of the world without any doubt.

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Posted in: N Korea criticizes Japan for rendering key bilateral accord 'null and void' See in context

"The Japanese government can never shirk the responsibility for its perfidious acts about the declaration," he said

When Kim Jong-ill confided to the visiting Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi that North Korea had actually abducted Japanese nationals, he must have been dealing with the issue sincerely and courageously. He even allowed five abductees to return to Japan temporarily. Thus, thawing of ice between the two countries seemed near at hand.

When the deadline of the temporary visit by the five abductees neared, however, the Japanese government flip-flopped an agreement and decided not to let the five return to North Korea albeit their families waiting for them there. It was an abduction in reverse.

So, who was acting perfidiously here?

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Posted in: Obama to skip Abe's state funeral; Hagerty to attend See in context

Okinawa Governor Denny Tamaki is reported not to attend Abe’s state funeral, actually a memorial or remembrance service. Condolences have already been sent by Tamaki to the bereaved family, the report says.

Flags will not be hoisted half-mast at the prefectural government building either, it is reported.

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Posted in: Obama to skip Abe's state funeral; Hagerty to attend See in context

In the UK, it's usually the case that a state funeral is held for a monarch. Winston Churchill's was an exception in that point. But it is said a state funeral for Churchill was decided to be held by the decree of Queen Elizabeth II.

A state funeral for Shinzo Abe, however, decided on by the Kishida cabinet alone, hence causing pros and cons about it.

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Posted in: Chinese moves on Taiwan rattle remote Japanese island See in context

elephant200

The same place can have many names for different people. I won't feel surprised if you tell me the Japanese meaning was different. But in Kanji writing, Yonaguni was written: 與那国岛。That was the meaning the island close to China

I can't make out what you are trying to say.

Maybe, you are misunderstanding me. Scrutinizing the meaning of "Yonaguni" is not the point at issue. I said the etymology of “Yonaguni" is very unclear or unknowable at present although some people say the word "Donan" may have something to do with the Ishigaki dialect's "Yuno" or " Yunoon". The catch is how "Yuno" or "Yunoon" has changed to "Dunan" in the course of time.

 You insist "Yonaguni" means "close to China" because it's written in Chinese characters as "与那国". Does "与那国" really mean closeness to China, as you say? Aren't these characters mere phonetic representations for the sound [yonaguni], whose meaning is not very clear at present at least?

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Posted in: Chinese moves on Taiwan rattle remote Japanese island See in context

elephant200 (Today 03:41 pm JST),

The etymology of the name of the island called "Yonaguni" is not very clear. The islanders call their island by the name of Dunan". Ishigaki islanders call it "Yuno" or "(Yunaun ) Yunoon" and so some people assume "Dunan" may have derived from "Yuno" or "Yunoon". But this explanation doesn't go much beyond folk etymology. There are many place names in Okinawa that start with "Yone" or "Yona", such as "Yonaha", "Yonabaru" or "Yonagusuku". The relevant island's name may be somehow related with these place names. But how it is must be explained convincingly, phonologically.

Now, you have brought up an unheard-of new theory, theorizing the island is called so because it's located near China or Taiwan. I think your theorizing is based on the Chinese characters given to it. Note, however, the Chinese characters are meant to represent only the sounds, not the meaning, here.

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Posted in: Chinese moves on Taiwan rattle remote Japanese island See in context

Yonguni's economy thrived in prewar days and right after the war because of its geographical proximity to Taiwan. Can't diplomatic measures be taken specially between Taiwan and Yonaguni for more free trading?

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Posted in: Japan, U.S. eye joint research to counter hypersonic weapons See in context

Chairman LMAO,, again:

Ospreys may have some advantages over conventional helicopters. They may fly twice as fast as ordinary helicopters. They may also be refueled in the midair.

But where will the active elements of the Marines be who the Ospreys are to transport? They will be on Guam, deployed there from Okinawa, in consonant with the Marines' new strategy.

The substantive amount of the cost for their transfer is shouldered by Japan as bilaterally agreed to. Do you think such deployment of troops and weapons contribute to deterrence and so the construction of Futenma's replacement in Henoko is absolutely necessary?

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Posted in: Japan, U.S. eye joint research to counter hypersonic weapons See in context

Chairman LMAO,

If you need to move a land force in a big hurry Ospreys are at least twice as fast and have greater range than any helicopter. Plus Ospreys can be refueled in flight from Marine KC-130s, further extending their range.

There will be no need to move ground troops to the scene of conflict, hence no need for Ospreys to come into play and their base in a contingency like this. Anti-Access operations will do all the job, I assume.

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Posted in: Japan, U.S. eye joint research to counter hypersonic weapons See in context

Jun Kitamura, a military analyst, says in an essay contributed to JB Press: 9/15/2022 that the Marines are undergoing realignment themselves to deal with a changing security situation, thus mixing its ground force and air wing to form an Anti-Access squadron, in which ground-based Marines will prevent hostile naval and air forces from approaching the territory by targeting them with cutting-edge projectiles such as HIMARS rockets.

HIMARS was used in recent Japan-U.S. joint military exercises and the U.S. wants the system to remain where it was first employed for joint exercises, that is, in JSDF Amami Camp. It seems the U.S. wants to deploy HIMARS to all JSDF bases now being planted on major islands in the archipelago.

What's the use then of deploying Ospreys to Okinawa purported to transport ground troops from one place to another and constructing their air base at Henoko, squandering so much money and energy, destroying mother nature to the nail?

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Posted in: Gov't to pursue U.S. base relocation in Okinawa despite Tamaki's win See in context

Yubaru,

Your frantic reaction to my posts always makes me wonder why you are so hectic to have the relocation realized whatsoever. No Japanese, how conservative or of pro-U.S. bases he may be, would be so proactive for the relocation as you are.  

You once posted that you were discharged from the U.S. Marines Okinawa, obtained a Japanese citizenship, thus paying national taxes just as other Japanese do.

If so, why are you so hectic to endorse the relocation, which is destroying pristine natural environment by mindless landfill work?   

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Posted in: Gov't to pursue U.S. base relocation in Okinawa despite Tamaki's win See in context

Yubaru,

Take your case to the court! If you are that possessed with the idea that something is illegal, why talk about it here, take some initiative and do something.

Do I have to file the case to court for them to interpret for me the meaning of a sentence in the Hague Convention provision that says: "private property cannot be confiscated"?

Isn't the U.S. government eager to relocate Futenma to Henoko partly because they are also aware the current facility sits on illegally confiscated private lands? Many of the bases on mainland Japan, such as Iwakuni, Yokota and Yokosuka, were IJA bases initially which the U.S. occupation forces took over as the result of the war. Futenma is very different from those mainland bases in that point.

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Posted in: Gov't to pursue U.S. base relocation in Okinawa despite Tamaki's win See in context

Yubaru,

I am not being "hectic", look in the mirror! You are because you realize the landfill will become a reality

I am very hectic, yes, because illegality and injustice seem to be going unpunished.

You say you aren't hectic despite the fact that you urge and cheer up the government to forge ahead with the landfill and you take every chance to deny my posts hectically. The landfill must stop right then and there because Futenma's replacement now under construction but expected not to be completed is a white elephant financially, strategically and ecologically.

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