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Posted in: Japan may accept Russia peace pact if it can get back 2 of 4 disputed islands See in context

So, Lavrov's remark was a fake to absorb public protest?

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Posted in: Japan eyes informal multiparty talks over Sea of Japan name dispute See in context

If it actually is East Sea/東海、Japan actually is an western country in Far West.

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Posted in: Japan eyes informal multiparty talks over Sea of Japan name dispute See in context

Can IHO do something before it gets even a issue?

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Posted in: Japan to release new evidence on S Korea's radar lock on plane See in context

Not to mention hiding flags, ignoring Japan's radio calls in 3 different and emergency frequencies, now blaming P-1 mistook it for I-Band Search Radar from Coast Guard Ship? . Stop making silly excuse. Coast Guard ship also weaponized with missile controlled by such radar.

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Posted in: S Korean court orders another Japanese firm to pay for forced wartime labor See in context

@IloveCoffee

 

Because they were prioritizing economic development, and the issue of Nanking was not top priority.

 

Yeah. Yeah. Give us economic cooperation first. We will revenge later in return. Right?

 

Even the Chinese president said that to the Japanese delegation.

 

Chinese President? Who?  Didn’t know PRC has presidential government. When? normalizing diplomacy in 1972 or concluding Peace Treaty in 1978? Give me a link will you?

 

So you are actually suggesting that the Chinese side did NOT raise the issue of Nanking Massacre, and it is the Japanese media that did that?

 

Hello?

Back to the main subject. Your post was

 

They are very one-sided, they only report news or info that advanes their case or their narrative while ignoring everything else, they cherry pick facts, they make up half-truths, sometimes complete lies, and basically everything is extremely one-sided, you never hear anything bad or negative of England, just like you never hear anything bad or negative of Japan on the Japanese media. Both countries have a very distorted perception of their own country as well as the outside world as a result of being exposed to cherry picked and carefully worded information their whole lives.

 

Have you ever read Asahi Newspaper while you lived in Japan? When you say “They”, are you excluding those media or the reporters and academia or Association of Returnees from China? Who are they if not Japanese?

 

Same with SK. Of course it wasn't a well-known issue in the 60s. Korean war ended in the 50s. SK hadn't even begun its development in the 60s. You think people who can't find what to eat will care about social or historical issues?

 

Yeah. Yeah. Give us money and we will return revenge later. Right?

 

On top of that, if you had actually listened to what the Comfort Women themselves have said, you would've known that they did not want to even talk about their experiences. Only eventually they talked about it,

 

Yes I know. Kim Hak-sun finally showed up 1991 winter

 

and it became a national priority after the country became developed.

 

Why did S.K has to wait till it developed?

 

What NPO are you talking about? So you think the people of SK found out about the comfort women issue by reading an asahi newspaper article?

 

Too much “You think?” putting words into my mouth. Point where I said Asahi woke up entire S.K.

 

So I paste what you posted for the 3rd times.

 

They are very one-sided, they only report news or info that advanes their case or their narrative while ignoring everything else, they cherry pick facts, they make up half-truths, sometimes complete lies, and basically everything is extremely one-sided, you never hear anything bad or negative of England, just like you never hear anything bad or negative of Japan on the Japanese media. Both countries have a very distorted perception of their own country as well as the outside world as a result of being exposed to cherry picked and carefully worded information their whole lives.

 

Define “They” or declare None of those Asahi news, those reporters, academia, NPO and activists are Japanese.

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Posted in: S Korean court orders another Japanese firm to pay for forced wartime labor See in context

@Ilovecoffe

 

Drawing analogy to England, you described Japan as followings

 

They are very one-sided, they only report news or info that advanes their case or their narrative while ignoring everything else, they cherry pick facts, they make up half-truths, sometimes complete lies, and basically everything is extremely one-sided, you never hear anything bad or negative of England, just like you never hear anything bad or negative of Japan on the Japanese media. Both countries have a very distorted perception of their own country as well as the outside world as a result of being exposed to cherry picked and carefully worded information their whole lives.

 

Did CCP take up Nanking Massacre as an issue to be solved when normalizing diplomatic relationship with Japan in 1972, or concluding Peace and Friendship Treaty in 1978?   Never.

If it is such an issue, Why?

 

Asahi Newspaper and the reporter Honda Katsuichi had already started putting running story of Nanking Incident titled “Journey to China” in 1971. It is the leader of Socialist Party of Japan who suggested and donated to build Nanking Massacre Memorial.

 

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8D%97%E4%BA%AC%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6%E8%AB%96%E4%BA%89%E5%8F%B2

 

As for Comfort Women issue, You wouldn’t say it was there as well-known issue infuriating entire people in S.K going back as far as when 1965 treaty concluded, would you? or S.K government has been telling lies?

Lying that they didn't know there existed such issue and hence not covered by the treaty?

Starting from Ienaga Saburou, Senda Kakou in late 60’s and early70’s, Yoshida Seij in 80’s, not to mention Asahi News paper, and Japanese Academia like Prof. Yoshimi, Prof Hayashi//etc Japanese and Japanese NPO has been main driving force to make entire South Korea get shocked and realize how serious the issues could be. It is so obvious from the fact the strongest activity group Chong Dae Hyup has been relying heavily on Prof Yoshimi and others and the partner in Japan like WAM to sustain it’s long-lasting activities.

 

Other than Chong Dae Hyup which was organized much later on, the root of the disputes has been inside of Japan from the beginning.

 

Now I rewrite what you have posted. Think twice if Japan as a nation has been one-sided or not.

 

*T*hey are very one-sided, they only report news or info that advanes their case or their narrative while ignoring everything else, they cherry pick facts, they make up half-truths, sometimes complete lies, and basically everything is extremely one-sided, you never hear anything bad or negative of England, just like you never hear anything bad or negative of Japan on the Japanese media.

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Posted in: S Korean court orders another Japanese firm to pay for forced wartime labor See in context

I think that's largely a cultural thing, and it has to do with the island mentality and a culture of bullying and shaming people who don't conform to the group norms. It's the same in England. If you look at the way they report foreign countries, or issues related to England and a foreign country, especially recently with Brexit, you would see the exact same thing as you see in Japan. They are very one-sided, they only report news or info that advanes their case or their narrative while ignoring everything else, they cherry pick facts, they make up half-truths, sometimes complete lies, and basically everything is extremely one-sided, you never hear anything bad or negative of England, just like you never hear anything bad or negative of Japan on the Japanese media. Both countries have a very distorted perception of their own country as well as the outside world as a result of being exposed to cherry picked and carefully worded information their whole lives.

It has to do with desire to sava face and avoid punishment. In Japanese society, starting from schools, people who deviate slightly from the group ''norm'' are severely punished, it's the same in England. So for these people admitting guilt or wrong doing automatically equals punishment, which they are trying to avoid at all cost.

Unfortunatelly resolving the issue of history between SK and Japan might require cultural changes first. On the bright side, cultural changes are happening.

Don't know how long you lived in Japan but seems you're the one holdings onto what you want to believe.

Origins of all those disputes called, "Comfort women", "Nanking Massacre", "Forced Labor, etc" started first

from inside of Japan by the hands of Japanese. Look at what's going on in S.K. With anything you say pro-Japan, you would be socially crossed out. See the big difference?

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Posted in: S Korean court orders another Japanese firm to pay for forced wartime labor See in context

It's too bad SK top court could not call for scrapping 1965 treaty itself, scared of too much spurt of blood from all-over places (not just Japan)

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Posted in: S Korean court orders another Japanese firm to pay for forced wartime labor See in context

This information, however interesting, is still off the point as far as this article goes. The Koreans in question were forced laborers working for specific corporations. There is nothing in this article that remotely suggests they abused P.O.W.s So why bring it up? I see no purpose except to detail the discussion.

Unlike Ghosn's case which keeps dripping new allegation everyday, this news repeats the same contents except the name of different plaintiffs. I say it cannot be helped to add on some other flavors to keep discussion going on.

Either you could ignore or up to mods in case like when you see something about Hideyoshi

Excuse for my doubling the posts

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Posted in: S Korean court orders another Japanese firm to pay for forced wartime labor See in context

This information, however interesting, is still off the point as far as this article goes. The Koreans in question were forced laborers working for specific corporations. There is nothing in this article that remotely suggests they abused P.O.W.s So why bring it up? I see no purpose except to detail the discussion.

Unlike Ghosn's case which keeps driping new allegation everyday, this news repeats the same contents except the name of different plaintiffs. I say it cannot be helped to add on some other flavors to keep discussion going on.

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Posted in: S Korean court orders another Japanese firm to pay for forced wartime labor See in context

Re SJ's link, these statements start looking smart free advertisement by a industry facing structural recession.

They can go both ways to defendants or to plaintiffs, or as some intermediator.

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Posted in: Mitsubishi board considers new allegations of unreported payments to Ghosn See in context

Gee What the heck has Ghosn been thinking and spending all his days at Nissan for!

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Posted in: Chinese ambassador warns Canada to stop rallying allies See in context

China should have been showing it's true colors within Asia. Too swelled-headed to hide any more.

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Posted in: Lavrov asks why Japan only country in world that can't accept results of World War II See in context

Of course, the question then arising will be how many Japanese will be still young enough to have any interest in buying them.

Buying them? sending a couple of more Akita Dogs should be enough.

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Posted in: Chinese ambassador warns Canada to stop rallying allies See in context

I wonder what exactly Chinese community in Canada is thinking .

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Posted in: Lavrov asks why Japan only country in world that can't accept results of World War II See in context

You have to have a gun to fight against gangrapers surrounding you

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Posted in: Moscow says Japan must recognize all Kurils as Russian See in context

The word "atrocity" and " aggression" must have been defined in English speaking world in 1945.

You happened to realize humanitarianism in 1945 and needed sole evil Darth Vader to keep thing tidy and in order. Well Done as always

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Posted in: S Korea says Japan showed no definitive proof of radar lock-on See in context

Regarding Seoul's claim that the Japanese surveillance plane was flying menacingly low toward the South Korean ship, which is another key issue of the incident, Japan seemed to show partial acceptance, Choi said.

It's not key issue, their effort to replace the incident of radar lock-on with the menacingly low-flyby as if it were a fait accompli not working at all.

As expected, several media(Including that Asahi) in Japan already reported Japan MoD strongly protesting and demanding S.K DoD to make correction on it's untrue statements.

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Posted in: S Korea says Japan showed no definitive proof of radar lock-on See in context

Shouting, Spluttering, Pounding on the table. What a deja vu from how Korean academia was like at collaborative efforts for common Asian history textbooks.

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Posted in: S Korea says Japan showed no definitive proof of radar lock-on See in context

Speaking at a news briefing, ministry spokeswoman Choi Hyun Soo also said that in Monday's talks, Japan demanded all the radar data of the destroyer as a condition for disclosing some information of its own in connection with the incident last month. She criticized the request as "extremely rude."

"(In the meeting,) Japan did not disclose the radar frequency data that it has about our warship, which is a smoking gun, and instead only asked for information from South Korea. Such a demand is extremely rude and unacceptable," Choi said.

Is S.K willing to disclose any data in the 1st place in exchange for Japan's data? It is just requesting Japan's data, isn't it.

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Posted in: Moscow says Japan must recognize all Kurils as Russian See in context

Congrats all Abe haters haunting in this forum! If Abe-admin screws up against Russia, South Korea, North Korea over current issues, he would be forced to step down finally. I think.

Again no peace treaties needed with those thug countries

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Posted in: Moscow says Japan must recognize all Kurils as Russian See in context

War? The Russo-Japanese War 1904? In WW2, Soviet stabbed in the back, raped and killed harf-dead person almost waiving a white flag to the west. Everything the harf-dead desperately did was pure self-defense.

Aggressor? Which ons? Every single western powers of those days?

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Posted in: Moscow says Japan must recognize all Kurils as Russian See in context

Don't let Russia squeeze out of Japan any further. Let Russia pays for the price for pressing Japan to give 4 islands up. Peace Treaty is not needed at all.

How about replacing it with Non-aggression treaty once again, though Russia may scrap it once again.

That should be enough with the country

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Posted in: Don't shift blame over wartime labour ruling, Tokyo tells S Korea See in context

Another reason of my request of citing external sources is that it is difficult to understand some written English here, especially on legal expertise. Citation of external sources will help anyone understand its context, as most people here are laymen in legal issues, if the discussion continues here or in other threads.

@SJ

Well, I am not sure how you define laymen in legal issues in public forum. At the end of the day, in particular about constitution, I don't think you need legal license or such training, professional experience to discuss or have your own opinion. It's neither that you can not or should not discuss without citation, nor that you need to have license to make opinion but rather that the Constitution/Laws need to be rewritten easy enough for ordinary people to understand and discuss without citation or expert's opinions.

I am actually frustrated with the official remarks made by Yanai ( the one you often cited) about the way Japan treated individual claim rights because of the background he had to reply that way. (hope you know what I'm talking about) .

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Posted in: Don't shift blame over wartime labour ruling, Tokyo tells S Korea See in context

Whether you are legal experts or not, I no longer respond

You have just done. but thanks for responding to warn not responding. Please take it easy.

to your groundless arguments without any citation of external sources.

It's up to you.

Please cite other sources supporting your claim, *

You have enough key words already to search. Much better to search and think than to go through links given

so that everyone can evaluate its validity.

Honestly, there would be just a few still reading us.

Of course, I acknowledge your rights to write anything you want to write without any citation.

I wouldn't be interested in keep posting to the same thread unless I assume you know or you check yourself by searching .

Don't be so Authoritarian

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Posted in: Don't shift blame over wartime labour ruling, Tokyo tells S Korea See in context

I am skeptical if all those lawers had actually given permission to use their names at that site.

Lawyers usual don't give permission unless they are given space to explain their explicit position in endorsing anything since with just a name it looks as if they are endorsing it 100% with no comments towards the subject.

Well I am not sure either. They could have been just asked and gave their signature without knowing their names disclosed in public.

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Posted in: Don't shift blame over wartime labour ruling, Tokyo tells S Korea See in context

If I add minor points to denounce SK top court's verdict on this issue, though it clarified a few reasoning to waive the expiry of statute of limitation, it was not clear at all if it meant extinctive prescription(消滅時効)or period of excluson(除斥期間) or both. Those two have different legal concept. Period of exclusion does not need invocation of prescription, does not allow interruption.

Additionally, though I know S.K seems to have waived it to issue several anti-Japan laws, the verdict itself and exercise of the verdict possibly violate the principle of non-retroactivity (Ex post fact law) .

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Posted in: Don't shift blame over wartime labour ruling, Tokyo tells S Korea See in context

Just like you can have your own opinion and post here, you can denounce any verdict of any country as you like. You should be able to and that does not need any qualification at all. If you are a defendant and want to officially exercise your basic right not to respect the court verdict, you have appeal system and ICJ .

I hate these Japanese and Korean lawyers who like to issue political statements. By your standard, are they respecting the verdict made by Japan top court?

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Posted in: Don't shift blame over wartime labour ruling, Tokyo tells S Korea See in context

I forgot to add... whether Individual claim rights lapsed or not is actually secondary issue. For S.K judges, it was just lucky that they had Japan's court ruling as precedents to reinstate it's position without headache. If it is not lapsed, S.K government is the one the victims go and claim and they actually started doing so, aren't they?

Is S.K top court allowing the victims claiming against both SK Government and Japanese companies?

That's why I post somewhere else, What a mess, need quick traffic control.

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Posted in: Don't shift blame over wartime labour ruling, Tokyo tells S Korea See in context

What sort of qualification is necessary to discuss the verdict ? Legal licence?

Even super legal experts at top court, If you break down the verdict, major opinions and minor opinions are confronting each others head-on.

I am of the opinion, as I post somewhere else, the essence of this verdict is that S.K top court arbitrarily defined (with out not only the other party's but also International consensus) 1910 Annexation was illegal and interpreted the treaty as any claims directly caused by this illegal occupation are not covered by 1965 treaty, which is reckless abuse of judicial power of a high contracting party.

I am also of the opinion, Japan as the other high contracting party is of the opinion that 1965 Treaty finally and completely settled all the issues under so called lump sum agreement.

Lump-sum agreement can be refereed to, for example....

http://opil.ouplaw.com/view/10.1093/law:epil/9780199231690/law-9780199231690-e842

https://definitions.uslegal.com/l/lump-sum-agreement/

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