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Posted in: Kishida says Japan will start 3rd COVID vaccine shots in December See in context

I would like an explanation of what the anti-vaxxers mean when they recommend ‘natural immunity’. How do I get this immunity without first running the risk of being infected by a virus that might be no big deal, but that also might put me in the ICU or in the morgue, or leave me with long-term organ damage?

The vast majority of young and healthy recover from Covid with no or little problems, and simple things can be done prior to infection as well as after infection to decrease the chances of complications.

I don’t think one should intentionally get infected just to get natural immunity, but if someone has already recovered from Covid, they have broad lasting immunity and do not need to get the vax, which comes with its own risks.

And regardless if someone gets the vax or not, they should do those simple things to optimize their immune system.

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Posted in: Merck asks U.S. FDA to authorize anti-COVID pill See in context

An effective treatment is needed anyone who gets infected, whether vaccinated or not.

According to Merck's press release this drug may be effective, but I still worry about its safety. I would rather go with certain very safe repurposed drugs that are just as effective.

Still, many prefer getting infected than vaccinated, they said it will give them stronger protection against being....infected

Many of those who bring up natural immunity are just saying that if you happen to have already recovered from an infection, you don't need the vax, you are already better protected than a vaxxed person.

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Posted in: Study highlights difficulty of stopping antidepressants See in context

Not a good time to stop, some antidepressants were found to be very effective against covid!

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Posted in: Tokyo reports 87 coronavirus cases; nationwide tally 602 See in context

Easy! Over 70% of the population has had at least 1 jab, and over 60% has had 2. Ever hear of herd immunity?

That plus natural immunity.

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Posted in: Can healthy people who eat right and exercise skip the COVID-19 vaccine? See in context

So we are expected to risk our health and life by taking a vaccine just because other vaccinated people feel threatened. Do you guys actually listen to yourselves?

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Posted in: Can healthy people who eat right and exercise skip the COVID-19 vaccine? See in context

Professional athletes, who I feel very confident in saying eat healthier and exercise more than anyone here, contracted the disease.

Some athletes that have used steroids in the past can get very sick with covid.

There have also been some professional athletes who had to put their career on hold because of the vax.

Each person should decide for themselves.

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Posted in: Governors call for securing medical system as COVID curbs ease See in context

The National Governors' Association want sufficient hospital beds, tests and treatments for the coronavirus to be ensured in a draft proposal to the government to be established by the presumed next Prime Minister Fumio Kishida.

It's about time they start asking for treatments. A number of safe and effective ones are readily available. Start using them!

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Posted in: Employer vaccine mandates convert some workers, but not all See in context

Non-smokers don’t have an “irrational fear of tobacco” and unvaccinated don’t have an irrational fear of vaccine.

Yes, very rational to want to keep your body healthy.

Your analogy is flawed as well, no one chooses to get COVID like someone can choose to smoke or not. 

But you choose whether to get the vax or not.

The part where a decision is irrational or not comes if the person can accept valid objective scientific evidence.

Naah, not getting the vax is "irrational" based on very selective evidence.

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Posted in: Merck says COVID-19 pill cuts risk of death, hospitalization See in context

This new drug will be approved because it will be expensive.

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Posted in: COVID vaccine to be mandatory for California students See in context

I am so glad I don't live in such a sick authoritarian place!

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Posted in: Organizers unveil COVID-19 rules for Beijing Winter Olympics See in context

"I wonder if those who recovered from a natural infection will be treated like other unvaccinated people, despite being more immune than the vaccinated."

i guess all unvaccinated will in principle be treated the same.

Unless the organizers become aware of your findings.

It is not Raw Beer's finding, it is a well established scientific fact, though the vax thumpers prefer keeping this fact hidden.

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Posted in: Japan to experiment with proof of vaccination at big sporting events See in context

But, but, the vaccine doesn’t stop the spread of the virus. It only lessens the chances of ending up in the ICU.

For a few months.

They are using this system to push people to do something they don't want to do.

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Posted in: Vaccine mandates: Is no jab, no entry into restaurants, cafes, bars, sporting and event venues discrimination? See in context

Many are talking about individual businesses to restrict the unvaxxed, but a mandate is "an official order to do something".

Vaccine mandates are unwarranted.

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Posted in: Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine works in kids ages 5 to 11 See in context

wrong flu is about 1/10 as fatal as covid, flu doesnt kill over 4 million a year

Overall, yes. But for kids, the flu is much more deadly.

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Posted in: Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine works in kids ages 5 to 11 See in context

Too many people love to minimize the risks of injection and exaggerate the risks of infection, especially in healthy kids.

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Posted in: COVID has killed about as many Americans as the 1918-19 flu See in context

They could have had so many fewer deaths if they did not reject safe and effective early treatments.

Also, obesity and other problems caused by the standard American diet certainly doesn't help.

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Posted in: Forceful vaccine messages backfire with holdouts: How can it be done better? See in context

Many healthcare workers too are holding out because they have directly witnessed many suffering the consequences of the vaccines.

Thinking their own personal experience can triumph data obtained from literally millions of patients analyzed in detail to see any possible problem with the vaccines would mean those healthcare workers are deeply unprepared to do their jobs, that require a good understanding of scientific evidence.

Data generated by others will not make anyone ignore what they have seen with their own eyes. And those generating that "data" have many times been caught falsifying it!

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Posted in: Forceful vaccine messages backfire with holdouts: How can it be done better? See in context

I know vaccine 2 vaccine recipients who almost died. This is why there are so many hold outs and why protests are increasing through out the world.

Many healthcare workers too are holding out because they have directly witnessed many suffering the consequences of the vaccines.

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Posted in: Political orientation predicts science denial: What that means for getting vaccinated against COVID See in context

This article written by a philosopher is filled with science denial. He wrongly assumes that everyone who does not follow the pharma narrative is wrong.

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Posted in: Forceful vaccine messages backfire with holdouts: How can it be done better? See in context

This article is about how to best push one narrative for a specific outcome (get everyone vaccinated), in other words: PROPAGANDA.

It is not really "health communication" to get people to be better informed to make appropriate health decisions.

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Posted in: Japan to begin discussions on 3rd COVID-19 vaccine shots this week See in context

Get two jabs to protect yourself from the original Covid virus. Get a third to protect you from the variant Delta.

But Delta is already on the way out. By the time they start vaxxing people for it, it will no longer be a problem.

Guys don't be such a crybabies if it has to be done every 6 months than just do it.

Just because someone wants you to get it does not mean you have to get it; it does not have to be done.

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Posted in: Medicine is an imperfect science – but you can still trust its process See in context

Pfizer and many other pharmaceutical companies have each been fined several billions over the decades for fraud (falsifying data, bribes,...), not for honest mistakes.

I haven't seen any sign of them becoming honest, on the contrary.

Also, seeing FDA members quiting in protest when products are approved is not reassuring.

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Posted in: What can employers do if workers avoid COVID-19 vaccines? See in context

@virusrex

That is a strawman argument. I am not saying one should intentionally get infected to avoid the vaccine.

But if you recovered from Covid, there is no need to get the vax. Natural immunity is much better than what you get with the vax and it lasts much longer.

So an employer should not demand someone who has recovered from covid to get vaccinated. That person has already acquired better immunity than those who got the vaccine but were never infected.

In fact, if an employer is that worried about the employees' immunity, maybe he should specifically hire recovered people.

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Posted in: What can employers do if workers avoid COVID-19 vaccines? See in context

Again, why isn't natural immunity being discussed when it's just as good as vaccines,

Natural immunity is much better than what you get with the vax and it lasts much longer.

If you recovered from Covid, no need to get the vax.

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Posted in: What can employers do if workers avoid COVID-19 vaccines? See in context

Most American states are "at will" employment states. This means, short of race, sex and age discrimination, employers can fire you for any reason including the color of the sky that day.

That is the law.

So an employer can require that all employees be circumcised?

Vaccinated people who are infected with Delta have the same viral load as an infected unvaccinated person; i.e., they can both equally transmit the virus to others.

An data from Israel shows that vaccines are only about 39% effective at preventing infection with Delta, and this protection wanes considerably after a few months.

So for every 100 people that get infected among a certain number of unvaxxed people, we get 71 infected among the same number of vaxxed people. Not very impressive.

And each of those 71 infected vaxxed people will be just as likely to transmit the virus as the 100 unvaxxed ones, probably more so because many continue to think that being vaxxed prevents transmission.

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Posted in: China bans men it sees as not masculine enough from TV See in context

Oh, bother.

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Posted in: Has Delta killed the herd immunity dream? See in context

Your main point was that getting infected gives better immunity. That's unmistakably arguing for people to catch (and spread) the disease.

I thought he was very clear. If you already recovered from an infection, there is no need to get the vax.

And if you are young and healthy the risk of the vax is comparable to the risk from the virus.

BTW, if you are vaxxed, you can still catch and spread the virus.

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Posted in: Bobby Kennedy's assassin granted parole in California See in context

This particular conspiracy theory seems to have some valid points, I think.

Uncertainty over Sirhan's guilt began during his trial, when prosecutors produced an autopsy report that showed Kennedy was shot at point-blank range from behind.

Witnesses said Sirhan was standing in front of him.

Over the years and in numerous appeals, evidence emerged that as many as 13 shots were fired that night. The weapon Sirhan was found to have fired could hold only eight bullets.

I think it was the cop that was escorting him, he was right behind RFK.

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Posted in: Bobby Kennedy's assassin granted parole in California See in context

Does anyone actually believe he is the killer?

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