When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace. They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
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Switzerland and the US are polar opposites on almost every issue. You can not possibly compare a population like Switzerland to that of the US's. Seriously, WOW! You are comparing apples and oranges.
You are extremely slow but you are getting there. What is it about Switzerland's population that allows them to own guns without all of the gun crime? What is it about Americans that they cannot handle the same rights as the Swiss? Seek and look for honest answers and the truth is out there waiting for you to discover it.
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What's the gun-related death per capita of ALL OF EUROPE vs. the US for one year. Come on, bud -- think fast! And in the mean time, let's hear your excuses for this slaughter today -- it was his 'god given right' to have the guns to mass murder? I'm seriously interested in your defense of this man and how it was his right to kill all the people he did with the weapons granted him freely by your laws. Please try not to deflect and try to answer truly. I know it's hard, but give it a try.
You want me to defend a man by taking the stance that he had a "god given right" to kill people? When did I ever make such an assertion? Nobody has the right to murder another human being unless in self defense. You immediately tried to set me up by challenging me to defend his right to murder people which is silly. The right to legally possess firearms and the right to commit mass murder are not one in the same and I think you know better than that.
The amount of Gun related deaths per capita are irrelevant and if you look at Switzerland compared to the U.S. one can conclude that culture has way more to do with gun crime than access to guns do. The fact that I was trying to make is in London guns are not readily available and yet they are still being used to commit crimes. So in this scenario you have guns in the hands of criminals and victims of their crimes are at their mercy.
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The second amendment, as with a few others, are relics that need to be changed. How on earth can the US consider itself a modern nation while it upholds and even forces laws from 200 years ago on the public? Grow up, but. Most nations have.
The U.S. should adopt the same system the U.K. has. Oh wait that won't work. Despite being illegal gun crime is on the increase there. Now what?
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Those who say that nobody has a right to take his/her guns away from him/her are just regurgitating what they hear the NRA say.
Incorrect. They are citing their right as granted by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.
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Information is trickling in that the shooter James Holmes was a leftist Occupy member. If this turns out to be true you can expect it to be grossly under reported in U.S. mainstream media.
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serendipitous Again, the line of thinking that "If someone comes onto my property I need to defend myself with a deadly weapon" is part of the problem and people in the U.S. need to realize that. The culture of guns and violence there is so wrong and the causes of these never-ending violent crimes need to be addressed properly and with conviction. Guns and violence are never the answer. Find another way to vent.
If somebody comes on your property with the intent to do you harm. What would you do? Sit there like an idiot while you wait for the police? I am not a criminal you seem to equate gun owner with criminal and are wrong for doing so. O.k. so this evening somebody breaks into your house with ill intent what do you do?
I know what I would do.
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Didn't a three year old kid shoot and kill his father the other day in the US with a gun the family 'respected'? Yet another case of how stupid the lax gun laws in the US are.
How do you teach a three year old to respect a firearm? Now you are just being silly. Was never like that in my house.
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You won't hear me opposing to a more stringent application process to obtaining a firearm. I am however 100% opposed to banning firearms altogether.
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Some people collect guns, some are hand me down, some are for sport shooting, hunting, etc. If somebody came on my property to harm to me or my family I suspect once confronted with a firearm they would retreat. What would you expect I do? Sit there like an coward while a criminal does as they wish? I don't see how my mentality is under attack. I have never committed a gun crime. How on earth does it make sense to demonize me? This is baffling that a law abiding citizen would be referred to as not sane, and is responsible for the rate of crime in the U.S.
Oh and I just kind of threw the figure of a dozen out there. Now that I think of it we had more than a dozen in the two cabinets combined.
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28,874 is a high number and then you find out after some honest digging that suicides are included in that number. Then since we are ban happy we will find that a certain part of the population that represents just 13% of the total populace is responsible for the overwhelming majority of gun crime and we have ourselves and inconvenient situation. Could the case be made that the small minority responsible for the majority of gun crimes should themselves be banned? I wouldn't make that argument but perhaps you may feel comfortable in doing so.
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@Noliving While I appreciate you bringing some sanity to this topic, you absolutely will not receive a well thought out logical answer to your question of :
"What more gun laws would you like to see and how would they have stopped this shooting from happening?"
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I don't know where the disconnect comes from with certain people but making more laws only puts more restrictions on people who adhere to the laws in the first place. In my home town in the U.S. a couple years back, a man with an illegal firearm starting shooting at the staff in a mobile phone dealership. A customer in the shop had a LEGALLY concealed firearm and ended the confrontation right there and then by shooting the assailant in the head. According to your wishes, this scenario would have ended with the criminal who already disregards the law shooting and killing as many people as he could until the police showed up.
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Madverts How does restricting the right for somebody to lawfully own a firearm dissuade an individual who disregards laws that are already on the books? I fail to see the logic in this. With the gun restriction laws in Chicago and D.C. why are these two places rife with gun crime?
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Elbuda Mexicano how would controlling the use of guns stop a criminal from breaking the law?
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Madverts what happened when you take away peoples right to lawfully own a firearm? Do criminals suddenly start adhering to the laws?
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I imported an electric shaving device for resale here in Japan and one day a $10,000 shipment was held because they claimed I needed a license to import "medical devices" I eventually was able to get the shipment released but wow what a bunch of absolute idiots.
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As soon as I saw the title I thought to myself "The Gates family has to be involved" and sure enough. They continue to relentlessly push their eugenicist agenda.
@Frank Vaughn Do you also applaud The Gates Foundation for pushing a polio vaccine on people in India that left 47,500 paralyzed?
Do you applaud him for owning 500,000 shares of GMO seed manufacturer Monsanto?
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My daughter has yet to be bullied here but if the day comes and it is brought to my attention, I promise it will be stopped immediately with a stern confrontation.
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More alcohol related silliness in a country where marijuana is viewed like it is crack cocaine.
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@Peter Shaw Do you really expect a company to roll out a new service and give it away for free? What a silly and childish notion. Welcome to Capitalism. I only hope you were joking. Sadly you probably weren't.
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Why isn't we never saw an update to this story? Truly pathetic JT. Run this story: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/14-year-old-shoots-armed-intruder-while-babysitting-his-younger-siblings-in-phoenix/
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Oh how funny is it to see this guy shot HIMSELF? I am thoroughly enjoying this!
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Where are you from Thunderbird2? I bet its a magical place with no random violence whatsoever. It sounds awesome!
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They clearly need to ban knives in this country. If knives were illegal then this sort of thing would never happen! hahahahahahha
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I grew up in New York state and we always had at least a dozen guns or so in the cabinet. Nobody ever got hurt due to stupidity and the firearms were respected. When I watched those London riots happen a while back I couldn't help but to feel sorry for all those helpless people who couldn't even defend themselves or their private property. It's a shame really. Had that happened at my house or place of business the vandalism and looting would have been met with a shotgun.
One only needs to understand that historically whenever tyrants have taken control of people one of the first things they did was eliminate their right to defend themselves.
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And that, people, is why you need to ban the ownership of weapons. Unstable loonies/drink or drugs + weaponry = death and mayhem.
Educate yourself about cities in America with strict gun bans and you will see that banning guns has quite the opposite effect where it is implemented. Why stop at guns? ban everything! drink, drugs, jail the loonies etc etc. better ban all non plastic cutlery too!
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