Biden authorizes Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range missiles for deeper strikes inside Russia

The weapons are likely to be used in response to North Korea's decision to send thousands of troops to Russia in support of Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, according to one of the people.

Good news for Ukraine. They can remove the threat outside the borders.

Good. Let 47 and Putin figure out this lockbox and realize a ceasefire is the only answer.

This will lead to increased attacks on Ukraine, that’s how Putin works.

Bidens last hoorah is this daft move that will lead to earlier defeat of Ukraine and increased deaths of innocents.

falseflagsteveToday 06:37 am JST

This will lead to increased attacks on Ukraine, that’s how Putin works.

Bidens last hoorah is this daft move that will lead to earlier defeat of Ukraine and increased deaths of innocents.

Do you think Putin will take the last of Ukraine before January 20th? Do you think appeasing dictators is the right approach?

Taiwan

Both men are dictators and rinsing wealth from their nations as well as their closest friends.

Putin has no intention of taking the whole of Ukraine of invading neighbouring nations as the fear mongering nut jobs have claimed on numerous occasions.

falseflagsteveToday 06:43 am JST

Taiwan

Both men are dictators and rinsing wealth from their nations as well as their closest friends.

Zelenskyy was never given the chance to be a democratic president before his country was heinously assaulted. Usually the stories of shopping trips and overseas properties come from Moscow.

Putin has no intention of taking the whole of Ukraine

Not according to some of your fellow Putin well wishers.

Yeah, time is running out for getting direct US involvement in was until now a US proxy war against Russia.

This will not end well for Ukraine (and US).

falseflagsteve

This will lead to increased attacks on Ukraine, that’s how Putin works. 

As if he could increase the number of attacks on civilians that he is already doing.

Bidens last hoorah is this daft move that will lead to earlier defeat of Ukraine and increased deaths of innocents.

Nope. It will allow Ukraine to fight this war without its hands tied.

@falseflagsteve Spot on.

falseflagsteve

Taiwan

Both men are dictators and rinsing wealth from their nations as well as their closest friends. 

Zelensky isn’t a dictator. Putin is.

Putin has no intention of taking the whole of Ukraine of invading neighbouring nations as the fear mongering nut jobs have claimed on numerous occasions.

Putin tried to take Kyiv and failed. He wants control over the whole country.

Also, if he took Ukraine, Moldova would be next. He is already interfering with elections in that country. Hybrid warfare.

falseflagsteve

I don’t support either side, I don’t cheer for deaths nor do I lower myself to calling the leaders of either nation’s childish names.

So why do you equate Zelensky with Putin? There is no comparison. Zelensky is defending his country from an imperialist invasion from Russia.

Underworld

Oh yeah, must be true. Zelensky will never allow elections again until he is removed which will be soon.

Taiwan

When you have to dehumanise to make your point then you have lost the argument. I comment regularly on any conflicts, I don’t care who ‘wins’ because there’s never a real winner, history has shown that.

falseflagsteve

Underworld

Oh yeah, must be true. Zelensky will never allow elections again until he is removed which will be soon.

How disingenuous. Elections are rather meaningless during an invasion. You are equating a dictator who is conducting an imperialist war against an innocent country and its leader who is trying to save his country.

Ukraine elections are not allowed while there is Marshal Law which will stay in place until there is an end to the Russian invasion and war.

Some posters claim to be neutral and then post very negative comments about Zelenskyy.

Wallace

Elections are allowed but he refuses to have them. Plenty to say negative about Zelensky bruv, check out the media reports about him before the conflict started, they aren’t positive. It all changed when Putin became the bogeyman and Zelensky the golden boy. Many forget Putin was treated like that 15 years or so ago by the media. Zelensky’s use will be over soon and stuff will come out to changed peoples perceptions.

This is how it works and people fall for it as they did with Saddam and Gaddafi.

falseflagsteve

Elections are allowed but he refuses to have them. Plenty to say negative about Zelensky bruv, check out the media reports about him before the conflict started, they aren’t positive.

Like what? BTW he was elected, unlike Putin.

It all changed when Putin became the bogeyman

Invading an innocent country will do that.

and Zelensky the golden boy.

By standing up to Putin to defend his country after the US offered an escape.

Many forget Putin was treated like that 15 years or so ago by the media.

No, he never was.

Excellent.

Time to push back and hit the suburbs of Moscow. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

Yep, this was bound to happen as the Dem warmongers have to escalate fast cuz they see their days are numbered. Any doubt now that Biden & gang are warmongers bent on WWIII? Shame on all who support and defend these evil people

Shame on all who support and defend these evil people

Eternal shame on all who support illegal, aggressive invasions, land grabs and fascism of Russia.

Strange how even USA managed to have elections in the middle of WWII whereas this comedian decided to forgo them a while back.

Underworld

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/11/images/20061115-1_d-0123-515h.html

its all out there for public view.

ffs

Not sacrificing democracy: why Ukraine cannot hold elections under the martial law

https://war.ukraine.ua/articles/not-sacrificing-democracy-why-ukraine-cannot-hold-elections-under-the-martial-law/

Ukraine Can’t Hold Elections During the War. Does It Matter?

https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/ukraine-cant-hold-elections-during-the-war-does-it-matter/

Strange how even USA managed to have elections in the middle of WWII whereas this comedian decided to forgo them a while back.

The USA was not under invasion or attack on the mainland. There was no Martial Law.

Wallace

But they can have elections if they wanted, there’s nothing stopping him. He’s a dictator, oppressing certain sections of soviet, banning religious freedom and surrounding himself with yes men after sacking anyone who differs from his view. He’s doing the same as Putin, two peas in a pod.

Many forget Putin was treated like that 15 years or so ago by the media

I,must,have missed that,Steve.

Which media were doing that?

Yet another story from Ukraine failing to mention how bad things are going for the Ukrainians in the east.

The targeting info for the use of these "wonder weapons" comes from NATO. So NATO is using NATO weapons to target Russia. Putin would be in his right to target NATO assets flying over the Black Sea. I don't think this will happen as the new "wonder weapon" will have no more effect than all the others.

Pukey2

Strange how even USA managed to have elections in the middle of WWII whereas

Funny how the US wasn’t being invaded in WWII.

falseflagsteve

But they can have elections if they wanted, there’s nothing stopping him.

How do troops go to the polls? How do people vote, when going outside is risking you life.

He’s a dictator, oppressing certain sections of soviet, banning religious freedom and

No. He is not.

surrounding himself with yes men after sacking anyone who differs from his view.

He has the right to select his cabinet.

He’s doing the same as Putin, two peas in a pod.

Dishonest take. Putin is running an imperialist war against Ukraine. Zelensky is just looking after his country.

Strange how even USA managed to have elections in the middle of WWII whereas

Not really.

The UK, under perceived threat of invasion, didn’t hold an election which was due in 1940. Ukraine has been actually invaded.

Maybe a better point of reference in this situation.

Mr Kipling

So true, can’t believe how many people lap up this constant flood of codswallop re Ukraine. The Spring Offensive springs to mind.

So true, can’t believe how many people lap up this constant flood of codswallop re Ukraine.

What media are you reading?

Mr. Biden could care less about the rest of the world now that he is on his way out.

falseflagsteve

Mr Kipling

> So true, can’t believe how many people lap up this constant flood of codswallop re Ukraine. The Spring Offensive springs to mind.

You claim to be neutral.

Biden authorizes Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range missiles for deeper strikes inside Russia

This is insane. In its last minute in office, this admin is playing with WW3. Are they that desparate to spoil the incoming admin?

falseflagsteveToday 07:09 am JST

When you have to dehumanise to make your point then you have lost the argument.

Only if you are incapable of reading further.

I comment regularly on any conflicts, I don’t care who ‘wins’ because there’s never a real winner, history has shown that.

You don't comment on the ME conflict or Sudan. You clearly have some need to appear first on Ukraine stories, though.

Underworld

falseflagsteve

Elections are allowed but he refuses to have them. Plenty to say negative about Zelensky bruv, check out the media reports about him before the conflict started, they aren’t positive.

Like what? BTW he was elected, unlike Putin.

Reality check: Putin was re-elected, while Zelenski has cancelled elections and outlawed opposition parties. Where do you get your information from?

Reality check: Putin was re-elected, while Zelenski has cancelled elections and outlawed opposition parties. Where do you get your information from?

Where do you get yours from?

I think you watch Joe Rogan.

Where should we get our information on this invasion from?

Links would be absolutely delightful.

falseflagsteveToday 08:02 am JST

Plenty to say negative about Zelensky bruv, check out the media reports about him before the conflict started, they aren’t positive.

It takes a while for a country to extricate itself from the russian way of doing business.

Many forget Putin was treated like that 15 years or so ago by the media.

Putin hasn't been a darling since the 2008 invasion of Georgia. You may be have been thinking he was still a great guy but nobody else was buying the Kremlin line.

This will likely be the last time the US government does something morally correct in regard to the Ukraine situation. It is smart of Biden to permit this, before Trump throws Ukraine under the bus (along with Taiwan, no doubt) and tells the world's despots that everything is fair game now.

ZaphodToday 09:20 am JST

Reality check: Putin was re-elected, while Zelenski has cancelled elections and outlawed opposition parties.

Russia has not felt the proper impact of their illegal war of aggression that would make holding elections, even fake elections, difficult.

Reality check: Putin was re-elected

With 88 per cent of the vote. I mean, they couldn't even make it look like it was a proper election.

The only people who think Putin is in power through the force of his political skill are Russian bot farm workers. Heck, they probably don't even believe that, but when your income depends on saying the right things...

Ukraine can fire what ever it wants and all it wants it doesn't mean anything.

Russia is capable to end this war in a very UGLY way if it wishes to.

There is no other solution but to start talking.

No word if authorization limited to Kursk region?

Jimizo

https://youtu.be/00JgUL57X7s?si=SvmFWTRMIOZ-PCA4

Check the audience members.

Erm what media? Are you having a giraffe? I mentioned the infamous Spring Offensive, we all read everywhere about how that would finally push the Russians out armed with shovels and empty vodka bottles.

Already poste a link earlier

we all read everywhere about how that would finally push the Russians out armed with shovels and empty vodka bottles.

I didn’t read that.

We all read everywhere? What? It’s this ‘everyone knows’ stuff again. It’s not serious.

I think what’s happening here is you are repeating what certain media said about the media in general.

This happens a lot.

Anybody seeking escalation of conflict has obviously little experience of a war zone.

If they had then they’d be begging both sides to seek peace!

Zaphod

Like what? BTW he was elected, unlike Putin.

Reality check: Putin was re-elected, while Zelenski has cancelled elections and outlawed opposition parties. Where do you get your information from?

Reality check: All opposition in Russia are either smeared by state media or murdered. There is no democracy in Russia.

As we all know the United States played a key role in generating and perpetuating this terrible conflict in Ukraine. The Russians are totally in control on the field, and will dictate the rules on the diplomatic front to resolve the impasse and bring back peace and stability in Eastern Europe. We really need to celebrate the change of US administration, not having to see around the likes of Anthony Blinken, Lloyd Austin, John Kirby.

Russia is capable to end this war in a very UGLY way if it wishes to.

Evidently it doesn't wish to, as it's been trying for coming up three years.

Are you insinuating that they enjoy engaging in a drawn-out conflict which they were sure they were going to win in no time at all? I mean I'm sure that living in Russia sucks, but to the extent that a three year military action against a country almost one thirtieth smaller than you is actually a preferable way to live?

(Then again the Russians tried it with Japan, which is 45 times smaller, and they lost that one too).

So. Much. Losing.

Tokyo Guy

Today 10:14 am JST

Russia is capable to end this war in a very UGLY way if it wishes to.

> Evidently it doesn't wish to, as it's been trying for coming up three years.

> Are you insinuating that they enjoy engaging in a drawn-out conflict which they were sure they were going to win in no time at all?

The one you quoted was saying Russia doesn't wish to end the war in a very ugly way

Does Ukraine have authorization now to strike anywhere inside russia using the long range missiles or just Kursk region?

Fos

As we all know the United States played a key role in generating and perpetuating this terrible conflict in Ukraine.

The US played no role in generating this conflict in Ukraine and the only role they play now is in allowing Ukraine to defend itself.

The Russians are totally in control on the field, and will dictate the rules on the diplomatic front to resolve the impasse and bring back peace and stability in Eastern Europe.

Putin can bring back peace and stability in Eastern Europe by withdrawing from Ukraine and stopping his hybrid war in Moldova.

We really need to celebrate the change of US administration, not having to see around the likes of Anthony Blinken, Lloyd Austin, John Kirby.

Not sure what the new administration will bring.

The US played no role in generating this conflict in Ukraine and the only role they play now is in allowing Ukraine to defend itself.

Sure, with $90 billion dollars in weapons, where the Top 5 manufacturers in the world are American, and no wonder Wall Street is on all time high :) We really need to thank the US administration to be so magnanimous, for the sake of helping a country which "happens to be" next to Russia

And just in case some of our participants wants to catch up with some history, Bucharest 2018. This is when the conflict started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0epyHOz-Pbs

Basically, Joe tries to do more damage to public decency.

Irony is this lame duck did more damage pre-electoral rout.

FosToday 10:59 am JST

And just in case some of our participants wants to catch up with some history, Bucharest 2018. This is when the conflict started:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0epyHOz-Pbs

So, it wasn't the evil replacement of Ukraine's government with a Zelenskyy dictatorship? I am very confused.

The Russians are totally in control on the field, and will dictate the rules on the diplomatic front to resolve the impasse and bring back peace and stability in Eastern Europe.

The russian is in control of only 1/5 of Ukraine and will dictate only what they spend enough bodies on.

We really need to celebrate the change of US administration, not having to see around the likes of Anthony Blinken, Lloyd Austin, John Kirby.

I'm glad you have such confidence in 47 but more than likely he has outlived his usefulness to Putin and 47 will do a 180 as he always does.

Watch what happens when Trump takes office. He'll probably reverse everything regarding long range missiles, take them away from Zelensky and give them to Putin instead.

JJEToday 11:07 am JST

Basically, Joe tries to do more damage to public decency.

russia isn't even on the chart of public decency so no worries there.

I'm glad you have such confidence in 47 but more than likely he has outlived his usefulness to Putin and 47 will do a 180 as he always does.

Before they part ways, I expect a 69 will also be involved.

russia isn't even on the chart of public decency so no worries there.

If the Russkiebots on here weren't so obvious, they might even be able to make Russia sound at least morally gray, but with their all-or-nothing hectoring, they really do show themselves up as ridiculous. "Russia is crushing Ukraine from every direction", "Russia is the most morally pure country in the world and Putin is doing the work of god", "Zelenskyy is Satan", and on it goes.

That is why we always recommend to check history books, not advice for investors distributed with the US military dispatches. The rest of the world knows the morality and ethical values of the current and previous US administrations: not credible

“Every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyyhvgZpleo

Tokyo Guy

Today 11:27 am JST

russia isn't even on the chart of public decency so no worries there.

> If the Russkiebots on here weren't so obvious, they might even be able to make Russia sound at least morally gray, but with their all-or-nothing hectoring, they really do show themselves up as ridiculous. "Russia is crushing Ukraine from every direction", "Russia is the most morally pure country in the world and Putin is doing the work of god", "Zelenskyy is Satan", and on it goes.

Some of those statements are downright insane. There is/are posters here who actually said those?

Someone is totally losing it.

Take a break from the internet lol

Considering that U.S. and NATO personnel are the only people who can program the missiles to strike inside Russia, this war will escalate into an East vs. West scenario very quickly if Ukraine is taken off the leash.

I wonder being shuffled off to the side at APEC prompted him to go 'dark'?

Anyone want to bet this 'gamechanger' isn't going to be as ineffective as the Kursk invasion, the Spring Offensive, the tanks etc?

Some of those statements are downright insane. There is/are posters here who actually said those?

It's called hyperbole for dramatic effect, but there are bot farm employees on here who regularly claim that Russia who have has total control, is crushing the Ukraine forces, etc. Thing is, they've been saying the same thing for over a year and the only "sources" they provide are from things like "MajorGeneralKickass" on X.

The first step to World War Three.

Still zero mention of the Russian breakthrough on the South Donetsk sector of the main line of contact. Look at a map - Kurakhove is in the middle of an ominous cauldron. The salient is being drawn in and the overall line is being straightened.

And there are zero NK troops involved there. Inconveniently, there are loads of former Ukrainians - the militia of Donetsk and Lugansk - now integrated in the RFAF. This is the reality certain quarters don't like.

FosToday 11:31 am JST

“Every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyyhvgZpleo

You really love that man or his president.

That includes initially refusing Zelenskyy’s pleas for advanced tanks, Patriot air defense systems and F-16 fighter jets, among other systems.

What a farce. Russia now has more Abrams than Ukraine. Recently the Russian army have started employing Bradleys to pepper UAF positions, with plenty of captured ammo. The F-16s are a poor joke on them and yesterday's mass-missile strike exposed (yet again) the fallacy that is the Patriot system (and IRIS-T, NASAMS).

Ukraine elections are not allowed while there is Marshal Law which will stay in place until there is an end to the Russian invasion and war.

Hmmm, I wonder if Biden's plan is to do something similar; to use Marshal Law in US to postpone transfer of power to Trump...