President Donald Trump berated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for being “disrespectful” Friday in an extraordinary Oval Office meeting, then abruptly called off the signing of a minerals deal that Trump said would have moved Ukraine closer to ending its war with Russia.
The astonishing turn of events could scramble affairs in Europe and around the globe. During his visit with Trump, Zelenskyy was expected to sign the deal allowing the U.S. greater access to Ukraine's rare earth minerals and hold a joint news conference, but that plan was scrapped after the heated engagement between the leaders in front of the news media.
It's unclear what the blow-up could mean for the deal that Trump insisted was essential to repay the U.S. for the more than $180 billion in American aid sent to Kyiv since the start of the war. And it remains to be seen what, if anything, Trump wants Zelenskyy to do to get the deal back on track.
The Ukrainian leader was asked to leave the White House by top Trump advisers shortly after Trump shouted at him, showing open disdain.
“You’re gambling with World War III, and what you’re doing is very disrespectful to the country, this country that’s backed you far more than a lot of people say they should have,” Trump told Zelenskyy.
The last 10 minutes of the nearly 45-minute meeting devolved into a tense back and forth between Trump, Vice President JD Vance and Zelenskyy, who had urged skepticism about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, citing Moscow’s years of broken commitments on the global stage.
Zelenskyy’s main objective going into the sit-down had been to press Trump not to abandon his country and to warn against moving too close to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Instead he got shouted at while Trump appeared to play up the drama for the cameras.
At one point, Zelenskyy said Putin had broken “his own signature” 25 times on ceasefires and other agreements and could not be trusted. Trump responded that Putin had not broken agreements with him and ducked questions about offering security guarantees to Ukraine, saying he thought the minerals deal — which is now on-hold — would effectively end the fighting.
Things first got testy after Vance challenged Zelenskyy, telling him, “Mr President, with respect, I think it’s disrespectful for you to come to the Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of the American media.” Zelensky tried to object, prompting Trump to raise his voice and say, “You’re gambling with the lives of millions of people.”
At another point, Trump declared himself “in the middle" and not on the side of either Ukraine or Russia in the conflict. He went on to deride Zelenskyy's “hatred” for Putin as a roadblock to peace.
“You see the hatred he’s got for Putin,” Trump said. “That’s very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate."
Trump later told reporters, shortly before departing for his Mar-a-Lago resort in South Florida for the weekend, that he wanted an “immediate ceasefire” between Russia and Ukraine but expressed doubt that Zelenskyy was ready to make peace.
Zelenskyy made an appearance on Fox News on Friday evening in which he said his public spat with Trump and Vance was “not good for both sides.” But Zelenskyy said Trump — who insists Putin is ready to end the three-year grinding war — needs to understand that Ukraine can’t change its attitudes toward Russia on a dime.
Zelenskyy added that Ukraine won’t enter peace talks with Russia until it has security guarantees against another offensive.
“It’s so sensitive for our people,” Zelenskyy said. “And they just want to hear that America (is) on our side, that America will stay with us. Not with Russia, with us. That’s it.”
Following the meeting, Trump posted on his social media site that he had “determined” that Zelenskyy “is not ready for Peace.”
“He disrespected the United States of America in its cherished Oval Office. He can come back when he is ready for Peace,” Trump wrote.
Democrats immediately criticized the administration for the breakdown. Democratic Senate leader Chuck Schumer said Trump and Vance “are doing Putin’s dirty work.”
The testy discussion was especially surprising since it came a day after Trump struck a more conciliatory tone toward Ukraine, calling America’s support against Russia’s invasion “a very worthy thing to do” and disclaiming any memory that he had called the Ukrainian leader a “dictator.”
Trump and Zelenskyy spoke politely, even with admiration, of each other for the first half hour of the meeting. But, when the Ukrainian leader raised alarm about trusting any promises from Putin to end the fighting, Vance offered his strong rebuke for airing disagreements with Trump in public.
That instantly shifted the tenor of the conversation as Zelenskyy grew defensive and Trump and his vice president blasted him as ungrateful and issued stark warnings about future American support.
“It’s going to be a very hard thing to do business like this,” Trump said to Zelenskyy as the two leaders talked over each other about past international support for Ukraine.
Vance then interjected, “Again, just say thank you.”
Zelenskyy pushed back on Vance, telling him he's offered his appreciation “a lot of times" to the American people and the president. The Ukrainian leader after leaving the White House expressed his gratitude on social media.
“Thank you America, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit,” Zelenskyy wrote. “Thank you @POTUS, Congress, and the American people. Ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that.”
But administration officials were not satisfied with Zelenskyy and perceived a “hostility” with him and his body language in the Oval Office, according to a White House official. Trump also objected to the Ukrainian leader bringing up the issue of security guarantees when Trump made clear he wanted to focus on the minerals deal, said the official, who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
Former President Joe Biden had also grown frustrated at moments with Zelenskyy for being insufficiently grateful of American support, according to former administration officials. But unlike Trump, Biden expressed his displeasure with Zelenskyy privately.
Trump also suggested that Zelenskyy should not be demanding concessions.
"You’re not in a good position. You don’t have the cards right now,” Trump said pointing his finger toward Zelenskyy.
Shortly before the meeting ended, Trump said, “This is going to be great television.”
As Ukrainian forces hold out against slow but steady advances by Russia’s larger and better-equipped army, leaders in Kyiv have sought to ensure any potential U.S.-brokered peace plan would include guarantees for the country’s future security.
Many Ukrainians fear that a hastily negotiated peace — especially one that makes too many concessions to Russian demands — would allow Moscow to rearm and consolidate its forces for a future invasion.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Trump ally who has advocated to keep up American support for Ukraine, said he wasn't confident that the Trump-Zelenskyy relationship could be repaired.
“I don’t know if you can ever do a deal with Zelenskyy anymore,” the South Carolina Republican said.
Fears that Trump could broker a peace deal with Russia that is unfavorable to Ukraine have been amplified by recent precedent-busting actions by his administration.
Trump held a lengthy phone call with Putin, and U.S. officials met with their Russian counterparts in Saudi Arabia without inviting European or Ukrainian leaders — both dramatic breaks with previous U.S. policy to isolate Putin over his invasion.
European leaders were quick to reinforce their support for Ukraine after the contentious Oval Office meeting.
In a post on X, EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Zelenskyy's “dignity honors the bravery of the Ukrainian people."
“Be strong, be brave, be fearless,” she added. "You are never alone, dear President.”
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni proposed “an immediate summit” between the United States and European allies “to speak frankly about how we intend to face today’s great challenges, starting with Ukraine.”
“Every division of the West makes us all weaker and favors those who would like to see the decline of our civilization,” she said. “A division would not benefit anyone.”
Associated Press writers Justin Spike in Kyiv, Stephanie Dazio in Berlin, Giada Zampano in Rome, JJ Cooper in Phoenix, and Michelle L. Price in New York contributed to this report.
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184 Comments
TaiwanIsNotChina
It is good that deeply unserious people like the US administration are outed as such and the rest of the world can move on without them.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Reports are that russian State TV TASS was invited to the oval office meeting whereas Reuters and the AP were not. A clear sign of things to come.
Nifty
There is nothing more to be said,,,,about US involvement in Ukraine, Nato, or anything else. Trump doesn't understand friend, allies, or anything positive. When everyone cuts him (and the US) off, he will go back to whining about everyone treating him badly, and will have to do something even more obnoxious to be the center of attention again.
JJE
War of Words Part II
Wasn't sure if JD was going to deliver it. DJT sure did.
Told you he burned through anyone - and outlived his welcome.
He got chucked out of the White House for good reason. JD was furious. NSA Waltz more so.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Even if Zelenskyy had been somehow able to eke out some additional weapons from Trump, it would always have been a problem having to deal with an unstable mental patient in the WH.
Justin Case
It looks like the White House is very much in Putin's corner with this bout.
JJE
Now he has to rely on the EU crowd. Pretty clear to all and sundry there are no 'security guarantees' in any shape or form.
ThePunisher
The US showing itself why it is the most hated nation on earth. Pariah state. Trump and Vance are despicable, amoral individuals not worthy of a shred of respect.
Good on Zelenskyy, standing up for Ukraine as he has done for years. Why should Ukraine allow itself to have its resources raided by a filthy regime that collaborates with Russia, and calls an elected President a dictator?
The sooner the world divests in the putrid Trump-led USA the better.
JJE
Pure pantomime:
Classic public stuff.
Behind closed doors where it happens - admin wants to settle this conflict and all the top-dogs know Putin's conditions. They said they want to settle... meaning 1) no NATO - or security guarantees, which is what that means 2) territorial changes 3) re-adjustment posture of said alliance forces in post 99 areas.
They know that. And it's the only way to stop this - and more importantly what provoked this.
deanzaZZR
What a disaster for Zelensky. Was he not coached on what he should and what he should not have said?
Underworld
deanzaZZR
This wasn't Zelenskyy's fault. This was a shameful attack by the president and vice-president on Zelenskyy and Ukraine and a big win for Putin.
Underworld
TaiwanIsNotChina
Yup. This utterly shameful attack on Zelenskyy for a Russian audience.
I'veSeenFootage
Can you imagine shouting at the president of a country that was unlawfully and unjustifiably invaded by Russia, its cities bombed, its population murdered, raped, kidnapped, and blaiming HIM for everything that happened? What kind of psychopath do you have to be? Ah yes: the "Putin's lapdog" kind.
Absolutely appalling, pathetic and nauseating. Anybody who defends this is simply working for the FSB and their opinion should be dismissed forever.
Underworld
JJE
Yeah. From what Trump was saying, he has no idea on why Ukraine needs security guarantees, and he's not willing to provide.
I guess to expect Trump to understand foreign policy was folly. He's too far out of his depth.
And JD Vance was even more shameful that Trump. He has always sided with the pro-war Putin crowd.
deanzaZZR
Regardless of who you think was slinging facts this is not the outcome that Zelensky was hoping for. President Z is now sidelined as far as Trump is concerned.
JJE
Assuming people have watched the video:
Trump was more polite to NY state judges when he was on trial. The real kicker was when JD said something along the lines of "we shouldn't be litigating this in front of the American press" after asking him to say "thank you", and his boss took over saying "I want the American public to see this" and proceeded to castigate him.
tooheysnew
Trump wanted to be remembered as the man who brought peace, but will now be remembered as the president who sold out his allies & befriended Russia.
Trumps little puppy VD Vance won’t be remembered at all.
Simon Foston
Sounds like that's all he really wanted - something for the MAGA yahoos to whoop and cheer at, and like loyal bootlickers I bet they all will.
TaiwanIsNotChina
So Trump can get on with, what exactly? Planning for the Victory Day parade?
Toblerone
Zelensky and his sense of entitlement. Already the US has given him Billions$$ - all along he has demanded more and more $$$.
Note to Zelensky: Trump is not Sleepy Joe.
Also, Zelensky: Have a little gratitude and humility.
Primusinter
TaiwanIsNotChina
And what does that tell you about the seriousness of these people?
Underworld
JJE
Yeah, what a shameful performance by Vance. Making it about himself.
Yeah, this shameful attack was likely prepared in advance to give them an excuse for failing to get the deal signed.
Zelenskyy was insisting on security assurances and Trump kept saying, let's get the deal signed first. Add do the security guarantees later.
It doesn't work like that.
Then a press person asked what would happen if Putin didn't keep the deal.
Trump burst out saying: "I don't know, what if a bomb fell on your head right now?".
Simon Foston
JJEToday 06:24 am JST
Could hardly be worse than trying to rely on a US administration that's in the pocket of his enemies.
PolarStar
Absolute admiration and support for Zelenskyy. The guy has balls. He went into the Oval Office and stood up to Russia’s best negotiators
Underworld
deanzaZZR
Truly shameful. Trump will be known as the traitor president.
Haaa Nemui
means nothing. They have enough to do both… and they still won’t.
Underworld
Toblerone
Do you think that Trump and JD Vance care anything about lifting every poor and disadvantaged American adult and child out of poverty?
Think about that.
buchailldana
The disgrace of the US government is now international.
Fair play to Zelensky.
He told the truth and Trump can't handle the truth.
And I have to say Vance the vp is a complete yesman.
The deal the deal.
Money before morals.
Trump has zero integrity.
Might get away with it in the US but on the world stage he is seen as he is.
A financially obsessed idiot
with a backbone of wet cardboard.
stormcrow
“A great man is hard on himself; a small man is hard on others.” . . . Confucius
The only real winner was Putin, Trump’s partner in crime.
ThePunisher
Little VD Vance was clearly spoiling for a fight, desperate to be noticed for once. Pathetic, disgusting individual.
JJE
Still missing the bigger point - DJT and Zelensky were never going to coexist as the latter thought he could behave as he did under the previous administration.
Behind closed doors the solution is being made with two meetings between top-dogs from the US and Russia to straighten things out.
EU elite and Zelensky are a hindrance to peace. Most countries - US, Russia, China, India, Brazil-Latin area, Africa and a majority of Ukrainians want this to stop. That is the truth.
tooheysnew
what did Zelenskyy have to thank trump for exactly ?
Calling him a dictator ? Accepting all of Putin’s demands, while getting nothing in return ? Doing gangster style standover tactics to steal Ukrainian precious minerals ?
The world has seen that the US under trump cannot be trusted
Tamarama
I've just watched the footage of the interview, and it's astonishing. Completely astonishing.
Zelensky must have felt sick to his stomach.
I think he showed remarkable composure as he was attacked by two disrespectful, callous, self-righteous bullies who tried to shout him down. JD Vance pointing his finger at him and calling him disrespectful and unthankful was the most appalling thing I've seen at this level.
Talk about a moron's lecture. The US has lost it.
JeffLee
Vance: You've got lots of problems
Zelenskyy. Yes we have. (We've been invaded by a much bigger enemy.) Have you been to Ukraine to see our problems?
Vance: No, but I've seen stories.
Yeah, right.
Maybe it is today. It wasn't before, especially from 2009 to 2016.
I'veSeenFootage
This is the mental universe Donald Trump wallows in. Thinking about world diplomacy and war treaties in terms of... TV ratings. These are his only values. And, for supreme irony, right after accusing Zelensky of "gambling with the lives of millions of people", of course. To quote Rex Tillerson: "What a f*****g moron".
Blacklabel
Disrespectful Zelensky.
when you have even Ukraine loving Lindsey Graham saying you messed and need to resign. you messed up. Bad.
gcbel
A nauseating performance by a disgusting, contemptible pair of con men. Trump and Vance have brought deep shame that we will not soon live down.
theFu
Trump is still petty. The only cure for that will come when he's called home by his dog.
Zelenskyy knows Russia better than anyone in the US does. Ukraine was part of the Russian lead USSR, intelligence, and world-wide disinformation campaigns for decades.
Trump is being played by Putin and he's too dumb to recognize it. Time to send in some B-1s and B-2s to help the Russians inside Ukraine understand the world a little clearer.
I wish it wasn't true, but it is.
TaiwanIsNotChina
Harris should come out with I Told You So Part 1 speech. Future speeches to be announced later.
TokyoLiving
Very well Zelenskyy, he had the dignity to face the arrogant clowns of the MAGA gang. Trump is not for Ukraine peace, Trump just wants to be a scavenger and take over what little is left of Ukraine..
Keep going Zelenskyy, has dignity against MAGA gang..
You can achieve peace with Russia, without the intervention of MAGA gang..
TokyoLiving
MAGA gang henhouse on fire..
Pathetic bunch of narcissistic clowns..
LOOOOOL
bass4funk
Look, I would have preferred they would have taken this behind closed doors, but Trump was right, he just doesn’t have a lot of choices in this, if Zelenskyy doesn’t like the deal, Trump can walk away, this guy wants to piss off the man that is trying to help him although it is not our responsibility to involve ourselves in this conflict at all. The Europeans are on the sidelines? And it’s our responsibility? Well, Zelenskyy just shot himself in the foot again, you never attack the person that is trying to help you. Little reality check. Obama took away offense weapons from Poland and other eastern bloc nations. Clinton convinced Ukraine to give up their Nuclear Weapons. Obama was President when Russian invaded Crimea. Did nothing. Biden was President when Russia invaded Western Ukraine. Did nothing. This is not a GOP disaster, sorry.
Jay
First time in my years following international politics I've seen two world leaders argue in front of cameras instead in a closed room.
This was historic - the most realistic conversation we've seen done by politicians. A fly on the wall did not have a better seat.
JJE
Another inconvenient Truth: the mineral deal was a sham. Always was. Apart from the fact he doesn't control most of the minerals (mainly in the south east) and the complete uneconomic nature of it - plus using Soviet and even German era maps to 'prove' resources with colors shaded on a map. It was all a charade. DJT called the bluff. And he couldn't raise. Reports indicate while being escorted into his vehicle while being ejected from the premises, he was on the phone to Macron, who actually arranged this disastrous meeting.
bass4funk
Because Trump won’t allow Zelenskyy to further take advantage of the U.S.?
Underworld
JJE
Nah, Zelensky knows Trump is a man-child and needs to be treated as such.
At the same time, he was never going to sign a deal without security guarantees.
Russia isn't a top dog, no matter what Trump thinks. There will be no deal without Zelenskyy.
That makes no sense.
You can't get peace without Zelenskyy.
itsonlyrocknroll
Full Video: Trump and Zelensky Get Into Shouting Match During Meeting | WSJ News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMNAos1hotI
With the benefit of hindsight JD Vance could have bitten his lip.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy clearly is not going to be bounced into a deal of any sort.
All three should have been acutely conscious aware of the surroundings, Oval Office, in front, full view of a global media pack.
They should all be ashamed of such behaviour.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 07:19 am JST
Help him with what, exactly? Agreeing to everything that Putin wants?
Underworld
bass4funk
Actually they did have the responsibility. They just chose to be a traitor instead.
Blacklabel
You don’t act like that when someone is trying to help you. If you don’t think we are trying to help you, don’t come visit our home.
the sense of entitlement from Zelensky is just completely unacceptable to the American people.
it’s like I said before, Zelensky seems like he thinks this is just a movie and that he is the main character and hero of it. Spoiler alert: nope.
Blacklabel
And yeah put on a suit.
Underworld
Primusinter
Unlikely. Russia have run out of momentum.
Putin wanted a ceasefire without security guarantees, so that he could regroup.
Zelenskyy was never going to sign a peace deal without one.
patkim
Well, Zelensky is not a 'Yes' man. He is not like the rest of Trump's cabinet and sheep. I respect him because he will refuse to kiss the ring of king Trump. He will live by his principles of honor and dignity than be a slave to Trump. We don't need any more kings; especially those who are clearly mad and senile. While Trump can be easily played by Putin, Zelensky will not. He knows too well, like the rest of the world does, that Putin cannot be trusted. He is selfish, evil, and corrupt.
voiceofokinawa
Trump gave an impression to the world that the U.S. is helping Ukraine in this war for the rare earth that Ukraine has in abundance.
I'veSeenFootage
This really sounds profoundly idiotic when Trump actually finished the whole debacle with “This is going to be great television.”
itsonlyrocknroll
President Putin will be the only beneficiary after that display.
From what i have been reading Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy caught one of Trump media tweet on his arrival at the White House, down came the red mist.
Underworld
Blacklabel
Trump and especially Vance weren't there to help Zelenskyy, quite the opposite.
Utterly shameful traitorous display by the US "leadership".
There was no sense of entitlement shown at all, but Vance tried to make it look like that.
Vance could barely hide his contempt.
What can you expect from two rookie politicians who just don't understand foreign policy.
Umm, no. He has been to the trenches, he knows how real it is.
Toblerone
And yeah put on a suit.
Zelensky won’t even show respect by doing that. Entitled, demanding, obnoxious.
Underworld
Blacklabel
Yeah, what a ridiculous and unserious question.
But I did like Zelenskyy's response.
Blacklabel
Z is a minor character at best. the one that always gets in trouble due to lack of self control and always saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.
he tried performing for the camera instead of having the meeting.
bass4funk
And your solution is what? Maybe you should ask your government has done to help make peace or supply them with weapons? That’s what you should be asking.
Bob Fosse
47 and jd deliberately sabotaging this to avoid responsibility for their own inevitable failures. Clear as day.
Tamarama
Zelensky held himself with dignity in this situation, but tried to politely call out VD Vance's nonsense, which Trump jumped doubled down on.
To the rational world looking in, Zelensky comes out of this looking statesmanly. dignified but prepared to fight for his country.
The other two look like petulant and petty shouty school yard bullies near the bike rack.
What a look that is for the US.
kurisupisu
What is the reality?
The reality is that Ukraine is in a corner.
The population has been decimated and only the elderly, women and children are left.
There are plenty of male Ukrainians abroad too.
The only way forward is to capitulate-reality.
Negotiating with Donald Trump requires strength and guile;Zelensky just doesn’t have any nor did his manner endear him.
Contrast the meeting with Starmer recently and it shows how I’ll prepared Zenlensky was in comparison.
bass4funk
Words and name calling won’t change Zelenskyy’s outcome, you don’t bite the hand that helps you and if you want to run your mouth, Trump can just walk away. We are not going to fight this anymore, not our fight, all the name calling won’t change that. No one likes any of this or many of the options, but without the U.S., this deal is over, so…
HopeSpringsEternal
DJT's not going to allow anyone, especially Zelenskyy to have their 'button' on the trigger, with the ability to escalate the war to directly include US and NATO.
'Security guarantees' demanded by Zelenskyy do just that, allow potential for direct conflict with Russia based on unpredictable and thus highly risky Ukrainian leadership behavior = redline for DJT.
Tensions are hot, as Zelenskyy's feeling heat as Ukraine crumbles and doubts over his political status grow daily.
Bob Fosse
How many times has Graham publicly criticized 47, then flip flopped?
He’s your barometer?!
bass4funk
Not there’s 44 and 46
Underworld
bass4funk
Help him with what, exactly? Agreeing to everything that Putin wants?
Yeah, because the traitors in the White House are too busy bowing to Putin.
gcbel
The claim that Trump was ‘trying to help’ Zelenskyy and Ukraine is patently ridiculous. Zelenskyy had no choice but to come, probably knowing full well what he was in for. That’s courage.
That nonsense ‘24-hour war-ending’ promise was always going to mean forcing Ukraine to surrender—because it’s easier for Trump to leverage the weak than stand up to Putin. What a con, what a disgrace.
Blacklabel
After that failed “performance” for the cameras, I don’t see how Zelensky ever gets invited back. I thought he was supposed to be a good and experienced actor?
bass4funk
Ok, and?
HopeSpringsEternal
Having tens of thousands of Americans in Ukraine, helping with re-development for decades, along with many more peacekeepers = red-line Putin won't cross
stormcrow
How would Americans feel if a foreign country invaded its country and was trying to steal over 20% of its territory?
Americans wouldn't be very happy about it, would they?
It's the same thing here. Ukrainians have been invaded, murdered and raped by these criminals. Russia has also kidnapped tens of thousands of Ukrainian children and thrown them to the wind across Russia.
Why on earth is Trump on the wrong side of this fight and supporting a war criminal like Putin?!
Underworld
Blacklabel
He said the right things, but the President and especially the VP didn't want to hear them.
Zelenskyy is the hero of this war. Trump tried to be a bit player by getting a "peace deal", but he lacks the skill to actually achieve something like that.
JD Vance is actively hostile to Zelenskyy and Ukraine. He can be the villain.
PolarStar
Zelenskyy is fighting for the survival of his country, his people and their democracy.
Trump and Vance appear to be completely aligned with Putin, the invader whose aim has been to conquer Ukraine.
Blacklabel
EU “top diplomat”:
“Ukraine is Europe! We stand by Ukraine. We will step up our support to Ukraine so that they can continue to fight back the [aggressor],” she wrote in a post on the social platform X.
“Today, it became clear that the free world needs a new leader. It’s up to us, Europeans, to take this challenge,” she continued.”
Your terms are acceptable! Z and this war and his debts and his incessant demands are all yours! Enjoy!
patkim
Trump and Vance are only in this for themselves. It's why Trump always has to praise himself and make claims like what he did was the best thing in the history. All the emphasis is always on him and him only.
Zelensky on the other hand, is thinking about his people. He doesn't want his people to get taken advantage of by greedy politicians like Putin and Trump. You don't blindingly take any obviously one-sided deal offered. It is why his people fight for him and their country so valiantly.
bass4funk
That’s will never happen, so it’s kind of hard to imagine, more hypotheticals?
Underworld
HopeSpringsEternal
Of course it's a red line for Putin. He wants to continue the war later, once he has regrouped. That's where Trump says to Putin, this is a compromise you have to take to get a peace deal.
That's the "Art of the Deal".
If Trump was strong, he would have agreed to have US peacekeepers in Ukraine.
Haaa Nemui
It isn’t a good situation for Ukraine, but if that’s the case, they don’t need the US for that. So what are Trump and team offering if the end result is the same?
quercetum
But Putin started it!
That’s the only card some of you bring to the negotiation table.
Trump is so right.
HopeSpringsEternal
Problem is these areas being taken over, have pursued independence from Ukraine since 2014, as they are majority Russian speaking. Very few in these regions wish to be Ukrainian, that's not your standard invasion.
Why Putin terms it a 'special operation' for humanitarian reasons along legal 'partition' lines of former Yugoslavia.
No questions tensions high after fighting for over a decade, thus Peace rather a strange concept. It's a tough negotiation, but Zelenskyy will be back to the WH soon.
Blacklabel
I can’t imagine how the Ukraine people feel, seeing their guy bungle this best chance to end the war so bad.
they the ones fighting and dying, not the guy wearing fatigues every where he goes with his hand out for money.
election time?
bass4funk
As a taxpayer, me as well.
He is the President, I voted for him and he’s doing exactly what I wanted him to do, yes.
As Trump does as well, this is why I’m happy
Well, exactly, now you get my position, my first priority is towards my people and nation, not Ukraine’s
When you have nothing, you take what you get, or just take care of yourself with that you have, simple.
Underworld
Blacklabel
I don't think they consider Donald Trump, "their guy", but he sure did bungle his "peace deal".
The last thing they need is for the US become a traitor to Ukraine.
This shameful display in the White House will only raise the popularity of Zelenskyy.
But they won't fall into Putin's "elections trap".
tooheysnew
Trump has been throwing around ridiculous figures of $300 billion, $350 billion & has been corrected by both France & the UK. He did it again today. When will the American people realise trump is a liar & a scammer ?
While he is firing 1000’s of people, & food prices & inflation are going up, he’s scamming his stupid supporters by selling gold US currency (with his picture on them, of course), & promising them positions in his cabinet, & visits to Mara Lago (if they donate money, of course)
Primusinter
Yes, he is a very talented actor. Not genius, but very talented. He makes a big mistake by not using the translator service. His English level is not sufficient to express his thoughts accurately. If it were in his native language, Russian, then the conversation might look completely different.
KnightsOfCydonia
How the mighty has fallen….
Rest in peace the USA….
To the freedom loving people that believe in fairness and equality, now is the time to fight. Snakes like Vance show the time for talking is over.
kurisupisu
All of you not accepting the situation’s reality like Zelensky, should be prepared to stop tapping away at your keyboards and get out there and do the noble thing…
Underworld
HopeSpringsEternal
Most of them didn't want Russia to come in and flatten their cities and conscript all their men either.
As Zelenskyy pointed out, they had a peace deal in the Donbas, but Putin ripped it up.
Yeah, because he is lying of course. A "humanitarian" invasion killing tens of thousands and flattening cities isn't why Putin started this war of aggression. He wants political control of Ukraine.
Not sure he should bother. Only traitors to be found in the White House these days.
ok1517
To make it very short and easy to understand:
2 maniacs, insulters, good at humiliating others against a decent man, President Zelenskyy.
Soon another live interview on FOX with President Zelenskyy.
Vance: "You should be thanking the president."
Trump: "Zelensky must stop criticizing Putin and declare his desire to make peace"
Can it get any worse?
https://www.foxnews.com/video/5614615980001
Underworld
bass4funk
You don't blindingly take any obviously one-sided deal offered. It is why his people fight for him and their country so valiantly.
A ceasefire without security guarantees is worse than no deal at all.
HopeSpringsEternal
Problem for Ukraine is they have no leverage, EU has re-aligned politically, along with US, voters not interested in the path to escalation and WWIII or continued currency real asset purchasing power destruction fueling inflation.
Plus, UA losing badly on battlefield, so there is no path.
Finally, Zelenskyy badly politically damaged. Nothing that can be done now, Ukraine needs Peace to survive.
DJT's a pragmatist and without Peace, global instability will continue, more things will 'break'. DJT does not Ukraine to continue to feed this breakdown in global order.
plasticmonkey
Elon Musk
Primusinter
Whatever happens in the White House, Europe's hysterical reaction is a more important consequence of these events.
War has been declared on Trump, but Europe is not ready for the war.
JJE
Coming on the back of Macron and Starmer, a massive rebuke to globalist warmongers. Hint - WH knows any 'force' entering a certain region will be targeted and killed by Moscow command: period, end of story.
Backstops are a frontstop to WWIII. Anyone who hasn't been drinking the lemonade narrative knows that.
Truth: Moscows demands will be met, details being ironed out. (PS they hold all the cards - notice that word in the above train-crash-meeting - called realism)
patkim
So if Trump is actually looking out for his people, please tell me how wasting taxpayers' money on visiting the Superbowl, going to Daytona, renaming a body of ocean, and playing way more golf than any president in the past has to do with looking out for Americans' best interests? For some strange reason, MAGA think that doing those wasteful things will help lower food prices.
Nibek32
Not surprising considering Trump takes his orders from Putin.
patkim
During Trump's first term, Mike Pompeio mentioned that they had to break off several deals with Putin because Putin would always go back on his word and just couldn't be trusted. What has changed since then? Now suddenly Trump accepts everything Putin says? Something is really fishy. Putin has to have something over Trump. He must have turned Trump into a Russian asset.
Yrral
Even though,i.am.not fan of Zelensky,he got the best of Putin Russian agent Trump,how in the hell is Putin a victim of a Russian hoax claimed by Trump,when Trump is a Russian agent
HopeSpringsEternal
It turns out the Peace process is almost as messy as the War. Hard for many in leadership to 'change' hats, as war time leaders often LIKE war if one believes in history.
Clearly Zelenskyy may fall into this category, determined not to 'fail' etc., while Ukraine itself is destroyed.
DJT was elected in part because he picked up major support from US based Catholics vs. 2020, who want Peace in majority Catholic Ukraine, winning Catholics by about 10pts after losing them by similar margin in 2020.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 07:40 am JST
You love to declare no one dictates to you what to say. I'm not interested in what anyone says I should ask.
Peter Neil
if russia attacked the u.s., the trump kids would be ok with cutting a deal giving putin say, everything from texas to north carolina?
if people invade your home, you going to give them your living room and kitchen?
chickenhawks.
russia praised trump and china is watching to see how spineless trump is when they take taiwan 2 years from now.
it’s not a business deal.
KnightsOfCydonia
“Zelensky is a wartime leader watching his people suffer and die under Russian attacks every day. To be lectured and lied to by Trump and Vance, as they defend the war criminal dictator committing these atrocities, is unimaginable agony. An everlasting shame for America,” said Mr Kasparov.
patkim
This whole fiasco is all on Trump and Vance. Two bullies ganging up on one. Yet, the bullies always shrink in the presence of a bigger bully like Putin. Good on Zelensky to stand up to these bullies. I always teach my children to stand up to bullies and not capitulate to them because they will always try to do it again.
wallace
Put simply, Putin is the winner in this knowing Trump has his back and won't have to give up any Ukrainian gains.
plasticmonkey
It's a win for Trump, Putin, and their oligarch friends who want to carve up the world for themselves.
KnightsOfCydonia
An everlasting shame for America!
Peter Neil
the ultimate in disrespect is trump thinking ukraine has no say in this. his egomaniacal rambling was a sure sign of dementia.
did anyone listen to what he said, or doesn’t it matter anymore?
iknowall
Trump spoke more coherently yesterday in that type of setting than Biden did in his entire four years combined.
Good in Trump though, for staying strong. Trump is offering Ukraine a safe path to peace, saving hundreds and thousands and even millions of people.
Ukraine is better off in the short and long run if it follows the Trump plan.
Bob Fosse
It was an ambush. And he thinks he’s getting a Nobel. Just horrible.
Bob Fosse
unless something is concrete and a 100% is factual, I’m just not going to dabble in hypotheticals.
patkim
Trump saying that Zelensky has tremendous hatred for Putin is really confusing. Of course, you would hate someone who invades your country, kills tens of thousands of your people, and destroy schools and hospitals. Heck, Ukraine is not my country, but I have a real hatred for Putin. And for Trump and Vance to stick up for a dictator like that makes them POS.
plasticmonkey
Why was JD there?
Because Trump is too dumb and cowardly to take on Zelenskyy one on one. JD is a smooth talker (though a disingenuous one) and appears more stable than Trump.
Trump needs to be surrounded by sycophants to feel like a tough guy.
The whole spectacle was deliberate.
Yrral
Trump is systemically destroying the US ,from.within ,by being ignorant
bass4funk
Nor should he given the sacrifices and money we gave to Ukraine
Some dude
The silver lining is that for everyone but the MAGAts, it's now so clear that the current administration is on Team Putin that a blind man could see it.
Time for the rest of the world to put the US to one side.
No longer a country worth dealing with in any way.
bass4funk
Because he’s the VP and should be.
wallace
bass4funk
Put simply, Putin is the winner in this knowing Trump has his back and won't have to give up any Ukrainian gains
Congress promised $175 billion but so far delivered only $89 billion in military and humanitarian aid.
bass4funk
I think it’s good. Look, I don’t like Zelenskyy at all and I don’t wish him or his country anymore suffering, but we did enough, he should apologize to Trump for taking that deliberate and outrageous attitude and if not, just walk away, let Europe deal with this, that might be better.
funkymofo
It was an ambush, a set up to pave the way for trump to completely capitulate and abandon a European ally for the Russian dictator. Putin’s poodle does his bidding again.
NOMINATION
Finally you admit that all other countries should depend in themselves. I remember back in the days when people in your party said they were sick of the U.S. being the World's police. What happened with that?
Amber
Ah, yes, America the pitiful —definitely still the shining beacon of the 'Western world,' right? Or maybe it’s just in a completely different timezone now.
NOMINATION
*on themselves
iknowall
Put simply, this is the same conspiracy drivel that the Democrats were in hysterics about, which in the end, is part of the reason for the red wave.
This deal is good for Ukraine and the US. Just sign it.
grund
"The countries outside looked from Russia to the United States, and from the United States to Russia, but already it was impossible to say which was which."
Bob Fosse
You have no other choice. You’re in too deep and can now never admit to being wrong no matter how low 47 goes.
Haaa Nemui
Yep. Funny. Actually…. A few days ago Zelenskyy was saying he’d resign if that’s what it took to get peace. Love to see him do that and get the prize. The tantrums would actually make some great TV
patkim
Trump and Vance have absolutely no integrity or class. That was clearly shown to the world, if it hasn't already been known. Those two were absolutely classless and showed utter weakness. No former president would bully an ally like Ukraine and support a dictator like Putin.
kwatt
It seems Trump will get nothing from Ukraine if Russia takes over whole Ukraine.
bass4funk
And I hope and pray they renege on that promise.
Yeah, but I don’t think he’s wrong.
Blacklabel
And then had the nerve to say he won’t resign because only Ukrainians can elect their president.
so when is the election?
patkim
We all know that Trump isn't making this deal with Russia for peace. He is making it as a business deal. He is only making it to get money from it. That's it. He doesn't care about peace at all. Once a grifter, always a grifter.
wallace
bass4funk
Congress promised $175 billion but so far delivered only $89 billion in military and humanitarian aid.
Then Ukraine won't agree to a mineral deal. But the $175 was already voted through Congress and is processing through the administrative stages.
Jimizo
Criticizing Zelensky’s choice of dress was a bit strange after Musk was dressed like a scruffy geek next to Trump.
You don’t get the sense Trump wanted this to succeed.
No surprise there.
Haaa Nemui
Even his strongest opposition in Ukraine have said it isn’t right to hold an election before this is over. Anybody from outside Ukraine making those demands will have to wait.
Hercolobus
Do Not be fooled. This could be a scripted narrative, rearranged and rehearsed prior to the meeting, for a possible U.S. occupation of Ukraine, so U.S. could encroach Russia further.
bass4funk
Then good luck to Ukraine
And then that’s it, so spend it wisely.
kokajp
Time to kick the US military out of Europe. And, yes, Europe will survive. The US can no longer be trusted, won't help if needed and are costing European taxpayer money. Just go home.
Blacklabel
Then refused to apologize to President Trump and JD when given multiple chances to do so. Keep digging that hole. Z.
I'veSeenFootage
There's nothing to apologize for, and no reason whatsoever to apologize to Putin's lackeys.
Mr Kipling
So Ukraine should have full control of all their lost territory and Crimea by the end of summer?
Seriously, that was shocking even to an ardent Russia supporter like myself. I felt sorry for Mr. Z. It really could not have gone worse.
funkymofo
When did Churchill hold the British election during WW2?
Tamarama
Ukraine maybe needs to re-think the minerals deal here as well now. Trump seems fixated on that, and having been humiliated in the Oval Office, Ukraine should tread cautiously and take their time with how they might proceed. Might be worth sourcing European partners, or perhaps the Chinese might be a better and more stable option than the US.
It also might be a good strategic decision in relation to Russia.
plasticmonkey
What outrageous attitude? Not accepting Trump’s ridiculous offer?
Refused to apologize for what? Not accepting Trump’s ridiculous offer?
Think about this. Trump would never shout at Putin. He only picks on the little guy. How “manly”.
Anyway, this TV stunt was all a setup.
Nibek32
Trump is not the type of guy that likes to take orders. So, the fact that he takes orders from Putin really makes you wonder: what does Putin have on trump?
It must be quite bad, because it’s making trump look small on the world stage, and we know that he does not love that.
Likely some embarrassing videos…
TaiwanIsNotChina
Zelenskyy should hold firm on the minerals deal: no minerals until we see some more adulting from Trump and co.
Underworld
Blacklabel
The apology clearly should be from Trump and Vance to Zelenskyy.
I'm not holding my breath with those clowns.
wallace
Trump has claimed many times that the US has given $350 billion, but Congress agreed to $175 billion. To date, the US has only delivered $89 billion.
Trump enjoys public praise but will react badly to any negative criticism.
bass4funk
Yeah, following Trump for 30 years, knowing his personality, that’s just not going to happen
Underworld
TaiwanIsNotChina
It looks like that's what he was trying to do, because Trump was still making weak excuses why he can't provide security guarantees.
Blacklabel
Interestingly, when it was expected that the minerals deal was a huge win for Trump?
Then a total shift- the media started reporting they don’t have as much as claimed, control little of it, will take a long time to get it, it’s not really anything to celebrate, no big deal.
now that there is no deal, will that swap back to how this was such a great opportunity for the US?
Underworld
Blacklabel
Yeah, because Lindsay Graham has never abandoned his morals by sucking up to Trump...
LOLZ
HopeSpringsEternal
Emotions hot on all sides, and so today was a normal step towards Peace, call it a 'venting' of frustration.
Nobody likes having their country destroyed and having to rely on outsiders to help them, Zelenskyy is no different, any leader in his shoes would have such emotions, given the past 10+ years of war with Russia.
itsonlyrocknroll
What has been accomplished here, it's a pertinent question?
Give me some rope here.
It is the question of the moment, to explain your recent accomplishments?
So I ask President Trump, Vice President JD Vance, what did that shameful display accomplish?
Peace ceasefire for the people of Ukraine, the much vaulted minerals bonanza?
I assume you both will be receiving an email.
HopeSpringsEternal
Zelenskyy needs to understand DJT's role is ensuring GLOBAL stability, and he can't allow US military assets to be controlled by anyone, either directly or indirectly.
Think of like a very upset patient, demanding the Doctor do this and that, while the Doctor has to remain objective and professional. Miracles not usually possible.
I'veSeenFootage
This is already going down in history as the absolute worst presidency in the history of the United States. James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson have been outdone, and in barely two months.
HopeSpringsEternal
Did people watch this WH meeting? Widely available.
My sense, just Trump's negotiation style, viral nature of youtube, think McDonalds in PA just prior to Nov 5th election.
Meanwhile DOGE is generating a thick Ukraine file, Musk is now saying on Joe Rogan, Fri in the US, over $100B of US Ukraine support is 'missing'.
Zelenskyy is running out of options, as Trump's never handed out money to anyone without serious conditions.
OkinawaRider
WSJ reports " Zelensky says mineral deal still on ".
Once again POTUS gets his way. Deal will be made, Zelensky knows what he needs to do.
elephant200
Trump is an undercover agent working for Russia, that is for sure !
Blacklabel
Treasury Secretary says this is the 3rd time and 3rd country in which Zelensky had agreed to sign but then pulled some similar stunt.
did you see lil Marco? He was pissed!
and the Ukraine ambassador? Head in her hands, covering her face in embarrassment.
i think we will find Z met with some Democrats before the meeting and got very poor advice.
Jay
How many ACTUALLY watched the entire press conference? There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. Watch the whole video and it will give you the proper context.
In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we’ll see". Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.
For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would’ve signed a deal. The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does.
Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn’t get us anywhere. The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions.
He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. THEN came the fight we all saw. Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.
A lot of people have been fans of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don’t see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.
XCAndtheband
It’s way past time we start calling Trump, his supporters, and any who kiss his ring, what they really are: anti-American. They don’t represent American values, and they are actively destroying the country.
America is supposed to be the beacon of democracy and we are supposed to protect oppressed people. We are supposed to stand up to dictators and defend our allies. That’s what our heroes died for in World War II. Instead Trump tries to extort Zelensky and praises the dictator Putin, who is the aggressor. What kind of world are we living in where MAGA, who claim to love America and democracy, cheer this kind of thing on?
Final point: why don’t MAGA understand that you can’t hide from the world? You can never insulate yourself from the rest of the planet. No one is self-sustaining, and no one is immune from effects around the world. Maybe you think letting Putin have Ukraine will solve your problem now, but what happens when he attacks you next? You’ll be wishing you did something earlier. And that’s the point of supporting Ukraine. Throw in support now, so the monster doesn’t become strong enough in the future to cause bigger problems for us later. That’s what Zelenskyy tried to tell us. And that’s what support for Ukraine buys us. It’s an investment in our own future security.
HopeSpringsEternal
Can anyone think of any serious leverage Pres. Zelenskyy has at this time to dictate terms for Peace?
European partners in political disarray with little military capacity to spare, war's going badly for UA, Putin never more popular, voter war fatigue across world building etc., especially in his own country that's fought so hard.
HopeSpringsEternal
Zelenskyy should know any 'resource' deal with the US to recoup its war $support will include many individuals connected to the US National Security Apparatus, and not simply private sector resource industry personnel.
itsonlyrocknroll
Joe Biden administration, unequivocally supported Ukraine, with weapons military aid etc.
President Trump questioned that policy.
JD Vance retort to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy "Just say thank you."
Is an appalling ill-judged humiliation on the Ukrainian people.
Would a Donald Trump administration supported Ukraine, anywhere close to the same support of Joe Biden Presidency?
No not for a moment.
Europe failed shamefully, every step of the way.
Please review this link again...
Full Video: Trump and Zelensky Get Into Shouting Match During Meeting | WSJ News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMNAos1hotI
It is a gross political humanitarian misjudgement, a diplomatic train wreck, Putin is a war criminal, Ukraine is still at war!
lincolnman
Surprise? Hardly...
Trump and Putin implemented their joint plan to undermine Zelensky...
And Rubio sat there fuming at being played too...
This is Trump 2.0 - The US joins the Axis of Evil...
TaiwanIsNotChina
Zelenskyy has nothing to apologize for for asking an honest question and has nothing to say thank you for from this administration which has done nothing helpful.
Blacklabel
then why did he come here?
to grandstand in front of our media?
HopeSpringsEternal
More than a fair chance Zelenskyy decides to step down very soon, as DJT relationship may be too damaged.
Nibek32
Wow, I just watched the video. Much worse than I expected.
Trump and Vance completely unraveled into temper tantrums when they realized they were exposed for not knowing historical context of the situation in Ukraine.
Such an embarrassing moment for America!
itsonlyrocknroll
There is no justification for any scenario for peace at any cost.
President Putin dictatorship rips Ukrainian sovereign territory away from its people.
That could I suggest would embolden the Government of China to blockade Taiwan, in preparation for a invasion.
Putin's atrocity, acts of brutal barbarity, all simply dispelled, melt away in a shamefully corrupt deal for peace?
I would rather take my chances in confronting despot Putin with my trusty pitch fork.
Remember, we cannot pretend our governments leadership is not complicit in standing by in a coma of appeasement.
HopeSpringsEternal
Thought the meeting was going well and civil until JD Vance escalated matters and was accusatory.
Zelenskyy had thanked the US for their support earlier on, s JD Vance did slightly mischaracterize Zelenskyy as not being thankful. Clearly these two are not fans.
Zelenskyy also had to speak English, not easy under such pressure in public etc.
Unfortunate for Ukraine, let's see what happens next, expect it will be resolved, resource deal signed etc.
WiseOneIn Kansai
Credit to Zelenskyy for having to deal with the current clowns in the White House.
Trump and JD are such an embarrassment to the American people. They are driving the country deeper into the hole of absurdity!!
Azzprin
Pootin's man in the white house causing trouble again.
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What Trump is doing to USA, why would anyone think he would be able to do anything about Ukraine war.
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The way Trump was going on in the WH in front of the press, he seems to be unstable.
What will he do next ?
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Failing memory, is it a sign of mental failing ?
wallace
Trump and Vance should not have behaved the way they did, like attack dogs let loose.
HopeSpringsEternal
Trump Vance view? Absurd to fight an unwinnable war, but somehow Zelenskyy believes Ukraine can win, even with such terrible losses and continued destruction.
That's a very fundamental disagreement, so it now seems very likely Zelenskyy might have to step down.
Underworld
HopeSpringsEternal
Not a proxy war. It's not that he is opposed to the war, he just thinks that Putin is OK and that Ukraine should surrender.
After this debacle, he be lucky to keep his seat.
Silvafan
This whole press conference was a set-up to put on a show for the MAG base and to show fealty to Putin as promised during their secret meeting with Putin in Saudi Arabia.
I have never seen a VP highjack a meeting and start a confrontation at the beginning unless they had the blessing of the president. It was deliberate and Trump planned it. Luckily, the criminal-in-chief cannot help hisself. He said, "it makes for good TV."
It is what Putin needs to broadcast on Russian TV. The manchurian candidate doing what he does best for his oligarch friends. Now, it is Musk's turn to show his fealty, next!
itsonlyrocknroll
Donald trump is not a clown, or the any number of derogatory, insults.
President Trump quite rightly and quite convincingly 5th November 2024 elected to govern.
Trump/Vance promised pleaded change.
Change is unmistakable.
Joe Biden/Harris failed outright, law and order, immigration, a DEI hailstorm, unchecked government spending.
Kamala Harris campaign a blinkered tin eared tabesty for anything resemblance policy for social justice.
However here the rub, Donald Trump, Vance, Musk were given dealt a severe reminder.
All have a seriously dysfunctional political diplomatic deficit
Not missed on Putin or Xi Jinping
Simon Foston
HopeSpringsEternalToday 12:40 pm JST
Why, is that what they're saying in Ukraine? Or is it being fed to the MAGA echo chamber by the FSB and pro-Kremlin online troll farms?
Great Bird
That was all Vance... Ok, some Zelensky.
Trump was mostly happy about rare earth, or "raw" earth as he seems to call it, talking about Biden, and throwing out inflated numbers. Until Vance gave him the cue that it is as time to attack.
Zelensky sure doesn't hold back though. No playing nice. Could let the "novel idea" of diplomacy pass, but no, he is focused on his mission, making his points. Putin can't be trusted, and of course he's right.
Biggest mistake though was not going in a big "thank you" speech after it was demanded. A nice long winded thank you to Biden there would have been perfect.