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Trump aides defend Gaza takeover proposal but walk back some elements

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By Jeff Mason, Matt Spetalnick, Steve Holland and Nidal al-Mughrabi

U.S. President Donald Trump's top aides staunchly defended his push to transfer Palestinians out of Gaza and have the U.S. take over the war-ruined enclave, but they also backed away from elements of his proposal in the face of international condemnation.

A longtime New York property developer, Trump drew rebukes on Wednesday from world powers Russia, China and Germany, which said it would foster "new suffering and new hatred." Regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia rejected the proposal outright.

Barely two weeks in the job, Trump shattered decades of U.S. policy on Tuesday with a vaguely worded announcement saying he envisioned transforming Gaza into the "Riviera of the Middle East" where international communities could coexist after nearly 16 months of Israeli bombardment devastated the coastal strip and killed more than 47,000 people, according to Palestinian tallies.

At a White House briefing on Wednesday, press secretary Karoline Leavitt hailed his Gaza proposal as historic "outside of the box" thinking but stressed that the president had not committed to putting "boots on the ground" in the territory. She declined, however, to rule out the use of U.S. troops there.

At the same time, Leavitt walked back Trump's earlier assertion that Gazans needed to be permanently resettled in neighboring countries, saying instead that they should be "temporarily relocated" for the rebuilding process.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio also said the idea was for Gazans to leave the territory for an "interim" period of reconstruction and debris-clearing.

It was unclear whether Trump would go ahead with his proposal or, in keeping with his self-image as a shrewd dealmaker, was simply laying out an extreme position as a bargaining ploy. His first term was replete with what critics said were over-the-top foreign policy pronouncements, many of which were never implemented.

Trump's son-in-law and former aide, Jared Kushner, last year described Gaza as valuable waterfront property, and on Tuesday Trump made similar claims as he called for the permanent resettlement of the more than 2 million Palestinians from there.

Some experts said the proposed actions could violate international law. Others described his ideas as unworkable. Human rights advocates said it would amount to "ethnic cleansing."

"Everybody loves it," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office earlier on Wednesday, referring to his Gaza idea.

Trump's proposal, however, appears to run counter to U.S. public opinion, which polls have shown is overwhelmingly opposed to new entanglements in conflict zones following lengthy military interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trump frequently asserted during the 2024 election campaign and since returning to office that he would end what he called "ridiculous" wars and prevent others from starting.

His Gaza proposal drew broad condemnation from Democratic lawmakers but confusion and skepticism from some fellow Republicans, while others praised the moves as bold.

"I thought we voted for America first," Republican Senator Rand Paul said on X. "We have no business contemplating yet another occupation to doom our treasure and spill our soldiers blood."

On a trip to Guatemala, Rubio, apparently seeking to counter the wave of global criticism, insisted Trump's proposal was not a hostile move but a generous one that expressed "the willingness of the United States to become responsible for the reconstruction of that area."

In contrast, Leavitt said U.S. taxpayers would not foot the bill and that Trump would strike a deal with regional partners.

Trump offered no specifics as he announced his proposal while welcoming Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to the White House on Tuesday.

'TRUMP CAN GO TO HELL'

Netanyahu, who met on Wednesday with U.S. Vice President JD Vance, would not be drawn into discussing the proposal, other than to praise Trump for trying a new approach.

But Leavitt, who described it as "something the president has been socializing and thinking about for quite some time," said Trump told Netanyahu in advance what he would announce on Tuesday.

Jordan's King Abdullah, who will meet Trump at the White House next week, said he rejected any moves to annex land and displace Palestinians. Egypt said it would back Gaza recovery plans, following a ceasefire that took effect on Jan. 19, without Palestinians leaving the territory.

In Gaza, Palestinians living among the wreckage of their former homes said they would never accept the idea.

"Trump can go to hell, with his ideas, with his money, and with his beliefs. We are going nowhere. We are not some of his assets," said Samir Abu Basel, a father of five in Gaza City displaced from his house by the war.

Since taking office on Jan. 20, Trump has talked about a U.S. takeover of Greenland, warned of the possible seizure of the Panama Canal and declared that Canada should become the 51st U.S. state.

Some critics have said his expansionist rhetoric echoes old-style imperialism, suggesting it could encourage Russia in its war in Ukraine and give China justification for invading self-ruled Taiwan.

World leaders said they remained supportive of the two-state solution that has formed the basis of U.S. policy in the region for decades, which has held that Gaza would be part of a future Palestinian state that includes the Israeli-occupied West Bank.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said, before a meeting with Netanyahu, that the Pentagon was "prepared to look at all options" related to Gaza. Experts say a major deployment of U.S. forces would be needed to secure Gaza if Trump implements his proposal.

'RIDICULOUS AND ABSURD'

An official from the Palestinian militant group Hamas called Trump's proposal "ridiculous and absurd." Hamas ruled the Gaza Strip before the war there, which was triggered by its October 7, 2023, cross-border attack on Israel in which 1,200 people were killed and 250 abducted, according to Israeli tallies.

"Any ideas of this kind are capable of igniting the region," Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters, saying Hamas remains committed to the ceasefire accord with Israel and negotiating its next phase.

What impact Trump's proposals have on indirect talks over the second stage of the Gaza ceasefire and hostage-release deal was unclear. Hamas has adamantly insisted it wants to remain in Gaza while Netanyahu has vowed to destroy the group and never allow it to again rule the territory.

Trump's proposal raises questions about whether Saudi Arabia would be willing to join a renewed U.S.-brokered push for a historic normalisation of relations with Israel.

Saudi Arabia, a pivotal U.S. ally in the Middle East, said it would not establish ties with Israel without the creation of a Palestinian state, contradicting Trump's claim that Riyadh was not demanding a Palestinian homeland.

Trump would like Saudi Arabia to follow in the footsteps of the United Arab Emirates, a Middle East trade and business hub, and Bahrain, both of which signed the Abraham Accords in 2020 and normalised ties with Israel.

But on Wednesday, the kingdom's foreign ministry said Saudi Arabia rejected any attempts to remove Palestinians from their land and said Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had affirmed this position in "a clear and explicit manner."

Itamar Ben-Gvir, a far-right Israeli lawmaker and former minister for national security, said "encouraging" Gazans to emigrate was the only correct strategy at the end of the Gaza war and urged Netanyahu to adopt the policy "immediately."

Gaza residents said after war and bombs had failed to eject them from Gaza that Trump would not succeed in doing so.

During a U.N. committee meeting, United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres told Trump: "In the search for solutions, we must not make the problem worse. It is vital to stay true to the bedrock of international law. It is essential to avoid any form of 'ethnic cleansing.'"

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This is a great proposal by Trump.

Nothing else has worked, and the result has always been Gaza being a hotbed of terrorism, so time to make the Middle East Safe Again.

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Trump is scaring Arab nations into taking responsibility of Gaza.

He does not really want Gaza.

Mark my words.

This is part of a larger picture (read the Iran article - interrelated).

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Trump aides defend his Gaza takeover proposal in face of global condemnation

You do have to feel a little bit bad for the aides who have to scramble daily to defend every incredibly stupid/ignorant/offensive/all of the above idea the Dumbest President in History spouts on a daily basis. Their job is certainly not easy.

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The one good quality that Trump consistently exhibits is saying the quiet part so loudly that it is impossible to pretend he didn't day it.

And he openly admitted that the US and Scofflaw regime are trying to remove the population of Palestine from the remaining fragments of Palestine where they are the acknowledged majority.

That it also exposes a truth that so many have been trying to bury for a long time, that the only legal place to move the Refugees from Gaza is right back into what for lifetimes was ubiquitously called Palestine but is now, in many parts of the world, mistakenly called Israel, and, indeed, it is the one place where preventing them from going and being citizens is a Crime Against Humanity, and them going there forcibly is not even a crime, let alone terrorism or racism or a crime against humanity, is being steadfastly ignored and reburied by those who buried it in the first place.

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Russia will definitely get a part of Ukraine. Any visionary will know China gets Taiwan without war in a matter of time. The only one without any territorial gains is the U.S.

Trump would greatly protect US interests with Greenland, Panama and Gaza. This isn’t about MAGAZA but Trump reversing America’s decline.

1) The Arctic access keeps Putin and Xi honest there with Greenland.

2) The U.S. would significantly stabilize and contribute to peace in the Middle East with Gaza.

3) The Panama Canal is a must response by the U.S. to Peru’s Chancay Port, part of China’s Belt Road Initiative and the Atlantic Pacific Ocean connecting transcontinental high speed railway (350km/hr) through Brazil.

Greenland Panama and Gaza is the way to go for Trump. GPG will bring about a stable multipolar / tripolar world through deterrence without necessary wars.

You guys got a great leader in Trump but you don’t really realize it. You don’t like him but that is a very small whiny complaint to put up with for such ginormous gains.

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How about making the Gaza Strip a secular society?

Being a colony of the US isn’t such a bad idea, is it?

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He does things like a NY real estate developer - float an outrageous offer to loosen up the middle ground and knock the other party off balance, opening the way for counter offers.

Watch the actual press conference, the one moment Netanyahu wasn't smirking, and had a frown on his face, was when DJT appeared to rule out Israeli control. This slipped through the cracks in much of the media coverage.

He has already ruled out paying anything. There is more of a wider plan.

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Gaza as a colony is worth the peace in the East. Someone has to remove all that concrete rubble and only China and the U.S. can rebuild on that scale. It is definitely not going to be China and the visionary Trump easily sees the potential.

If done right, it is a win win situation.

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So who is the real super power and master here?

https://www.wionews.com/world/watch-as-trump-pulls-a-chair-for-netanyahu-netizens-ask-whos-president-of-united-states-8693346

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlINEkmXE8U

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Putting all those refugees to another country, that has been tried before.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/01/pakistan-renewed-arrests-detention-and-harassment-of-afghan-refugees-must-stop/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghans_in_Pakistan

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You do have to feel a little bit bad for the aides who have to scramble daily to defend every incredibly stupid/ignorant/offensive/all of the above idea

Unlike Democrats, conservatives are allowed to have a thought and are able to digress, they may be overridden, but dissent is allowed.

the Dumbest President in History spouts on a daily basis. Their job is certainly not easy.

Beat every Democrat, got the House and Senate, not bad for a dumb guy, now imagine if he were smart….ROFL!

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kurisupisu

How about making the Gaza Strip a secular society?

How about you leave them to do as they please.

Being a colony of the US isn’t such a bad idea, is it?

Yes, it's a terrible idea that reflects Trump's stupendously simplistic thinking.

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JJE

He does things like a NY real estate developer - float an outrageous offer to loosen up the middle ground and knock the other party off balance, opening the way for counter offers.

Yes, he doesn't understand how foreign policy works and isn't willing to learn.

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Will it be you or your sons /daughters going into Gaza to remove Hamas. Hamas totally embarrass the Terrorist group the IDF who fail horrendously. Do you really want to embarrass the USA arm forces when they fail to remove Hamas. The USA armed force could not remove the Viet Com from their tunnel system and got their rear end smash like Pastie and had run away in total embarrassment. Because that what will happen if USA armed forces attempt to do so. Hoo Hah Hamas.

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"Israel PM: Americans Easily Manipulated - Benjamin Netanyahu"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mt_JBEoGMQ&ab_channel=ReasonReport

Things have not changed in over 20 years...

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How about you leave them to do as they please.

And have kidnapping and cause tens of thousands to die? This is no different from being a Good Samaritan, different from colonialism and exploitation.

You want them to continue to live five more decades in all that concrete rubble with incessant insurrection amidst insecurity?

Some situations require stabilization but the stabilizing agent getting something out of it is only natural.

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How about this?

Offer everybody in Gaza a U.S. passport or U.S. citizenship while granting them the option to remain in Gaza? Or maybe give them a U.S. territory someplace else with U.S. protection and assistance?

Instead of looking outward for other countries to take them in, look inward. It might be a lot easier.

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quercetum

How about you leave them to do as they please.

And have kidnapping and cause tens of thousands to die? This is no different from being a Good Samaritan, different from colonialism and exploitation.

The Palestinian people kidnapped nobody.

You want them to continue to live five more decades in all that concrete rubble with incessant insurrection amidst insecurity?

No. Give Palestine back to the Palestinians. And have Israel pay for rebuilding all that concrete rubble.

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Offer everybody in Gaza a U.S. passport or U.S. citizenship while granting them the option to remain in Gaza?

I like your idea stormcrow. I'd get behind that.

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It's probably one of the worst proposals by a US President in history, and there have been a few.

It's on par with Russia invading the Ukraine, and much worse that the idea of China reuniting Taiwan.

It's ludicrous in the extreme, the ultra-national Israeli factions can't even hide their glee (Netanyahu's face at the joint press conference, anyone???).

So, let's stop for a minute and consider amongst all of this, what the Palestinians want, for whom Gaza has been their homeland for several thousand years. Their US backed overlords have razed their homeland, then the sponsor of the decimation steps in and literally says; 'Nice job, we think we might take this for ourselves.' Imagine how they must feel right now. Stunned, I imagine. Absolutely stunned to the core.

It beggars belief, and if you are an American with any shred of international fairness and integrity, you have to be deeply ashamed of what Trump has said. It's morally and legally abhorrent.

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History is littered with people who wanted power. Absolute power absolutely corrupts. Hitler wanted more land and to subjugate people to his will. Make no mistake, the same is happening here. And to think, Trump wants to let go many federal employees in the CIA? Giving more reasons for others to hate America, and weakening your intelligence agency is a recipe for disaster. We should all be worried.

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 Or maybe give them a U.S. territory someplace else with U.S. protection and assistance?

Greenland perhaps.

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This something an ignorant and educated person would say, even people around him him should counsel him from being ignorant

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And some Americans still wonder why the anti-American sentiment has grown at an incredible speed around the world in the past 2 weeks... Unbelievable.

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Yes, it's a terrible idea that reflects Trump's stupendously simplistic thinking.

Spot on. Trump thinks it's just so easy to go into an area where he knows nothing about the history and the reason why there has been a long history of war and violence. You don't just go into someone's backyard thinking you can make it better. How arrogant is that?

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What trump is talking about is forced displacement, which is a war crime.

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bass4funkToday  07:31 am JST

Unlike Democrats, conservatives are...

Whatever.

quercetumToday  07:47 am JST

And have kidnapping and cause tens of thousands to die? This is no different from being a Good Samaritan, different from colonialism and exploitation.

Oh right - sending in the troops to evict the Palestinians so Trump can fill the place up with casinos, resort hotels and golf courses is no different at all.

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With Trump it feels like April fool's every day. Thank you USA for the daily laughs

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Nearly every building is ruble. Pushing everything away is the easiest method to rebuild. It is also the easiest way to wipe away proof of what happened and belittle the deaths in Gaza.

Whoever rebuilds could do like Russia did to the US Embassy in Moscow https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp90-00965r000302310013-2 and fill the walls with listening devices, used the steel beams as antennas, etc, which is why the US Consul bulldozed everything and imported American construction workers to build it fresh again.

Hamas doesn't want that and wouldn't trust the US not to do something similar as Russia did. Hamas can't be trusted NOT to build tunnels between every building. So, the Palestinians who want to live in Gaza will live in ruble, if they return.

So we have Hamas who can't be trusted. Israel who can't be trusted. The US who can't be trusted and very few others who are willing, except with terrible loan rates.

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This is the same energy they had when trying to convince Native Americans to share their land

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Trump aides defend his Gaza takeover proposal in face of global condemnation

Of course they do - they're just breathing bots - they don't think, they just parrot whatever their Orange Oracle tells them to...

If Trump wants to send them somewhere, send them to Texas - that's Trump country and the Gov will bend over backward to suck-up to him...

Musk will be glad to hire all the Palestinian tech workers and fire all his higher-paid US ones...

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Unlike Democrats, conservatives are allowed to have a thought and are able to digress,

Oh conservatives certainly are "able to digress". Digressions, whataboutisms, deflections, obfuscation, misinformation... All things they're great at. Governing properly? Not at all. But hey, drinking liberal tears is the only thing that counts, right?

now imagine if he were smart….ROFL!

If he were smart, he might be a good president. But by your own admission, he isn't.

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Nearly every building is ruble. Pushing everything away is the easiest method to rebuild. It is also the easiest way to wipe away proof of what happened and belittle the deaths in Gaza.

I'm all for a rebuild. However, it should be in a way that is appealing to the people who are to live there. Build it in a way that will honor and respect the history, religion, and traditions of that area. Introducing casinos to Muslims is not the way to go. Communication with the people who are to live there is important. Communication with neighboring countries as well. Don't just say "I want to build it the way I want to build it".

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Oh, and a rebuild should be done with the cooperation of many countries; not just one.

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The aide, reading from a prepared script written with a sharpie, had the following to say while constantly looking nervously over his shoulder.

"Since President Trump took office, he has already sent the stock market to the highest it has ever been, ended the conflict in Ukraine, deported every single person from the US who shouldn't be there, and won the world heavyweight boxing championship. In light of this, a few small changes to his Gaza plan can surely be overlooked, nice family you have there, be a shame if anything happened to them".

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Today one of the new crazy US president "idea" is to build some trump tower and casino in Gaza... what is next?

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What trump is talking about is forced displacement, which is a war crime.

Still some american will defend him and his "ideas"....

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President Trump thoughts as to basic land right ownership won’t pass even the most tests scrutiny of international law. 

Understanding the status of land rights for sustainable reconstruction of the Gaza strip and the west bank

Briefing note on the Occupied Palestinian Territory

https://www.un.org/unispal/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/cd1805en.pdf.

Both the Gaza Strip, West Bank are simply not US government property.

Neither to be brought or sold.

Any long-term reconstruction will need the full support of the Arab world. Neighbour’s allies vested political interests, entities yet to stake a claim.   

Trump is trolling, pulling the mullahs in Iran beards.

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There's a theory going around social media that every time Vice President Trump makes an outrageous statement, it's to distract from something. In this case, he got handed his fat orange butt by Trudeau and Sheinbaum, so he comes up with this "let's turn Gaza into Trumpland Amusement Park" stunt. Now that he's gone back on that, you have to wonder what's coming next. Invasion of Luxembourg, maybe? New law stating that all women of child bearing age are to have a blonde, blue-eyed baby within the next two years on pain of imprisonment? Nah, let's replace the dollar with a novelty meme coin as its official currency.

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Excuse my sense of humour,

The photo above, is the guy seated contemplating whether to renovate his beach front property, or invite Jared Kushner, Donald Trump, Benjamin Netanyahu to submit an offer?

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Loved the optics of the announcement.

Trump in his normal "off the cuff" blabbering, with Bibi on the squirm esp when Trump was raving about the destruction. Pure theatre,

And if anyone wanted more laughs, just watch Fox news stories on this. Fawning couldn't get any better.

Trump's 1st 2 weeks have been a mish-mash of "I am strong-man" tactics with a chaotic crash, bash, dash, cut and slice approach to everything resulting in something akin to a "Laurel & Hardy" skit.

We laughed at those comedies because they were not real - but we're laughing at the Trump show because it is real - lol.

And sadly it's real for millions of Palestinians.

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RFK Jr isn't the only one with something in his head.

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U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio also said the idea was for Gazans to leave the territory for an "interim" period of reconstruction and debris-clearing.

yeh and after the zionists have moved in they will never be allowed to move back…

another brain fart from The Donald…no doubt encouraged by Adeleson who gave him 100 mill for the election…

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With Trump it feels like April fool's every day. Thank you USA for the daily laughs

Exactlly!

Have you seen the wasteful spending DOGE has uncoverd so far? April fools indeed!

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Bloody Hell, Trump just keeps on giving.

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"Everybody loves it," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office earlier on Wednesday, referring to his Gaza idea.

Deluded as ever. Even his aides ‘staunchly’ defended him by walking it back.

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Geeter Mckluskie

Have you seen the wasteful spending DOGE has uncoverd so far?

Like what?

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And sadly it's real for millions of Palestinians.

If I were Palestinian, I'd rather Trump influence my destiny than Hammas. I'd take a Gaza that resembles the Riviera over a Gaza that is a massive underground terror outpost with the people above living in abject poverty while the leaders of Hammas live in luxury off of money donated to help its citizens. Perhaps the Israelies can teach them how to turn dirt into rich soil and verdant land with their advance farming techinques...and show them what a democracy looks like. Beats being lorded over by terrorists hell-bent on the carnage of its own people for political and ideological succour.

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Nearly every building is ruble.

Freudian slip?

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Nearly every building is ruble.

Freudian slip? Bob Fosse

I was thinking that myself. As much as Netanyahu clearly enjoyed Trump describing the complete and total destruction of Gaza he has caused over the last 15 months he is also probably inadvertently helping the genocide case against Israel.

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Perhaps the Israelies can. . . show them what a democracy looks like. - Geeter Mckluskie

Kind of hard to lead the way on that one whilst also illegally occupying them.

It's a bit like a morbidly obese 600lb McDonalds addict showing someone what a diet looks like.

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It’s not about casinos or towers but US presence bringing stability.

*If I were Palestinian, I'd rather Trump influence my destiny than Hammas. I'd take a Gaza that resembles the Riviera over a Gaza that is a massive underground terror outpost with the people above living in abject poverty while the leaders of Hammas live in luxury off of money donated to help its citizens. *

Well said. People think of New Jersey casinos instead of stabilization then rebuilding. Channel some that resort development mentality into housing and stabilization.

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At a White House briefing on Wednesday, press secretary Karoline Leavitt hailed his Gaza proposal as historic "outside of the box" 

I suppose you could describe injecting disinfectant as ‘thinking outside the box’

A very useful expression in certain situations and when dealing with certain people. Just don’t smirk or giggle when delivering it.

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""Trump can go to hell, with his ideas, with his money, and with his beliefs. We are going nowhere. We are not some of his assets," said Samir Abu Basel""

Mildly putting it.

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Have you seen the wasteful spending DOGE has uncoverd so far? April fools indeed!

As clueless as ever. Nice try but not funny

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Geeter MckluskieToday  09:26 am JST

And sadly it's real for millions of Palestinians.

If I were Palestinian...

But you're not.

I'd take a Gaza that resembles the Riviera...

Never going to happen.

Perhaps the Israelies can teach them how to turn dirt into rich soil and verdant land with their advance farming techinques...

They won't.

and show them what a democracy looks like.

Run by crooks and ultranationalist religious extremists.

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The commenter GuruMick justified the October 7 massacre/rape, in yesterday's discussion thread, by saying as follows (among other things):

all kibutz function as military outposts. Legitimate target

A kibutz is a village populated by families. Are the babies, the toddlers, the elderly, the woman and the man, the civilians - a legitimate target? Is it legitimate to open, by using force, a room where a family is hiding, and set fire to the room with the family?

According to the view of Hamas every Israeli village, town or city is a settelement, and every Jew is a settler, a legitimate target for slaughter. Hamas is not interested in establishing a Palestinian state. They are interested in Itbakh el Yahud - butcher the Jews. These murderers must be eliminated.

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quercetum

It’s not about casinos or towers but US presence bringing stability.

Because that's worked a lot in the past...

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It’s not about casinos or towers but US presence bringing stability.

Because that's worked a lot in the past...

A crazy idea is having Palestinian Arabs rebuild next to Israel.

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"ridiculous and absurd."

Yes. That pretty much sums it up. Actually, it's even stupider and potentially more dangerous than that. They will retailiate with terrorist attacks against the US if they lose their lands and see the US behind this naked land grab. Let's hope nothing comes from it, and we all just have our daily morning laugh at President Stupid.

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A major international debacle could be the only way to fully discredit this set of Dunning-Krugers.

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"Trump can go to hell…," said Samir Abu Basel, a father of five in Gaza City displaced from his house by the war.

I’m sure Trump has no intention of actually going to Gaza, but he’s probably appreciative of the invitation.

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A kibutz is a village populated by families.

Here comes the spokesperson of Netanyahu, starting a topic which is not relevant to the thread, to turn the attention to something irrelevant, “as they do”.

A reminder that, according to the Israeli anti-settlement group, Peace Now, Israel has built settlements housing some 700,000 Jews since it occupied the West Bank in the 1967 Middle East war. The settlements are considered illegal under international law.

A reminder that the Netanyahu's regime in Israel has warded off completely the Gaza Strip since the start of the military operations, same as the battleground in South Lebanon. Therefore all the actions and destructions by Israel IDF cannot be documented by foreign media. So you can have an idea of the authenticity of the chronicles, especially the narrative of American media.

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Trump's madman suggestion Gaza will belong to the US will never happen. The people of Gaza are already refugees from conflicts.

It would be ethnic cleansing, an international crime.

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Trump has offered nothing on what he will do for the Palestinians except push the problem onto other Arab nations.

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Smart heads in the know are saying that the real purpose of this unrealistic proposal is to push regional players - Saudi, Egypt & co into coming up with an alternative proposal for a long term solution / plan for Gaza. Either US steps in and takes control of the place ( which Arab players find totally unacceptable ) or regional players come up with an acceptable solution. Another devious negotiation tactic by Donald. Meanwhile Dem heads are spinning faster than a Dervish dancer.

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A reminder that, according to the Israeli anti-settlement group, Peace Now, Israel has built settlements housing some 700,000 Jews since it occupied the West Bank in the 1967 Middle East war. The settlements are considered illegal under international law.

The Palestinian Arabs do not make any distinction between the West Bank and Israel. For them, every Israeli village, town or city, including Tel Aviv, is a settlement. The Palestinian Arabs are not interested at all in having their own state, they are interested in one and only one thing - committing genocide to Israel.

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"Have you seen the wasteful spending DOGE has uncoverd so far?....Like what?"

Well this post listing some of USAID waste and corruption is a good example. And that is just one agency.

"— $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid “binary-gendered language”

— $20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq

— $4.5+ million to “combat disinformation” in Kazakhstan

— $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala

— $6 million to “transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles”

— $2.1 million to help the BBC “value the diversity of Libyan society”

— $10 million worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al Qaeda-linked terrorist group

— $2.5 million to promote “inclusion” in Vietnam

— $16.8 million for a SEPARATE “inclusion” group in Vietnam

— $20 million for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax

— $1.1 million to an Armenian “LGBT group”

— $1.5 million to “rebuild” the Cuban media ecosystem

— $2.3 million for “artisanal and small scale gold mining” in the Amazon

— $3.9 million for “LGBT causes” in the western Balkans

— $8.3 million for “USAID Education: Equity and Inclusion

President Trump stopping the waste, fraud, and abuse."

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I think it's "in principle" it's a good idea. Ship them all out.

There has never been, and there will never be, peace in Gaza / Israel.

The problem is incompatible religion. It's like trying to mix oil and water, and it will never happen. Fact.

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Well this post listing some of USAID waste and corruption is a good example. And that is just one agency.

"— $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid “binary-gendered language”

— $20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq

— $4.5+ million to “combat disinformation” in Kazakhstan

— $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala

— $6 million to “transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles”

— $2.1 million to help the BBC “value the diversity of Libyan society”

— $10 million worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al Qaeda-linked terrorist group

— $2.5 million to promote “inclusion” in Vietnam

— $16.8 million for a SEPARATE “inclusion” group in Vietnam

— $20 million for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax

— $1.1 million to an Armenian “LGBT group”

— $1.5 million to “rebuild” the Cuban media ecosystem

— $2.3 million for “artisanal and small scale gold mining” in the Amazon

— $3.9 million for “LGBT causes” in the western Balkans

— $8.3 million for “USAID Education: Equity and Inclusion

President Trump stopping the waste, fraud, and abuse."

You also forgot $260K gave to Jeffrey Epstein as well....

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Well this post listing some of USAID waste and corruption is a good example. And that is just one agency.

No sources, no verifications, no context, just a random list of number and scary words (ooooh, "LGBT"!).

The MAGA propaganda machine in action.

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It's a bit like a morbidly obese 600lb McDonalds addict showing someone what a diet looks like.

No. It’s like showing someone Gaza and Tel Aviv on Oct 6 and asking them where would you rather raise your kids?

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It's because of the Democrats Israel has had to defend itself so vigorously on Gaza. The October 7 terrorist attacks would never have happened if Trump had been president at that time.

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Nearly every building is ruble.

Freudian slip?

Hardly. This is a clear message that an attack on Israel has grave consequences. Not that Hammas cares about the fodder of dead Palestinians they build their terror network under.

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Burgerland

"Have you seen the wasteful spending DOGE has uncoverd so far?....Like what?"

Well this post listing some of USAID waste and corruption is a good example. And that is just one agency.

"— $7.9 million to teach Sri Lankan journalists how to avoid “binary-gendered language”

— $20 million for a new Sesame Street show in Iraq

— $4.5+ million to “combat disinformation” in Kazakhstan

— $2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala

— $6 million to “transform digital spaces to reflect feminist democratic principles”

— $2.1 million to help the BBC “value the diversity of Libyan society”

— $2.5 million to promote “inclusion” in Vietnam

— $16.8 million for a SEPARATE “inclusion” group in Vietnam

— $20 million for a group related to a key player in the Russiagate impeachment hoax

— $1.1 million to an Armenian “LGBT group”

— $1.5 million to “rebuild” the Cuban media ecosystem

— $2.3 million for “artisanal and small scale gold mining” in the Amazon

— $3.9 million for “LGBT causes” in the western Balkans

— $8.3 million for “USAID Education: Equity and Inclusion

Corrupt and wasteful? All these are good causes!

— $10 million worth of USAID-funded meals, which went to an al Qaeda-linked terrorist group

BTW the same group that kicked out of Syria.

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Burgerland

Smart heads in the know are saying that the real purpose of this unrealistic proposal is to push regional players - Saudi, Egypt & co into coming up with an alternative proposal for a long term solution / plan for Gaza.

Hilarious!

Is Donald playing 4D chess here? LOLZ

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*BTW the same group that kicked Assad out of Syria.

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As predicted, lots of effort to return the truth Trump accidentally made visible, that the only place the population of Gaza can legally (and morally, and ethically) can be moved is back home to what some mistakenly insist is Israel.

It's also the only place using force to prevent that population from going is a Crime Against Humanity.

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Corrupt and wasteful? All these are good causes!

Then why didn't the Dems tell and be transparent about it? It's not their money, we have a right to know and now that we do, nope.

BTW the same group that kicked Assad out of Syria.

But not the rest. Anyhow, that's all over and done with.

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"No sources, no verifications, no context, just a random list of number and scary words (ooooh, "LGBT"!).

The MAGA propaganda machine in action."

With such a gravy train at risk, it is natural those who would loose their pork are trying to deny everything and protect their lunch. Source - Elon/DOGE. Google it.

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BurgerlandToday  10:25 am JST

Smart heads in the know are saying that the real purpose of this unrealistic proposal is to push regional players - Saudi, Egypt & co into coming up with an alternative proposal for a long term solution / plan for Gaza.

Then the Trump fans taking it at face value as a bona fide great idea in and of itself can't be very smart.

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Moderator My post you remove was up for hours and for what reason was it allowed to be up for hours. Does take 3 hours for a post to morph into vulgar/offensive. I don,t think so. I have the gut to stand up to a nation that over the last 20. years slowly morph into a fascist regime. I want the supporters to stop their denial and stop pretending all is good with their nation. No, it is far from a democratic nation.

So Sieg Heil Trump, Sieg Heil MEGA supporters and Sieg Heil the USA.

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I want the supporters to stop their denial and stop pretending all is good with their nation. No, it is far from a democratic nation.

Democratic and it is on it's way to being great again

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