TaiwanIsNotChina comments

bass4funkToday 12:22 am JST

Dropping bombs, threatening peaceful neighbors and teaming up with fascists is an odd way of doing any of that.

His way seems to be the better way overall, if making chaos is the only way to get what you need and what's best for your country, so be it.

So if we see russia in Odessa will you agree that your results based approach of allying with fascists was a failure?

ianMar. 17 08:11 pm JST

Both the ROC and PRC legally and officially claim there is one China.

Someone has a gun to the head of the people of Taiwan.

voiceofokinawaToday 05:11 pm JST

 Deployment in Kyushu would put North Korea and China's coastal areas within range.

 But Chinese missiles would put Kyushu within range quite easily. This is one of the reasons why Okinawa-stationed Marines have to relocate to Guam.

That would be up to the US to decide.

The eye for the eye, tooth for the tooth war strategy doesn’t work here.

I don't think Asia is in any way immune from universal principles of war.

TamaramaToday 04:57 pm JST

Declaring the other side's arguments red herrings does not make it so.

Still dodging the question. It's not even a hard one.

I'm not required to answer irrelevant questions.

TamaramaToday 04:51 pm JST

And just to be clear, history and most of the world disagrees with your position.

History says the disgusting PRC strongarmed and cajoled most of the world into recognizing it as the only government of China.

TamaramaToday 03:55 pm JST

There are political beliefs and then there is trying to throw down the government by nondemocratic means. Communists fit into the latter and the CCP especially did.

So just to clarify, you think the Kuomintang was democratically elected by the people of China in 1927, yes?

If the current rulers of the PRC are as brutal and nondemocratic as the ROC ever was, the PRC has nothing to offer Taiwan.

Two red herrings by you.

No, I corrected your factually incorrect statements - that's not a Red Herring.

You corrected nothing.

That gold belonged to the ROC.

Now you have changed your argument. Keep in mind though, the ROC is not a democratically elected government, they are a 1 party totalitarian regime, they were never elected to represent the people of China at any point, so they are just....stealing from the people of China.

The CCP was not a democratically elected government either. CKS was under no obligation to hand over anything to an even more disgusting group of characters than himself.

On point two, I'm sure Chiang Kai-shek had some inkling that communists had no respect for history and culture as the pattern of their Soviet backers by that point indicated.

Oh, I see, so you are just guessing that CKS may have had some thoughts that are convenient to your argument here? Give me a break.

The assault on russia's history and culture happened in the 1920s. I'm no expert on Mao Zedong thought, but I would be very surprised if you couldn't find parallels by 1945. Certainly Marxists are more interested in class warfare than in continuity of culture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_hegemony

You were trying to tell us that we can never hold up Taiwan as a respectable country because of the crimes of the ROC

Do you acknowledge that the Kuomintang was a non-democratic military dictatorship that killed over an estimated 1 million people in China during it's rule? Is that factually correct?

Irrelevant to whether Taiwan has a respectable government ruling it today, which it does.

Deo GratiasToday 03:51 pm JST

I suppose you think that private charity will solve everything?

JJEToday 12:17 pm JST

What exactly is a non-UN recognized entity doing at Expo in the first place?

11 recognitions is not zero recognitions.

The legal status of the entirety is very dubious.

Any country can decide to be among the decent recognizing Taiwan.

deanzaZZRToday 11:04 am JST

My guess is that Macao and Hong Kong will have their own pavilions as they are legally recognized territories of China. Taiwan SAR will be able to participate in these kinds of international events when its legal status has been settled.

The legal status can be settled by any majority of countries with a spine.

Again, why does she stick around?

TamaramaToday 03:21 pm JST

Anything would be possible if the disgusting CCP were removed.

That's a yes then. User name change coming???

In the alternate world where the CCP was thrown on the ash heap of history, sure.

Aw, poor communists. Stopped them from killing tens of millions decades earlier.

So what you are saying is - it's OK to kill people for their political beliefs. Aren't you American???

There are political beliefs and then there is trying to throw down the government by nondemocratic means. Communists fit into the latter and the CCP especially did.

If they didn't remove the treasures to Taiwan they would have all been destroyed in the Cultural Revolution.

Factually and historically incorrect. Point 1: They stole and looted $200 million worth of Gold and US dollars from the Chinese Central Government in 1949. You might consider gold and US dollars 'Cultural Treasures', but you'd be on your own there. Point 2: The Cultural Revolution didn't occur until 1966, and I doubt Mao Zedong gave Chiang Kai Sheck advanced notice of it in 1949. So that's a XX.

Two red herrings by you. That gold belonged to the ROC. If the CCP was so big on an communist utopia that would outshine all other countries, they should find their own gold. On point two, I'm sure Chiang Kai-shek had some inkling that communists had no respect for history and culture as the pattern of their Soviet backers by that point indicated.

I would say killing 30 million people is a crime that should not be forgotten.

But that's not what we are discussing, is it? You are attempting to change the subject and divert attention from the original issue, which I believe is called a Red Herring fallacy.

You were trying to tell us that we can never hold up Taiwan as a respectable country because of the crimes of the ROC. I showed you that there were far worse crimes by the people trying to wipe the people of Taiwan off of the map and that Taiwan today is quite different from the early ROC. Not a red herring at all.

TamaramaToday 11:59 am JST

Taiwan has, of course, never been ruled by the PRC, so if the PRC ever took it that would be an annexation, not "reunification." The ROC predates the PRC by several decades and is the only side that could claim to represent the "motherland."

So what you are in fact saying is that Taiwan would/should be part of China if China was a democratic political system, correct? Which is to say, Taiwan is in actuality a part of China, right?

Anything would be possible if the disgusting CCP were removed.

The ROC predates the PRC by several decades and is the only side that could claim to represent the "motherland."

As you should now be aware -- since you've been reminded so many times, the ROC was a non-elected Military Dictatorship that killed civilians (some estimates are well over 1 million) and communists,

Aw, poor communists. Stopped them from killing tens of millions decades earlier.

siphoned and stole US supplied money and wealth (a pack of thieves, according to President Truman and who Mao Zedong called the "Adolph Hitler of China')

You're telling me people thought spending money on a war not going well was a bad idea? Ya don't say.

and they literally sacked the country of China as they fled to Taiwan, leaving it destitute.

If they didn't remove the treasures to Taiwan they would have all been destroyed in the Cultural Revolution. You should be thanking Chiang Kai-shek everyday for preserving China's heritage in more ways than one.

This is one of the worst examples of Human leadership in the history of the world, but you like them merely because they have been around longer that the CCP??? You are happy to overlook their heinous crimes against humanity, but can't do the same the CCP?

I would say killing 30 million people is a crime that should not be forgotten. Neither should the disgusting the corruption that facilitates the CCP's cling onto power. In any event, Taiwan is the most democratic country in East Asia now so Puma unsmudged.

There's some facts.

Indeed.

JJEToday 12:10 pm JST

How many missiles is that going to cost? How come infinite monies are spent for Israel but none for Ukraine?

The latter is not related to core US national security by any shake, unlike the Middle East, which has actual resources.

Now tell us more about the bonanza of rare earths in Ukraine.

Having said that, the Houthis are doing a fantastic job at creating another flank.

And the Syrians did an excellent job of removing the russian colonialists. Only a matter of time until the remnants scatter.

Mr KiplingToday 10:07 am JST

I've been saying since the failed spring offensive that the war was over. The Dombas and south are lost. Crimea was always Russian and would remain so. The Ukrainians would get to keep Odesa as Black Sea port and that EVERY death from this point would be a waste. Sadly for some Russians and many more Ukrainians I was correct.

Putin still has his eye on taking all of Ukraine or removing its armed forces. This is direct from his public statements. Not at the ceasefire table.

JJEToday 09:54 am JST

Five: after territorial changes that reflect new realities, the new Ukraine re-adopts neutrality like Austria and Switzerland, and which it had from 19991-2014, thereby thus guaranteeing long term peace.

I think we can safely assume that surrendering territory and their armed forces are not going to happen.

FosToday  09:12 am JST

The US represented 37% of global military expenditure in 2023, according to the most recently available data from SIPRI. The White House spent three times more on its military than China, and eight times more than Russia.

And that's a great thing as you don't want weapons production for the free world too decentralized.

geronimo2006Today  09:07 am JST

Two scenarios.

One: Trump is manipulated by Putin and quickly gives in to Russia’s maximalist demands and then forces Ukraine to capitulate in order to claim a political victory.

Two: Trump isn’t manipulated by Putin. Trump negotiates a deal providing for Ukraine’s territorial integrity and gives real security guarantees. 

Which do you think is more likely?

Three: Trump is manipulated by Putin and feigns forgetting about the whole ceasefire thing.

BlacklabelToday  08:36 am JST

and puts another 100k russians in the ground.

just a bloodthirsty warmonger approach. Ukrainians will continue to die too. 

Ukrainian casualties are remembered fondly for delivering their country from enslavement. russian casualties are remembered as toilet thieves.

and Americans too if we stupid enough to support this continue as you recommend. 

If Putin is dumb enough to escalate a proxy war (but still a just war for Ukraine) into a direct war, then I am ready for MAD. It would happen sooner or later.

so your solution is just let’s fight until every single Ukrainian but Zelensky is dead?

Every russian dead is less territory they will ultimately be able to grab. This is all that should matter to an American patriot. It's also the will of the Ukrainian people.

BlacklabelToday  08:33 am JST

You: since it costs us essentially nothing

also you: 3 years, 150 billion dollars

So it does cost us something- both a lot of time and a lot of money.

It's money going into US industry we should be incentivizing. It's almost free.

kurisupisuToday  08:18 am JST

Long range missiles are an offensive capability.

So are nukes but yet russia has the largest number of them.

BlacklabelToday  08:15 am JST

Peace through strength has been activated.

Do you think the Houthis have been defeated again?

BlacklabelToday  08:20 am JST

4 years, 300 billion dollars 

3 years, 150 billion dollars. Just the facts, ma'am.

BlacklabelToday  08:20 am JST

So for those of you rejecting a ceasefire: 

what’s your alternative considering Ukraine couldn’t win with 4 years, 300 billion dollars and every weapon we had to give?

The US president speaks with a little bit of bass in his voice and puts another 100k russians in the ground. The process is then repeated until Kyiv is secure since it costs us essentially nothing.

BlacklabelToday 07:49 am JST

the antics of Zelensky in our White House cause several extra weeks to need to be spent.

No, the antics of the Manchildren in the White House brought them even closer to receiving a face full of the brown stuff.

bass4funkToday 07:32 am JST

Now subtract all the things we could cut back on if we didn't need to be in the Middle East and that leaves you with.... Israel does nothing for us.

Israel has no one else but us and given the ties, history and being an instrumental part in helping them re-establish their homeland, we will always be there for Israel.

Why is the US now instrumental in establishing Israel? Is this what they teach you in Sunday School? If Israel has no friends then it needs to reassess its behavior.

That’s why and that will always be, that will not change regardless who is President. The moment Biden started to walk away from Israel, I knew that was the end of his administration.

Because christian nutters would see it as a sign we needed more lunacy in the US administration?

• Trade Relations: The U.S. and Israel have a free trade agreement, and Israel is one of America’s largest trading partners in the Middle East.

Not as big as our treaty allies in Europe.

Europe can help its fellow brethren

On paper, yes. In the meantime the free world needs an actual leader and not a coward in the WH.

JeffLeeToday 06:09 am JST

The relatively recent rash of free trade agreements have led directly to the highest levels of inequality today since the 19th century.

In the 19th century the life expectancy was under 50. I suspect this was not because farmers were living the high life.

The protectionism and national industrial policies of the immedately postwar era were the foundation of America's true "gilded age."

What protectionism and national industrial policies were those? The postwar era saw the Marshall Plan and GATT. The US was the only country not devastated by WW2 so all of those years from 1945 - 1980 are suspect.

UnderworldToday 06:46 am JST

Next time and somebody is going to have to pay the price.

No this time. This isn't Congress where you can pick and choose what orders to obey.

They should be raising rates.

The southern island prefecture of Okinawa, which lies closer to mainland China, is unlikely to be a deployment site amid concern it could heighten tensions with Beijing, the sources said.

Not China's territory so not sure what Peking would have a right to complain about.

Missiles are an excellent choice to defend the nation. They have been used as such by the communists since they were invented with great success.