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Oh my god, people still deny that this happened in 2015? What kind of delusional fantasy world do you Japanese live in? Your arguments are debunked, its the world vs Japan. Heres a site that refutes pretty much all denialust arguments.

http://fendnow.org/2015/03/debunking-the-japanese-comfort-women-denier-talking-points/

The evidence is quite blatant that women were sexually enslaved by the Japanese military/government. People like Ossan are either dishonest or completely ignorant of history. The 1944 US Army document hes referring does state that the women were paid prostitutes. What he doesn't mention is that the same report states that the women were coerced/deceived into brothels with promises of factory jobs. All of their earnings were taken away by Japanese housemasters(aka slave masters) who placed them in debt bondage(aka slavery).

Ossan left the last part out. Such dishonesty is why no serious academic takes denialists arguments seriously.

aintgottimetobl

You understand literally nothing about baseball if you take those rankings seriously.

Congratulations to Korea and the USA for 1st and 2nd place. Unfortunately, the tournament leaves a bitter taste in my mouth due to the blatant ethics violations by host Japan. Read the article below:

http://www.japantoday.com/category/sports/view/south-korea-beats-japan-4-3-to-reach-final-of-premier-12

As if that wasn't bad enough, what happened afterwards is just sad. Broadcasters announced that they would not be showing the final live but instead at 3:45 AM. Imagine that, the host country of an international sporting tournament refusing to broadcast the championship live because they couldn't reach the finals. Boo hoo crybabies.

The medal ceremony was even more hilarious. The samurai did not want to attend the medal ceremony as bronze medalists so they instead held their own award ceremony which was much grander in scale then the gold/silver awards. Imagine if this was the Olympics. The gold and silver medalists stand on the podium and are given a minor ovation while the bronze medalist is entirely absent. The bronze medalist instead gets an entirely different award ceremony; full of happy go lucky music, patriotic flags, handshaking, and shoulder tapping. It was as if the final between Korea and the USA didn't exist and that they were the true champions. Absolutely no shame. Completely delusional.

Even though Korea is the champion, the KBO has announced that Korea might boycott the next tournament due to blatant cheating and favoritism by Japan. Thats how bad the tournament was.

The Japanese side is incredibly childish. They're such poor losers. Can't they just accept defeat graciously like the other countries? Especially when you rigged the event in your favor. Screwing the venue location, screwing transportation, screwing the match date, and now screwing the broadcasting time of the finals. All because you lost to Korea and couldn't get to the finals despite rampant corruption. The only thing you're succeeding at is embarrassing yourselves further.

It was extremely satisfying to see team Japan lose on home turf in front of 40,000 supporters.

In other news, KBO secretary general Yang Hae-young has announced that Korea might boycott the next tournament(assuming there is one) because of the rampant favoritism and shadiness of the tournament.

I'm glad Korea whooped Japan. Japan was very shady throughout the tournament. They rigged the event to give themselves every single advantage short of actually paying off the refs. Heres a few grievances

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2015/11/20/2015112001849.html

Highlights

-Changing the venue and not not notifying the Korean team until the last minute. This forced the Korean team to travel an additional 2 hours to the match.

-29 out of the 30 group stage matches were played in host country Taiwan. The only group stage match that wasn't played in Taiwan was Korea vs Japan. The Korean team had to travel all the way to Sapporo. Very suspicious.

-The Korea team was notified at the very last minute that the semi final match(against Japan) would be held at the Tokyo dome one day earlier than what was originally agreed upon. This sudden schedule change forced the Korean team to wake up at 3:30AM in the morning in order to fly from Taiwan to Japan. A tired and jet lagged Korean team still managed to beat Japan 4-3.

-The KBO has lodged a complaint over the blatant favoritism and rigging by Japan.

What comes around, goes around. It was gratifying to see the Samurai lose on home soil in front of 40,000 of their supporters.

Good to see other countries embracing Japanese culture.... does this come under the 'Cool Japan' promotional campaigns I wonder??

Just goes to show how worthless Cool Japan and Japanese "culture" is when the epitome of their soft power is porn.

How typical

The majority of Japanese pre modern culture is a direct rip off of its neighbors. The majority of Japanese modern culture is a direct rip off of the west. Japan is hardly original. What they market as original culture, usually isn't. Plagiarism is rampant. What irks people however is whenever a Japanese person proclaims unique culture and other nonsense like "four seasons".

They should get over themselves.

Lotte sends most of its profits to Japan, even though they make most of their sales in Korea.

The company is basically a parasite to the South Korean economy. Koreans are rightfully mad and lots of people are supporting this boycott. Actions speak louder than words. The chairman who can barely speak Korean claims that the company is Korean yet we all know thats a load of crap. This conglomorate is notorious for its shady business dealings.

Hopefully, Lotte dissapears completely from Korea.

The un-coolest thing you can possibly do is label yourself cool and try to advertise to the world that you're cool.

LAME

sfjp330

Japan settled those issues on a government-to-government basis in the form of economic cooperation under the normalization treaty in 1965. In the treaty, South Korea actually agreed never to make further compensation demands against Japan, either at a government or individual level, after receiving $800 millions (over $6 billion today) in grants and soft loans.

This is your typical japan apologist red herring argument. What does this have to do with anything? The discussion was about Japan acknowledging that it used forced laborers in order to get the site approved in Germany by UNESCO. Only hours after getting world heritage status, the government flip flopped 180 and now claims forced laborers wern't used.

Thats typical backstabbing 101. I don't know how anyone can find such blatant fraud defensible. South Korea has every right not to trust such a dishonest country.

Mere hours after representatives of Japan cooperated with South Korea and agreed to acknowledge its war time usage of Korean forced laborers, the foreign ministry backtracked and declined that forced laborers were used. This was after a government representative made a heart warming speech of reconciliation and self reflection in Germany. So much for integrity huh? Say one thing abroad yet do the complete opposite at home. Agree to help each other and then stab them in the back with no remorse.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2015/07/120_182261.html

How typical of Japan to be two faced. Is it no surprise that Korea doesn't hold a favorable view of such dishonest and dishonorable country? I have never ever in my life seen such immaturity from a "supposedly" 1st world nation. The country is run by spoiled delinquents.

How typical of the Japanese to lie like that. Beg South Korea for UNESCO recognition, acknowledge to the world that you used tens of thousands of forced laborers, make a sorrowful speech to westerners, and then go home and tell your countrymen that slaves wern't used and that Korean laborers were all volunteers.

Flip flop 180

This is the most juvenile, childish, idiotic and dishonest thing i've seen in a while. Its pathetic for one person to do this, but the government of a country doing this is just downright sad. How can any group of people be this two faced?

Oh well, its still a victory for South Korea. UNESCO has already adopted Japan's acknowledgement of using slaves into the sites official statement. No amount of denials at home will change what the rest of the world sees.

Japan doesn't have cool culture to export. Talent-less idols, boring movies, childish cartoons, stupid looking mascots, etc. The outsiders they're targeting are the ultra nerd dweebs who are into things like AKB48 and Anime despite being over 30. Japan isn't what I would call COOL by any measure. In fact I feel downright embarrassed for them at times. Seeing women over 40 obsess over Hello Kitty says it all. This country worships childishness and immaturity; not just in behavior but even in appearance.

Tiring

Do you not know the difference between a single battle and a war? Battle of Imjin River was a single battle that occurred during the Imjin war(which consisted of several different battles). Japan lost the war and ended up losing 50-70% of its remaining fleet(and tens of thousands of soldiers) during the final battle of the war(Battle of Noryang).

Japan's success during the early battle of Imjin river had more to do with the army using European firearms(which Korea did not have due to decades of peace prior to the war) rather than actual military prowess. Just look at what happened to the samurai during the battle of Nagashino with only 3000 gunners. Hideyoshi brought 40,000-50,000 gunners during the early half of the Imjin war alone. He still lost.

Peeping_Tom

Japan was never an "obstacle for China's overall mastery in Asia", as you put it. If you actually study asian history, you would know that Japan was for the most part an irrelevant back water state that its neighbors ignored. Asian historical texts for the most part disparaged the country as primitive. It wasn't this advanced and militaristic far east power that you make it out to be. It was actually a poor, backwards, feudal state ruled by warlords.

Japan had two things that kept it safe. 1. Being an island far away from the mainland, 2. no natural resources. It wasn't because Japan was feared for its military prowess. On the contrary, historical texts from this period routinely mocked Japanese people as dwarves. Due to the lack of resources and distance from the mainland, no regional power had any interest in invading the islands.

Japan only became a threat to the region when they gained access to western weaponry, ships and factories. The battle of Tsushima which you mentioned, was won by the Japanese navy because of the funding they received from American, British, and Canadian banks. This money was used to build a modern navy. The Russian Empire on the other hand was broke and its navy using outdated ships and guns. The Japanese navy also outnumbered the Russian navy more than 2:1. Don't pretend it was won because of Japan's warrior spirit nonsense.

Japan is increasingly viewed by its neighbors as an irrelevant nation of has-beens. They arn't wrong. Its cultural, technological and diplomatic powers has all but vanished throughout the region. Japans future is increasingly dim.

To make matters worse, Abe and his moronically nationalistic cabinet are doing their utmost to sour relations with this growing giant: visits to yasukuni, war crime denial, and other hostile behavior. What a foolish move. They need to remove their head from the arse and establish a more mature form of diplomacy.

Must have smelled awful with so many sweaty, swim suit wearing people in close contact with each other.

Japans reputation for quality(a big joke nowadays) continues to fall further down the crap hole.

Japan provided non refundable assistance to South Korea for construction of roads, water treatment, power generation, schools, hospitals, etc... also as part of several actions as apology for past acts?

-First of all, those were loans.

-Secondly, this was done after 35 years of brutal colonization, heavy taxation, and forced labor of Koreans (which Japan heavily benefited from). Japan still hasn't returned more than 200,000 cultural artifacts that it stole during this period.

-Third, Japan profited heavily from supplying the Americans during the Korean war. Its what jump started your economy.

-Fourth, Korea doesn't owe Japan anything. Those loans were paid back decades ago.

-Fifth, If the Japanese government is so bothered by this, then maybe they shouldn't have rampaged across asia.

-Sixth, Japan continues to whine, cry, and pretend to be the victim. Its laughable how immature a country can be.

RIP

Bravehearts soundtrack was one of my all time favorite music compositions.

Hopefully, more and more Okinawans also find out the truth about how the IJA forced entire Okinawan families to commit suicide at gunpoint. How they tricked people into jumping to their deaths over cliffs in order to avoid the Americans who were cannibal rapists who ate babies(not making this up).

The solution is very simple. Both nations can abrogate the 1965 Treaty between South Korea and Japan. South Korea can give back the money they received from Japan. Japan can then apologize and pay the former comfort women. Directly this time. Problem solved.

Or Japan could simply apologize once and then tell its politicians to stop backtracking on past apologies. Worked pretty well for Germany.

The funny thing is, its Japan that is keeping this issue alive. Every denial adds more fuel to the fire.

South Korea always demands demands and demands. Japan is now very tired with SK. Japan should not reward anything for such a bad behavior.

Lol, its the Japanese government whos desperate for a summit with South Korea. Remember all the whining Abe and his government? South Korea is the one whos not rewarding Japan for its bad behavior.

Anyone want to take bets on how quickly Abe and his right wing cronies will put their foot in their mouth and contradict this "apology"?

I'd predict it will take less than 1 week. These people still live in the stone age and don't realize just how quickly information(dishonesty) spreads.

If you read the Korean net or news media, you will notice that most Koreans do not care a lick about Japan. Japan is looked down upon as a nuisance that should be ignored. Korea has no reason to respect Japan these days considering their weak tech, economy and cultural impact. Insincerity in past "apologies" only magnify this passive aggressive behavior further.

The Japanese net is the polar opposite. If you read yahoo japan or 2ch, Korea related articles dominate. The Japanese net is absolutely obsessed with Korea. The most viewed articles on yahoo Japan are usually related to Korea. Its gotten to the point where Korean netizens refer to Japanese netizens as "stalkers"(which they absolutely are).

Books about Korea are always best sellers in Japan while books about Japan in Korea are entirely ignored and never make the top 100. Try typing "Korea" in Japanese on youtube and you'll be bombarded with hate video after hate video. Crazy right wing stalkers obssessed with Korea. Type "Japan" in Korean on youtube and you will find mostly random videos and ambivalence. This just shows the level of obsession between the two countries.

I think the Japanese should take a chill pill and quit behaving like stalkers.

One of the first things you notice when you come to Japan is how great everybody looks.

LOL. Pure comedy.

Looking at the picture I am reminded of the phrase someone on the old JT Forum coined a few years ago; metrosexual pussies.

That hairstyle is only popular in Japan.

Elsewhere in the world, its called "wearing a mop".

Japan ranked lowest in terms of overall satisfaction with one’s own physical appearance.

Dressing well and wearing make up won't change things like small eyes, short height, short thick bow legs, bad teeth, bad skin, lack of muscles/masculinity, weak bone structure, etc. Traits that are more common in Japan than other countries yet praised in things like anime and dramas.

Surprised with Sweden ranking low on satisfaction. The Swedes I know routinely brag about their country being beautiful and home to blonde hair blue eyed vikings.

“Even though the presiding judge said a person shown in the surveillance camera cannot be identified as me, I was found guilty.”

Your fellow team members were the ones who identified you on surveillance tape as the thief you idiot. The man who supposedly put the camera in your bag does not exist as shown in the video. Quit making stuff up.

Typical Japanese culture of denying wrongdoing. The length these people will go just to save face.

Luce-A

Oh look, a typical poor revisionist argument. Arguing about the the number of victims is nothing more than a red herring. It doesn't matter if its 100,000 or 300,000. The fact of the matter is, Japan employed sexual slavery on a mass scale. The letter signed by those 450 scholars said it best:

"Historians disagree over the precise number of “comfort women,” which will probably never be known for certain. Establishing sound estimates of victims is important. But ultimately, whether the numbers are judged to have been in the tens of thousands or the hundreds of thousands will not alter the fact of the exploitation carried out throughout the Japanese empire and its war zones."

If you want to be taken seriously, quit resorting to weak red herring arguments.