@GreenPeas: I read about that as well - seriously, if I was a scientist working on a new biological weapon, I wouldn't pick a coronavirus as a tool. There are much more efficient options available without much bioengineering necessary. Of course pollution makes lungs more vulnerable to 2019-nCoV but also to other pulmonary diseases, influenza, bronchopneumonia and such.
While cutting down on panic, could we please cut down on paranoia as well?
No paranoia here. On the contrary I believe it's mostly contrived. I don't know the real reason for the heavy- handed hype in the media and so on -- probably there are multiple reasons -- but there is a history of this kind of scaremongering going on with the real story coming out later when the news cycle has moved on.
By the way, air pollution in Beijing is even worse, so why not start there?
Because there were no protests and dissent in Beijing like there were in Wuhan. See the first link in my post above. I put those links in concerning the Johns Hopkins Center/Bill Gates simulation and new vaccine being developed because there is a lot more happening than what we see on the surface. ie; who stands to benefit from this?
If you're the govt you can increase control over the population and quell all protests and dissent, which was the case in Wuhan before this coronavirus came out.
The pharmaceutical industry and medical cartel can profit nicely by scaring the pants off people. Many will willingly line up to get their vaccine.
People will accept increased surveillance and won't mind a stepped up police and military presence along with quarantine.If this quarantining of cities is 'successful' in China then it may well become a blueprint and exported to other countries.
One Chinese researcher, Zhong Nanshan, who is at the forefront of pronouncements about the “new coronavirus” should be taken with a grain of salt since it was he who “discovered the SARS virus” in 2003 ...
Zhong Nanshan’s 2003 SARS “pandemic” was a dud. A WHO (World Health Organization) advisory against traveling to “infected” Toronto cost merchants in the city several billion dollars. Meanwhile, a Canadian WHO biologist, Frank Plummer, told the press he was shocked by the fact that fewer and fewer SARS patients had the virus in their bodies. Actually, “fewer and fewer,” he said, was approaching ZERO. Hoax. THE PURPORTED CAUSE OF THE DISEASE WASN’T THERE. People had ordinary flu symptoms.
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What I find interesting is that Wuhan is known as China's smog city and in recent years there have been major protests against 1) the heavy pollution and 2) and a new incineration plant to be built there. The Chinese govt is very sensitive to protests since they can spread to other cities and it doesn't want another Tiananmen Square on its hands. We've been hearing that one of the symptoms of coronavirus is pneumonia along with other respiratory problems, but it's likely that these cases are being exacerbated by damaged lungs and bloodstreams caused by Wuhan's pollution.
“The foul air of dozens of fast-expanding cities across China contains cocktails of toxic contaminants unprecedented in the range of pollutants they contain at high concentrations. Now, new research into these swirling maelstroms of gases and tiny particulates suggests that they may be incubating chemical reactions that compound the health effects in ways not seen before …China has the world’s most dangerous outdoor air pollution.”
“Three other cities listed as regularly suffering dangerous levels of four or five of the pollutants are ... Wuhan in Hubei province ... None of the seven appear in the lists of the ten most polluted Chinese cities published by the WHO or Chinese environment ministry.”
“All the five major pollutants in smogs – SO2, NOx, ozone, PM10 and PM2.5 — are known to be linked individually to increased risk of strokes, heart disease, lung cancer and asthma, and to rising hospital admissions and death rates during smogs. What is disturbing is that there is growing evidence of synergistic effects between these different pollutants..."
So could it be that the coronavirus is being used as a pretext to obscure huge pollution dangers and put down protests against that pollution, through mass lockdowns and quarantines? That's what one journalist with 38 yrs of experience in this area is suggesting.
What are the Chinese hiding in Wuhan?
Also interesting is that the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security together with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation held an exercise called Event 201 only 6 weeks before the first case was reported in Wuhan. Their scenario was a coronavirus escaping and causing a pandemic. They didn't discuss ebola, swine flu, bird flu but coronavirus. Coincidence?
Johnson & Johnson Advised Coronavirus Simulation & Now Stands To Gain Financially With New Vaccine
Wuhan coronavirus: China was warned in 2017 that a deadly virus could escape its level 4 biohazard lab - meaww.com
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Hostage justice FAQ = window dressing.
You can lie through omission and that's obviously what they've done in their answers. There are far too many cases of abused detainees giving a totally different story for it to be otherwise with Ghosn being only the most glaring example. Fools!
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Not talking about this case specifically but what the media always calls a scandal for politicians and other powerful figures is a crime if any ordinary person does the same thing. Too bad the media can't do their jobs properly and call things out for what they are.
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CitizenSmith - He must’ve done something wrong to make the wife so vindictive
Not necessarily. You only have to refuse to give in all the time to their irrational ways and selfishness (we're in Japan so do we do it my way) anymore.
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This brings back memories of the police being called on me for being persistent in wanting to meet my son, although I was never arrested. As with the man in this article I was still married and felt I had every right to meet my son. This happened a couple of times but once was for simply waiting outside a kindergarten at 3 pm with a video recorder*. Two cops came on bikes while a cop car turned up with its siren blaring. Not a very good image in my son's eyes but by that stage I felt I had no other choice. I always found the police to be polite and understanding, and they explained it was best to sort it out in court which was laughable.
It's ironic that in many, if not most cases how the abducting parent is protected by the Japanese system when the very act of refusing children all contract with the non-abusive, left-behind parent is itself child abuse.I carried a video recorder because I was told I needed evidence of obstruction.
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*...most of the AGW skeptics
Would be good if there was an edit button on JT
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ClippetyClop - What's a "farce" is the way some people just refuse to listen to the science
I'd be willing to bet that most of the so called AGQ skeptics here have looked at the science - it's hard to avoid when it's in our faces every day. But many of us have also listened to opposing views, the data and the corruption that's gone with it, and many have come to a different conclusion. I've certainly looked at the science on both sides.
and keep on promulgating the same old misinformation about burnoffs, arsonists and alleged Green interference beyond any powers or influence they've ever actually possessed.
In large parts of Australia, it remains illegal to remove trees from your land even in order to create fire breaks and protect your property — despite the obvious risk this ban creates to homeowners living in potential bush-fire zones. Trees have been designated a ‘carbon sink’, which supposedly offset Australia’s CO2 emissions.
What do you make of the following stories then? If the fines that were imposed on these men were not brought about by extreme environmentalism laws (ie; Green interference) then what was it? Where's the misinformation?
Qld landholder hit with record $1m penalty for making fire breaks too wide
Mr Marland has previously indicated that before Mr Baker commenced the clearing in question, he contacted 32 different Government employees seeking advice on the acceptable width of fire breaks.
'Illegally' clearing his property cost him $100k in fines. But when the Black Saturday fires killed 173, his family and home survived while his neighbours died
A Black Saturday survivor whose home was the only one standing after the bushfires raged because he illegally cleared his land, says property owners should be allowed to take matters into their own hands if authorities don't act.
Liam Sheahan cleared trees and shrubs within 100 metres of his home in the hills at Strath Creek, central Victoria, in 2002 to create a firebreak in case bushfires ever hit.
While Mr Sheahan thought that was a 'common sense' decision, the local council did not, taking him to court where fines and legal costs left him $100,000 out of pocket.
However his decision to clear the land was vindicated on February 9, 2009, when his property was still standing after Black Saturday bushfires devastated the tiny town. - https://www.dailymail.co.uk
With fines like the above would you risk clearing your land if you were a farmer?
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@TigersTokyoDome - You say the wildfires were 'likely' caused by lightning strikes but the Australian volunteer firefighters assn say that the fires have nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with fuel loads.
While the NSW Police Force has taken legal action against more than 180 people for bushfire-related offences since late last year. And that's only one state.
Police take legal action against more than 180 people so far during 2019/2020 bushfire season
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saying she's just a pawn of her parents, all the rest of it,
Looks to me like she's a pawn. And not just of her father since he's connected to the UN
Facebook Glitch Reveals Greta Thunburg's Father Posting As Teenage Climate Activist
A Thursday evening software update at Facebook accidentally allowed anyone to view exactly who is posting under the accounts of public figures, businesses and other entities, according to Wired.
The result? For starters, some 3 million followers of teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg have been reading posts written by her father, Svante Thunberg, and a climate activist in India who serves as a delegate at the UN's Climate Change organization, Adarsh Prathap. Thunberg, Inc. claims Greta is still the one writing the content.
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In an interview Thurssday with LBC TV, Ghosn said his case highlighted the thousands of unfair trials in Japan. “It has become now my duty to defend all those people to change this regime that the Japanese are hiding and they claim is a democracy,” he said.
This is the best news out of all of this. Good luck to him!
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A travel ban means no travel to Japan then? Great!
Their justice minister has already said they will not extradite him.
Lebanon has no intention of turning former auto executive-turned fugitive Carlos Ghosn over to Japanese authorities, Lebanese Justice Minister Albert Serhan told the Mainichi Shimbun on Jan. 3.
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Lebanese President Michel Aoun, left, meets with Takeshi Okubo, Japanese ambassador to Lebanon, at the Baabda palace in Beirut on Tuesday.
Haven't seen anything mentioned in JT articles or comments about the Lebanese govt's statement to the Mainichi on Jan 3, but the president-ambassador's meeting just seems like a waste of time. Good luck, Okubo!
Lebanon has no intention of turning former auto executive-turned fugitive Carlos Ghosn over to Japanese authorities, Lebanese Justice Minister Albert Serhan told the Mainichi Shimbun on Jan. 3.
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Up until now, yes. Just after I posted that another article appeared on JT saying;
Meanwhile, Japan's transport minister said Tuesday large luggage carried by private jet passengers will undergo mandatory inspections both on arrival and before departure. Transport minister Kazuyoshi Akaba said the measure was introduced as of Monday at Haneda, Narita, Chubu and Kansai airports...
Better late than never I suppose, at least from their POV.
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The reason Kansai Airport was chosen ...
*WSJ revealed that during a trip to Osaka's Kansai Airport a few months (ago), Taylor noticed a critical security flaw in the airport terminal for chartered flights: The security equipment used to scan luggage was too small to X-Ray oversize luggage. This proved to be critical: The box that carried Ghosn ... was not closely scrutinized by airport officials.*
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Accused without giving him any possibility to explain his version to the media.
Why does someone need to be given access to the media? A public figure might want to talk to the media to try and protect their public image, but it is irrelevant to the judicial process.
Agree with daito_hak here. It's not a matter of whether he needs to be given access to the media, it's a matter of basic human rights and his right to freedom of speech.
In a tweet in April Ghosn announced that he planned to hold a press conference and “tell the truth about what’s happening”. But just a day after the tweet the authorities effectively gagged him by re-arresting him. Arresting a suspect who has been released on bail is extremely uncommon. In Ghosn's case he was being treated unjustly, and he felt that talking to the media was one of his few chances to help level the playing field. So access to the media could have been very relevant to the judicial process to help get a fairer and more balanced trial, especially with the strong interest in the case.
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Almost nobody on that list is a climate scientist or doing any research in a related field.
My original comment was "Nor any of the other 10's of thousands of other scientists in related fields..."
Aren't the following related fields? You think these guys would have no idea about the role that CO2 plays?
1. Atmospheric, environmental, and Earth sciences includes 3,805 scientists trained in specialties directly related to the physical environment of the Earth and the past and current phenomena that affect that environment.
2. Computer and mathematical sciences includes 935 scientists trained in computer and mathematical methods. Since the human-caused global warming hypothesis rests entirely upon mathematical computer projections and not upon experimental observations, these sciences are especially important in evaluating this hypothesis.
3. Physics and aerospace sciences include 5,812 scientists trained in the fundamental physical and molecular properties of gases, liquids, and solids, which are essential to understanding the physical properties of the atmosphere and Earth.
4. Chemistry includes 4,822 scientists trained in the molecular interactions and behaviors of the substances of which the atmosphere and Earth are composed.
As I said before, this is only a sampling of scientists from one petition. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The CO2 causes runaway global warming crowd can go on believing what they believe but that doesn't make it true.
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From her own blog referencing an article about her.
*5 skeptical scientists: Lennaert Bengtsson, John Christy, Judith Curry, Richard Lindzen, Nir Shaviv*
I am very impressed by this article, and very thoughtful biosketches for each are included.-- Judith Curry
*Dr. Judith Curry is a climatologist, former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology and president of Climate Forecast Applications Network. She is in the forefront of the climate skeptic movement, often drawing fire from others in the scientific community. Dr. Curry and Anthony Watts discuss her experience within the scientific community, changes in sea-level and how climate change is not a clear and present danger.*
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You said tens of thousands. Did you just make that up?
The second url I pasted was the Global Warming Petition Project. This petition was for American scientists only, yet 31,487 of them have signed to date including 9,029 with PhDs. The site lists their names and qualifications. Then there are all the skeptical scientists in other countries as well so no, I didn't make that number up.
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They also wrote this in their letter and other things like climate policy relying on inadequate models.
The geological archive reveals that Earth’s climate has varied as long as the planet has existed, with natural cold and warm phases. The Little Ice Age ended as recently as 1850. Therefore, it is no surprise that we now are experiencing a period of warming.
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Tou said links to tens of thousands of scientists.
Please provide evidence supporting your claim of tens of thousands m of scientists. I’m also interested in the credentials of these scientists.
I gave you 2 urls and you responded within 6 minutes of my comment asking me to do the same again.
Here's a list with some of the scientists and experts related to the field from the first link. Other than that you're free to do your own research.
There is no climate emergency, say 500 experts
AS THE LATEST U.N. climate summit begins in New York, a new, high-level global network of 500 prominent climate scientists and professionals has submitted a declaration that there is no “climate emergency”. The group has sent a European Climate Declaration with a registered letter to António Guterres, Secretary-General of the United Nations. Professor Guus Berkhout of The Netherlands, who organized the Declaration, said: “So popular is the Declaration with scientists and researchers worldwide that signatories are flooding in not only from within Europe but also from other countries such as the United States and Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
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Why did you say various fields?
Before climatology came along it was geologists who were the climatologists as they researched Earth's climate in the distant past. Various fields means, meteorology, geology, oceanography, paleogeophysics and geodynamics, the study of ice cores or tree rings (dendroclimatology), the study of ocean currents, paleoclimatology and so on. There are something like 40 fields related to the science of climatology.
I have a background in science but I have no training in climate science, molecular biology and uncountable other areas.
So? Without a willingness to look at the other side of the story without bias that just makes you more susceptible to indoctrination and prejudice.
What’s your background?
Does it matter? Research with an open mind if you must know.
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When the narrative is controlled you're not going to get all the scientists who disagree in one link. But here are a couple of petitions to show that there is no consensus. There never is in science.
On the other hand there are thousands of links to articles showing that pro-warming scientists have fudged data and committed outright fraud (Climategate etc). You don't have to look very hard to see it's a hoax, although cognitive dissonance is a hard thing to break.
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What does she know about the science? She's only 17, is not a scientist and reads from a script. And she gets 24/7 media coverage for it.
But someone like Judith Curry who is a climatologist, has published over 140 scientific books and papers, and who says it's a hoax gets no media coverage. Nor any of the other 10's of thousands of other scientists in related fields who say it's a hoax.
Why does a teenager get nominated as one of the top ten influential people in science for 2019? Or Time magazine's Person of the Year? Who arranged that?
Greta Thunberg is named one of the top ten most influential people in science in 2019 for 'channelling the rage of a generation' - www.dailymail.co.uk
She talks about "putting pressure on people in power" but they are the very same ones who are using her to push their agenda, without her being aware of it no doubt.
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Surprised he's still got a Nissan Leaf in his garage! Old memories die hard.
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just when he tried to enter the zone where his uber-plane was waiting.
Nice one, uber plane. I was thinking the same about him absconding on a fancy private jet but then read it was a cargo plane he used. Leased under a different name it would arouse less suspicion. The bail conditions allowed him to travel freely within Japan of no more than 2 nights so it would be easy enough to get to Kansai airport without being recognised. But how did he get through airport security though? That's the part that I want to know.
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You do not need your resident card or a passport to travel inside Japan. All you need is a boarding pass, ID is not asked at airports or for the Shinkansen. I travel for work weekly and never had to present anything.
It is only required if you check-in to a hotel.
How about if you're riding your bike, say, and are stopped by the police? Have you never been to the kuyakusho to get documents? Or a parcel from the P.O.? You're almost always asked for your residence card. Ghosn lives a very different life to me so I don't know what situations he might've needed his card but you're right that it would've been required to check into a hotel (if he didn't have a passport he could show).
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Ok residency card then. I think you know what I meant.
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I guess to get a gaijin card you have to both apply for one and also be legally resident in Japan. Ghosn didn't qualify and would have been ill-advised to apply for one under the circumstances.
He'd been in Japan for something like 20 years so he would have had a gaijin card - why would they confiscate it when it's required by all foreign residents? He hadn't yet been charged with any crime and from the court's point of view it would have been far safer to let him keep his gaijin card than a passport - as far as I know you can't leave Japan on a residence card. Nor would it do him any good getting into any other country if he were to escape.
I'm wondering whether he went through normal emigration at Kansai airport or did he get help avoiding the usual departure channels? If it's the first then he would have needed a different passport to the French one he had since any passport with Carlos Ghosn written in it would have sent off alarm bells.
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